Everything Monsieur Hamler says and more.
Don't hold back with my stuff. Nothing you can say will be worse than what the market has already said. Bring me all of your hate. I love it.
Everything Monsieur Hamler says and more.
Don't hold back with my stuff. Nothing you can say will be worse than what the market has already said. Bring me all of your hate. I love it.
You're on fire
I am not supposed to describe my character AT ALL ...
I like to set the stage and let readers know through facial expressions, posture, etc. how the character is feeling.
This is interesting. We had a parallel discussion in another group, and here are my take-aways from it.
1) I don't overly need a description of the POV character beyond gender and eccentricities. Shakespeare never described Juliette, yet she's framed in my head as a certain look. She's framed in your head with a slightly different (but no doubt similar) look. If a thousand people had to render her under a paint brush you'd get a thousand variations, each personalized to that reader.
(Okay, R&J was a bad example because it's a play but I've often wondered how other people visualize them. I've never been able to mentally match them with the various film depictions through the years - they've always felt "off" to me. I also concede that trendy writers (JK Rowlings) have had great success describing their characters into the minutae)
2) I don't need the POV character's facial expression. If it's there, okay. If it's not, I'll assign one mentally. You're better off if I'm assigning it because I'll always assign the most favourable expression. If I'm doing this, I can ease into the POV character like it's a second skin. If it's there too much, it's a little intrusive - I'd want the story to keep rolling rather than the writer catch me up on what I'm supposed to be feeling for the MC.
Here's an excerpt from South of the Border, West of the Sun:
As soon as I saw her, everything around me froze. A lump of air forced its way up from my chest to my throat. Shimamoto, I thought. I drove past her to check her out in the rearview mirror, but her face was hidden in the crowd. I slammed on my brakes, getting an earful of horn from the car behind me.
Murakami, Haruki. South of the Border, West of the Sun: A Novel (Vintage International) (p. 201). Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
Now, let's stomp all over it with what the writer (pretend that's me) wants the reader to feel:
As soon as I saw her, my eyes lit up and my eyebrows raised. Shimamoto, I thought, grinning. I drove past her to check her out in the rearview mirror, but her face was hidden in the crowd. I narrowed my eyes to get a better look. No luck. My face fell. I slammed on my brakes, getting an earful of horn from the car behind me. Beads of sweat trickled down my face.
If you compare these, you'll see my inserts do little to advance the story. If anything, "grinning" spoils the reader experience for at least the portion of the market who would have been frowning.
So my advice is: when you go to make an expression on the POV character, ask yourself "Am I doing this because it's part of the story or because I need to tell the reader how to feel?"
Disclaimer: Ignore everything I just said and just tell your story the way you see fit.
I'm trying to decide if the guards in my book should use
1) discrete earpieces with mics on their sleeves (like the Secret Service)
2) visible headsets (e.g., a bluetooth-style earpiece/mic), or
3) a wisewatch with 2-way audio-visual communication.These guards all wear uniforms and/or armor, so it's always obvious who they are, essentially eliminating the need for a discrete option. Wisewatches are ubiquitous in my galaxy for communication, so I'm inclined to use them, except an earpiece or headset is easier to hear through in a loud setting, and limits who can hear what is said.
I'm not sure it makes a difference as long as its consistent and matches surrounding technology. If Joseph wears a wisewatch, it's best if the guards do too, even if they typically choose to use their private channels / ear piece.
Re consistency: Consider Star Wars (Clone wars?) where the droids can't hear each other over sounds of battle. It would have been awkward for the droids to switch to internal radio because viewers would ask why R2 and 3PO didn't have internal radio. As painful as it was, they toughed it out with consistency over logic (Not 100% sure they won, but they sure have less explaining to do - as a writer, I'd just have not written my cast into such a predicament).
Hope this helps
-K
I should talk, but maybe considering changing your title? "Being Fifteen" isn't as magnetic as "Naked at Fifteen," "Guilty at Fifteen," "Meeting Godzilla at Fifteen." Heck, even "Condescending at Fifteen," which might fit the best.
"Fifteen Years and Fifteen Locks"
Why ouch?
I finally saw Rogue One on Netflix. I lost count of the number of planets/stations in the first 15 minutes of the film (5 or 6, I think). Some of the casting/characters were excellent. Loved the blind Jedi. The CGI of Tarkin was meh. For some reason, Vader's costume seemed off as well. I'd give it 3 stars; less if it didn't have all of the familiar Star Wars elements going for it.
I read somewhere the series was north of 400 named places (between cities / planets / stars). If you recited all those names back-to-back at 1-second intervals, you could make a 3 hour feature film.
According to the Funeral Fund Blog: There is no minimum safe depth at which a body must be interred. The depth of an in-ground burial can vary from 1.5 to 12 feet, sometimes even deeper. Individual jurisdictions specify their own minimum depths, but most are nowhere near six feet. The origin of the idiom “Six feet under”.
I went with a meter.
Went with 3m (10 feet?) for Venus due to heavy flooding. Who wants aunt Irma showing back up for the family reunion. Had no idea 1,5 feet was even feasible. Must be a heavy shale region to support that.
I think there's a typo. They bury her only 50cm deep? The body will resurface
"Exile" makes me think of "banishment" or even "self-banishment"
Sword of Rhiannon makes me expect a story about a sword. Meanwhile the sword is a small fraction of the story (if we shall measure the story by % of paragraphs for which the weapon is a thematic agent and not merely a tool to accomplish some greater element). Then again, I recall reading Sword of Shannara or some such and there was barely even a sword in it and they spent the entire book looking for it.
I think the nude was the best epithet you have among available options.
Maybe you'll surprise me with a better one before you sign off on the galleys
fyi: Your MC is too flawed to qualify for the Mary Sue title
I did a lot of thinking on the battle these past few weeks... turning it this way and that. I made some charts. Erased them. Made more, erased them too - nothing quite captured my thoughts, so I'll try to explain.
I think I counted 5 occurrences of the classic "here's the cavalry in the nick of time" in a two-chapter span (Circa where the goblins show up). Knowing what I read about how she gathered up allies in the past 10 or so chapters I realized the pattern after the 2nd occurrence. It creates a vibe of "Rhiannon can't lose because there's always going to be somebody there to rescue her."
Ack! New danger! - Phew, someone showed up to solve it
Oh no-- another problem! Oh wait, that's solved too.
Might I suggest you have Rhiannon more actively aware of her allies motions through the birds and reserve the "surprise cavalry" for only the last entrance? If Ellsbeth could also talk to the birds you could give her the role of brilliant tactician.
An alternative (and this sounds like too much work) is to have her link up with her allies and form a larger allied force. Except the one you'd really (really) want to be the group that saves the day in the nick of time.
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Also you are missing a Rosencrantz and a Guildenstern who will be important to the MC but will find a way to die yet the MC is too caught up in the events to mourn / care / plot-around. I recommend Ellsbeth for one. And you might introduce a shield bearer that MC likes, but gets taken out by a random arrow.
That was Garth in Elf Queen of Shannara or the father-son pair in 300 (I forget their names). These characters imprint on the reader but are not MCs (Ok technically Garth was) so they can die at the 50% mark and on and it's understood by the reader that's why they're there. You could also get rid of an MC. It seems painful, but hey... Tasha Yar... Obiwan... the list goes on.
Lacking these two, Rhiannon enters the largest battle in her history and comes out with 100% of her close circle intact. Yes, we lost a lot of nameless characters, and we lost civilians, and yes those losses affect the MC. But they don't affect the reader, and they don't build pathos.
So you can see in in other writing, let me point out "Alan" who dies in the spaceship Laurie blew up. I would venture it is not possible to generate pathos for him (or for her) because he's only a name. To elicit even a note of sadness, he must do much more to imprint on the reader (talk about his dreams? Wife/kids? Rescue the MC?) then still manage to die.
Note: I have taken it for granted you want the reader to feel loss as a result of this battle.
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Returning to the battle, amalgamating forces would logically shorten the fight, which is probably the opposite from what you intended, but it could (with a lot of work) be accounted for. If you put Seidel's main town on a hill and give him surface-to-air attacks, he should be able to hold his ground a little better and make MC have to spend a few pages in siege. Storming and breaking walls would more than gobble up the page difference, plus it's a change of pace from the flat-land melées that dominate the current scenes.
The MC enjoys too much air superiority (flora/fauna/sparrows/etc, harpies, dragons). This isn’t an equally matched war... it’s US vs Iraq where the good guys can just sit in the air all day. You should give Seidel the dirigible flotilla and the flaming ballistas. Make it so the good guys can’t envelop/suffocate him.
(Also you have two dragon characters but only seem to need one. Also, you need more named deaths. *wink*)
I do like the relative simplicity of the battles (in terms of relatively flat terrain and no zaniness such as turn-coats or undead-ninja-assassins). No Legolas - that’s a bonus. Just two armies coming together in a bloodbath. Don’t lose that if you take any of these suggestions.
As usual, YMMV
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K, can you put up the mental K W a N scene where she is in two other heads at the same time during a stressful moment?
Unfortunately it's long been expunged from here and can't repost or people will ignore the messages "do not review" and review it anyway and I hate wasting people's time.
I copied a backup to:
https://www.arshistoria.com/content?vie … &id=30
I vote: Forget the past and dive right in.
You know how Hamlet starts?
Ghost: I've been murdered. Avenge me!
About the halfway point in the tale for the entire story to come out.
Have you seen Iron Fist's series yet? (This question is not as random as it seems)
Key word there "frequently"... and I refer to my original comment: if you're going to use this device, own it. Make sure it doesn't look like an accident.
[K w a n - C h r o n i c l e s] series (spelled this way because Google trolls the forums) books 1-3 the lead character tells the story in 1st person. Okay quite common. But you discover, after some time, that the narrator "I" is actually in the story rather than on our side of the wall such that the character is aware she is narrating. Things she may say aloud are often not intended for the other characters to process, but rather stated explicitly for the audience.
I've had a lot of readers tell me they couldn't get through it - too weird. Too unsettling. I had expected this reaction to some extent, but was surprised at how common it was.
This pernicious 4th wall... when Hamlet looks at us and cries to be or not to be... and proceeds to try to convince us his actions contain some modicum of moral fiber...
it's very powerful
intimate
energetic
Yes... "intimate" because it invites the reader to converse with the character. But some readers will find it jarring because they're kicked out from being the character and forced to become spectators. Your deep immersion readers won't like it when this happens. Your 3rd person readers won't mind.
I have a series where the main character is very much aware she is a character in a story. At times, she flirts directly with the reader, daring the one person who knows her true motivation to condemn her. At times she pretends to only be the character and traipses obediently as the plot would require. This series isn't really a "story"... it's more of an "experience"... and it establishes itself as being in this mode early on.
In your case, my observation is that a chapter 35 is rather late to suddenly bring in such elements. I recommend at least one before chapter 10 and maybe another in the late 20's. Make it so this doesn't stick out but is part of the tapestry.
This is a prop and must be stated before it appears. Who do you think you are? K?
I can totally get rid of a major character on a moment's notice without even so much as a goodbye. Foreshadowing is for weenies.
Re: Eyes go wide
I've been back and forth on these, even posted a question to the Premium forum about it. I finally decided that some actions are essentially automatic, such as eyes going wide when you're surprised by something. Ditto for eyebrows shooting to the hairline, eyes popping, etc. Imagine how weird it would read if I wrote Apollo popped his eyes.
Allow me to take an unusual stance. First, go re-read 10 paragraphs of your favourite chapter of Dune, then insert "...and Paul's eyes went wide".
Why don't we see this?
Essentially, the writer is treading on the story and says "Character X feels surprised".
One rule of story-telling they never tell you in school is "Don't tell the reader how to feel". That's what's happening here, and Herbert never does this. As such, the Dune story means many things to many people, and it's why there'll never be an accurate movie rendered of it (though the original comes reasonably close).
"Don't tell the reader how to feel"
I once had this yelled at me by a published writer many years ago. The particular example was fright. The lines went something like this (and I'm going from memory so bear with me).
Round 1 (basic)
John was walking home at sunset. He passed old McSweeny's yard and noticed the gate was open. Mr McSweeny's dog was unchained and could get to the street. John felt afraid. He turned and ran the other way.
Here, the writer was like "NO! Why is John afraid? Show me the elements of John that demonstrate fear, and let me decide if I'm afraid"
Round 2 (regular)
John was walking home. He eyed the fleeting rays of sun (a). The McSweeny's dog was always loose behind that flimsy chainlink fence (b). He stopped dead in his tracks (c). He traced the fence (d) to the far end of the yard. The gate was open! John felt his pulse quickening (e).
a. John considers sunlight important (eg, he considers night/darkness as something to avoid). Notice, John need not frown - the fact that he noticed the waning sunlight is sufficient to convey the writer's intent.
b. John regularly passes here, and John associates fences with safety
c. Dogs make John think about death
d. delaying the suspense
e. Telling part (No worries here. I do this all. the. time.) This is on par with eyes widening - the writer is basically pausing the story to give the reader clues on how they should be feeling. After all, an open gate is not relevant if the dog is really friendly.
Round 3 (Approaching Stephen King level)
John was walking home. He eyed the fleeting rays of sun. The McSweeny's dog was always loose behind that flimsy chainlink fence, and it growled deep in its throat as he walked by. John ignored it and carried on until he noticed the gate at the far end of the yard was ajar.
"That's not good," John said.
He turned and retraced his steps. Behind him, the sounds of paws on grass sounded like the dog was in flight (a). John quickened his pace. The skittering of claws on pavement suggested the dog had attained the open gate. John broke into a run. At the next house, he spotted an open screen door. He made for it, knowing he couldn't possibly outrun the dog.
Barely, too. He made it as he felt the dog's breath on his ankles, slamming the door behind him. The dog crashed against the glass with a thundering impact.
John paused to catch his breath while the dog regained its feet. It paced back two steps, and its eyes began to glow brilliant green as smoke pooled around its feet. And here, the glass of the screen door became warm to the touch...
a. Keeping the danger slightly off-camera
Is John scared? The story never says. To some readers, he's terrified. To other readers he's quite calm and merely trying to avoid getting bitten. We basically invite the reader to insert his own judgements on top of John's actions. This is what Herbert managed to do... and is a kind of ideal goal.
If you manage to reach this third tier, Apollo will seem suave to some readers, and surprised to others. Each reader will assign their favourite attributes to the character. He will be inherently personable because he will embody the ideals of each reader's experiences.
Vader lowered his weapon and said "Luke, I am your father."
Reader A: Vader is in entreaty. He wants to be recognized as a parent
Reader B: Vader is ashamed that his son is so weak. He's boasting that he's the father to try to get Luke to be better
Reader C: Vader is testing Luke... trying to draw him out to see what he knows.
Reader D: (is in Luke's head) Don't, Luke! It's a trrrraaaap!
now imagine:
Vader lowered his weapon and raised his arm, pleading. "Luke, I am your father."
Here, "pleading" is a slight POV crawl. As Reader B, I have to stop being the character and imagine the character as perceived by Luke. This bounces me into Luke's head for a split second. I've been forced to head-hop and there was no significant benefit.
Most important fact... what you've written is not a deal breaker. Even if you change nothing, you still have a good story. This is all nuance... and as I've said each time, I want to give each of you everything I know.
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oh dear
yeh... I have been slacking a bit
Ahoy! You done tweaking Dirtier than Dirt? Is it okay for me to proceed on it?