I picture this Starfury launching from one of three docking bays in the Babylon 5 forward hangar
https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/babylon5/images/2/2b/Heavy_Fury_1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090430213832

I picture these three planes in one giant hangar
https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-35a99f5e4b0b258e92258f3f3428a219

That strikes me as a hangar, but I dun care which term or even if they're swapped

Doing this avoids all of the fighter pilots having to constantly give their operational status in the middle of the battle.

Q: Why don't their systems handle that for them? When I play an online game my computer tells me my party members health bars and spell statuses including effects and duration in addition to enemy spells and effects - no need for them to take the time to inform me.

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This is a tough act to follow

yep!

Regarding when to publish, for a first ever book, I highly recommend waiting until at least the 2nd is written. There'll be things in the first you'll decide to change by the time you've written the second. Little plot-related things in a book 2 will undo a book 1.

Also having smaller gaps in series is good for bridging readers. It's often I see a copy of book 1 sell, then shortly after, sales on books 2 & 3. This is good because books 1, 2, 3 centre around the same half dozen characters ([J e n n a] doesn't even get a mention in them. Books 4, 5, 6 revolve around another half dozen characters, culminating in Victorious, so I'll release those relatively close to each other. Lorraine takes over in Books 7 and 8, so I'll release up to 9 together and advance her supporting cast to that culminating plot.

I'll always be fresh on a reader's mind... if he liked 1-3 then a few years go by and he sees 4, he won't have to wait long before 5 comes out then 6=satisfaction/conclusion.

Unlike Frederick Pohl, one of whose series I'm still waiting on the conclusion of. (He dies 23 years after writing it but even if he did write it with a 10 year gap, I know I'd have read the last page i na bookstore looking for the words "The End". If I saw "To be continued" I'd gently put the book down and walk away).

Hungry readers gotta be fed!

No... not a huge fan... but it doesn't ruin the story - just a chapter or two where I don't know who everyone is. No biggie

1. When I see an expression like "This scene needs X characters" I always ask myself "All at once?".

One trick in wrestling that's so famous people don't even see it happening under their noses is "spooling in wrestlers during the match". Four people are in the ring. Some guy #5 wants to be in the match but that's too many people for the choreography. A member of the original four will take a hit and fall off the ring apron. He will proceed to lie on the floor while #5 interacts - it's still a 4-man fight until someone gets eliminated (usually #5) and then the guy on the floor will rejoin the match.

Another trick wrestling uses is to break the unneeded opponents away into a simple brawl at the side of the ring while the main participants continue the match. You (the choreographer) may add as many extras to the minibrawl as you like. It doesn't matter what's going on down there - only matters that punches are being thrown and some combat occurs. The voice announcers will not discuss the brawl until some winner emerges and rejoins the main event.

2. I've learned over time that I can only take three new names per chapter. After that it's just so&so, son of so&so. This averages across chapters, so if chapter one contains 9 names, I should have them all straight by chapter three. You can safely exceed this limit. Return of the Jedi did in its final battle. For me it was just so&so in an XWing and so&so in another XWing. I don't think Lucas cares if I can't name the 3rd guy on the left five minutes after watching the movie.

3. I've heard the dog-fighting complaint before, but it's the future. Fighter craft can still chase each other. Sure they don't need to "bank" as they turn, but they can still turn. And they can try to get "uplight" of each other so one side a quarter second behind due to the speed of light. The guy who's behind is gonna have a harder time scoring hits.

In the VQ stories, Firestarter is in a ship that is braking in space, and a reviewer commented that ships couldn't really brake in space. This is true for "current" ships - they just plow into the atmosphere as full speed, but the Enterprise had to problem coming to a dead stop.

Net point: If you deem your ships will maneuver for tactical advantage, just go ahead and do it. Maybe just don't call it "dog-fighting" so people don't get confused.

Everything Monsieur Hamler says and more.

Don't hold back with my stuff. Nothing you can say will be worse than what the market has already said. Bring me all of your hate. I love it.

You're on fire

I am not supposed to describe my character AT ALL ...
I like to set the stage and let readers know through facial expressions, posture, etc. how the character is feeling.

This is interesting. We had a parallel discussion in another group, and here are my take-aways from it.

1) I don't overly need a description of the POV character beyond gender and eccentricities. Shakespeare never described Juliette, yet she's framed in my head as a certain look. She's framed in your head with a slightly different (but no doubt similar) look. If a thousand people had to render her under  a paint brush you'd get a thousand variations, each personalized to that reader.

(Okay, R&J was a bad example because it's a play but I've often wondered how other people visualize them. I've never been able to mentally match them with the various film depictions through the years - they've always felt "off" to me. I also concede that trendy writers (JK Rowlings) have had great success describing their characters into the minutae)

2) I don't need the POV character's facial expression. If it's there, okay. If it's not, I'll assign one mentally. You're better off if I'm assigning it because I'll always assign the most favourable expression. If I'm doing this, I can ease into the POV character like it's a second skin. If it's there too much, it's a little intrusive - I'd want the story to keep rolling rather than the writer catch me up on what I'm supposed to be feeling for the MC.

Here's an excerpt from South of the Border, West of the Sun:

As soon as I saw her, everything around me froze. A lump of air forced its way up from my chest to my throat. Shimamoto, I thought. I drove past her to check her out in the rearview mirror, but her face was hidden in the crowd. I slammed on my brakes, getting an earful of horn from the car behind me.
Murakami, Haruki. South of the Border, West of the Sun: A Novel (Vintage International) (p. 201). Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

Now, let's stomp all over it with what the writer (pretend that's me) wants the reader to feel:

Kdot makes a mess of this wrote:

As soon as I saw her, my eyes lit up and my eyebrows raised. Shimamoto, I thought, grinning. I drove past her to check her out in the rearview mirror, but her face was hidden in the crowd. I narrowed my eyes to get a better look. No luck. My face fell. I slammed on my brakes, getting an earful of horn from the car behind me. Beads of sweat trickled down my face.

If you compare these, you'll see my inserts do little to advance the story. If anything, "grinning" spoils the reader experience for at least the portion of the market who would have been frowning.

So my advice is: when you go to make an expression on the POV character, ask yourself "Am I doing this because it's part of the story or because I need to tell the reader how to feel?"

Disclaimer: Ignore everything I just said and just tell your story the way you see fit.

Norm d'Plume wrote:

I'm trying to decide if the guards in my book should use
1) discrete earpieces with mics on their sleeves (like the Secret Service)
2) visible headsets (e.g., a bluetooth-style earpiece/mic), or
3) a wisewatch with 2-way audio-visual communication.

These guards all wear uniforms and/or armor, so it's always obvious who they are, essentially eliminating the need for a discrete option. Wisewatches are ubiquitous in my galaxy for communication, so I'm inclined to use them, except an earpiece or headset is easier to hear through in a loud setting, and limits who can hear what is said.

I'm not sure it makes a difference as long as its consistent and matches surrounding technology. If Joseph wears a wisewatch, it's best if the guards do too, even if they typically choose to use their private channels / ear piece.

Re consistency: Consider Star Wars (Clone wars?) where the droids can't hear each other over sounds of battle. It would have been awkward for the droids to switch to internal radio because viewers would ask why R2 and 3PO didn't have internal radio. As painful as it was, they toughed it out with consistency over logic (Not 100% sure they won, but they sure have less explaining to do - as a writer, I'd just have not written my cast into such a predicament).

Hope this helps

-K

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I should talk, but maybe considering changing your title?  "Being Fifteen" isn't as magnetic as "Naked at Fifteen," "Guilty at Fifteen," "Meeting Godzilla at Fifteen."  Heck, even "Condescending at Fifteen," which might fit the best.

"Fifteen Years and Fifteen Locks"

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(1,528 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

Why ouch?

Norm d'Plume wrote:

I finally saw Rogue One on Netflix. I lost count of the number of planets/stations in the first 15 minutes of the film (5 or 6, I think). Some of the casting/characters were excellent. Loved the blind Jedi. The CGI of Tarkin was meh. For some reason, Vader's costume seemed off as well. I'd give it 3 stars; less if it didn't have all of the familiar Star Wars elements going for it.

I read somewhere the series was north of 400 named places (between cities / planets / stars). If you recited all those names back-to-back at 1-second intervals, you could make a 3 hour feature film.

Norm d'Plume wrote:

According to the Funeral Fund Blog: There is no minimum safe depth at which a body must be interred. The depth of an in-ground burial can vary from 1.5 to 12 feet, sometimes even deeper. Individual jurisdictions specify their own minimum depths, but most are nowhere near six feet. The origin of the idiom “Six feet under”.

I went with a meter.

Went with 3m (10 feet?) for Venus due to heavy flooding. Who wants aunt Irma showing back up for the family reunion. Had no idea 1,5 feet was even feasible. Must be a heavy shale region to support that.

I think there's a typo. They bury her only 50cm deep? The body will resurface

"Exile" makes me think of "banishment" or even "self-banishment"

Sword of Rhiannon makes me expect a story about a sword. Meanwhile the sword is a small fraction of the story (if we shall measure the story by % of paragraphs for which the weapon is a thematic agent and not merely a tool to accomplish some greater element). Then again, I recall reading Sword of Shannara or some such and there was barely even a sword in it and they spent the entire book looking for it.

I think the nude was the best epithet you have among available options.

Maybe you'll surprise me with a better one before you sign off on the galleys

fyi: Your MC is too flawed to qualify for the Mary Sue title

I did a lot of thinking on the battle these past few weeks... turning it this way and that. I made some charts. Erased them. Made more, erased them too - nothing quite captured my thoughts, so I'll try to explain.

I think I counted 5 occurrences of the classic "here's the cavalry in the nick of time" in a two-chapter span (Circa where the goblins show up). Knowing what I read about how she gathered up allies in the past 10 or so chapters I realized the pattern after the 2nd occurrence. It creates a vibe of "Rhiannon can't lose because there's always going to be somebody there to rescue her."

Ack! New danger! - Phew, someone showed up to solve it
Oh no-- another problem! Oh wait, that's solved too.

Might I suggest you have Rhiannon more actively aware of her allies motions through the birds and reserve the "surprise cavalry" for only the last entrance? If Ellsbeth could also talk to the birds you could give her the role of brilliant tactician.

An alternative (and this sounds like too much work) is to have her link up with her allies and form a larger allied force. Except the one you'd really (really) want to be the group that saves the day in the nick of time.

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Also you are missing a Rosencrantz and a Guildenstern who will be important to the MC but will find a way to die yet the MC is too caught up in the events to mourn / care / plot-around. I recommend Ellsbeth for one. And you might introduce a shield bearer that MC likes, but gets taken out by a random arrow.

That was Garth in Elf Queen of Shannara or the father-son pair in 300 (I forget their names). These characters imprint on the reader but are not MCs (Ok technically Garth was) so they can die at the 50% mark and on and it's understood by the reader that's why they're there. You could also get rid of an MC. It seems painful, but hey... Tasha Yar... Obiwan... the list goes on.

Lacking these two, Rhiannon enters the largest battle in her history and comes out with 100% of her close circle intact. Yes, we lost a lot of nameless characters, and we lost civilians, and yes those losses affect the MC. But they don't affect the reader, and they don't build pathos.

So you can see in in other writing, let me point out "Alan" who dies in the spaceship Laurie blew up. I would venture it is not possible to generate pathos for him (or for her) because he's only a name. To elicit even a note of sadness, he must do much more to imprint on the reader (talk about his dreams? Wife/kids? Rescue the MC?) then still manage to die.

Note: I have taken it for granted you want the reader to feel loss as a result of this battle.

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Returning to the battle, amalgamating forces would logically shorten the fight, which is probably the opposite from what you intended, but it could (with a lot of work) be accounted for. If you put Seidel's main town on a hill and give him surface-to-air attacks, he should be able to hold his ground a little better and make MC have to spend a few pages in siege. Storming and breaking walls would more than gobble up the page difference, plus it's a change of pace from the flat-land melées that dominate the current scenes.

The MC enjoys too much air superiority (flora/fauna/sparrows/etc, harpies, dragons). This isn’t an equally matched war... it’s US vs Iraq where the good guys can just sit in the air all day. You should give Seidel the dirigible flotilla and the flaming ballistas. Make it so the good guys can’t envelop/suffocate him.

(Also you have two dragon characters but only seem to need one. Also, you need more named deaths. *wink*)

I do like the relative simplicity of the battles (in terms of relatively flat terrain and no zaniness such as turn-coats or undead-ninja-assassins). No Legolas - that’s a bonus. Just two armies coming together in a bloodbath. Don’t lose that if you take any of these suggestions.

As usual, YMMV

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amy s wrote:

K, can you put up the mental K W a N scene where she is in two other heads at the same time during a stressful moment?

Unfortunately it's long been expunged from here and can't repost or people will ignore the messages "do not review" and review it anyway and I hate wasting people's time.

I copied a backup to:
https://www.arshistoria.com/content?vie … &id=30

I vote: Forget the past and dive right in.

You know how Hamlet starts?

Shakespeare wrote:

Ghost: I've been murdered. Avenge me!

About the halfway point in the tale for the entire story to come out.

Have you seen Iron Fist's series yet? (This question is not as random as it seems)