>>Therefore, what fits your story better? An ancient Antichrist or a recent one?
I'm not sure what you mean.

Connor is (supposedly) in hypostatic union with God (the Son) as is Jesus. In my story, the AC didn't exist prior to the birth of the little demon-spawn. In Connor's case, he'd be claiming to have been in hypostatic union with the Son since Connor's birth. Although his soul is ancient (Adam), that element of Connor's existence isn't revealed until the very end of book one (with Adam's identity revealed to Connor at the end of book 2). When he's attacked in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, it supposedly gives him access to the Son's "memories", which would include those of Jesus. Indeed, the whole time they're in the Holy Land, he'll seem to experience snippets of Jesus's life as the tour group moves from site to site (the same as he did in the first draft). Ostensibly, the reason he experiences these is because he's in union with the Son, who is in union with Christ.

Even as I wrote about Adam in the above paragraph, I realized that means Connor, who is physically just 14 years old, will claim to be the 2nd incarnation of God, in hypostatic union with the Son (for those past 14 years) and indirectly also with Christ, but Connor's soul once belonged to Adam. If that doesn't make your head spin, I don't know what will. :-)  Fortunately, he will have ceased pretending to be the 2nd incarnation around the latter half of book 2, and he'll learn about Adam at the climax of book 2.

Although Connor will remain supernatural, his (fake) role is rather like John the Baptist, preparing the world for the (second) coming of Christ. I love the solution of him being a second incarnation of the Lord, rather than a reincarnation. Seems like a minor difference, but it solves a lot of problems. And, technically, he won't claim to be Christ, so Matthew 24:23 shouldn't be an issue. It definitely will alter important scenes, though. For example, when Connor appears on the balcony at St. Peter's at the end to address the adoring crowds, they previously went nuts because they accepted he was Christ, especially when he told them they (those present) had achieved eternal life.

I wonder how much will break. :-)

Cool. I realized as I attempted to convert my existing writeup-in-progress to use a second incarnation (as opposed to a reincarnation) that I've eliminated most if not all discrepancies between the Bible and the story, eliminating any need to explain why discrepancies are happening. Since Connor as a second incarnation isn't mentioned in the Bible, there will be no discrepancies. All events in Revelation can unfold exactly as written in the Bible, at least until roughly the end of book 3. Christ will return in book 3 as prophesied. Connor will end up in the Lake of Fire, although he technically throws himself in. And all mortal sinners, Satan, his demons, etc. will end up there as well, teleported to other worlds of course, with no ability to return, meaning they're technically "in" the lake forever. Connor will be able to travel freely, though, since he ceased being the Antichrist when he burned up his first (corrupt) body in the lake, which also breaks him completely free of Satan since he'll no longer have the gene that enslaves him to dear old dad.

The new writeup is going to be much shorter, although it requires trashing all the work I did to have Augustine explain key parts of his holy vision as succinctly as I could, but it was still too complex anyway. Good riddance.

A key question is whether Connor as a potential second incarnation of God would make you more inclined to think he might be the AC than him being a potential returned Christ in a different body. Although most people didn't see the climax coming, MJ definitely did. In fact, she was the only person who figured it out without any clues from me. Elysse did too once they were on the plane back to Rome from the Holy Land.

Since Jesus warned of false Christs, Connor supposedly being Christ would, I think, make many Christians think of the AC, provided they remember Jesus's warning. Connor potentially being a second incarnation is sufficiently different, it might be less obvious that he might be the AC.

As I mentioned in a post some time ago, I'm seriously considering changing Connor from being "the Lord returning as a child instead of the man Jesus everyone expected" to "a second incarnation of the Lord in a different human being". This would allow me to say that the Bible's documented end times events involving the return of Jesus will all remain valid, but that Connor is a second incarnation in a final act of grace to bring as many people to God as possible before Christ's return. Connor's role would not be the forgiveness of sins since, in theory, Christ has that covered. Connor would simply bring people into the Catholic Church, where (corrupt) priests give invalid absolutions.

The down side of this approach is that, although Connor can "remember" things from Christ's life because they are both in hypostatic unions with the Lord, I'm not sure it's as compelling since Connor would be trying to remember Christ's past (a different human being), not Connor's own ancient past. The latter is a fairly common trope in stories involving reincarnation. So in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, where Connor seems to regain his memories of his past life but screws up as to which route through the Old City the original Christ took to his crucifixion, it seems a little more forgivable if he doesn't get it right since Connor isn't claiming he was there, although one would think he would get it right at the Holy Sepulcher since he's now fully aware of the presence of the Lord within him.

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Hi, Neil. Welcome back. Please have a look at an article I posted in this forum (pinned near or at the top) with important tips for getting the most number of reviews you can on this site. Unfortunately, one of the most important recommendations is not to post huge chapters. I suggested about 2500 words as a reasonable upper limit. I'm afraid yours is 6000 words.

The reason that's a problem is that you're asking people to give a lot of their time to review one person's work, someone with whom they don't have a long-term reviewing relationship. Everyone here is trying to keep up with many of their "regulars" in trading reviews. This piece is the equivalent of what most people would post as three chapters. I have these monsters too, but I post mine in 2-3 parts, e.g., chapters 1,2,3 online correspond to one chapter in my manuscript.

It's not your fault for not realizing/remembering that after years away, but it will greatly limit the number of reviews you can expect for this for the moment. Even if you get some reviews, they're unlikely to be as thorough as they might be if the chapter was much shorter. Some of us often do very detailed reviews of chapters, but it's often (though not always) with our long-term reviewers, and even then, it's rarely that long.

You can leave the one you have up to see how much useful feedback you can get for it, but I suggest gathering more points and then start reposting it in smaller parts. Anyone inclined to read your long version will probably be even more inclined to read something shorter (i.e., part of a chapter) to start and give more detailed feedback.

Fortunately, the site now makes it much easier to gather points more quickly. Generally, you need to review (roughly) 3 words of other people's work to post 1 word of your own (those are just average numbers). Until recently it was 5 to 1. Since you will almost certainly want more than 3 reciprocal reviewers over the long run reviewing your work, all you have to do is review the work of roughly 3 people to post one piece of your own (assuming the works, e.g., chapters, are all roughly the same size). In no time, you should have enough points to never have to worry about points again.

I'm sorry to see you got burned by this. FYI, I do volunteer user support here (I'm one of the other writers), so feel free to contact me if you have any questions or concerns. If you want the largest number of eyeballs on your questions, feel free to post them in this forum. Someone in a different time zone may answer it before I even see it. I'll send you a connection request so we can communicate privately whenever you like.

Dirk

Satan wrote the original in the late 4th century. He or Cardinal Song or one of their minions at the Vatican could easily be in a position to replace the original with a modern forgery (that's what document forgers are for). Although the latter wouldn't stand up to sophisticated scrutiny, it merely needs to look right. Since Cardinal Song is the one who brings it to the attention of the Council of Cardinals, he can claim he had it tested. Based on those test results, it's a late 4th century document with 4th century ink and with handwriting that is a perfect match for other documents known to have been written by Augustine, whereas it would simply be the latest forgery of the original containing "predictions" of future events that had already passed when Satan drafted the rewrite of the ancient original. They could even go a step further, which is to zombify the usual document expert (and the forger, for that matter) that the Vatican relies on for the aforementioned tests. Is Satan a sneaky devil, or what? :-)

Minor course correction.

Rather than there being two ancient letters, one from the hermit and the other from Bishop Augustine vouching for him, I'm going to have just one letter, supposedly written by Augustine, documenting his (Augustine's) private revelation (i.e., the vision) with many of the same details as I previously wrote them. Augustine, it seems, intended it to be found only after his death, so he addressed it to Rome, and left it for his assistant to eventually find. The assistant, a corporeal priest, sent the document unopened to Rome, where Satan, a corporeal cardinal and trusted member of the then pope's inner circle, receives it, shows it to the pope, and advises him that only a few trusted people should see it, discuss it, and report back to the pope as to what to do about it.

I'll then add a scene set at the beginning of the book of these trusted cardinals meeting and discussing it shortly after it is received, with Satan steering them toward recommending that the document be filed away for future "consideration" and that there be no copies of the document made, no mention of it to anyone else, no entries by the individual cardinals in their journals, and no other record of it whatsoever.

It then gets put away and eventually ends up in the Vatican Secret Archives, where it is conveniently found by Cardinal Song and one of his assistants (since Song is blind) over fifteen hundred years later. Song would have maneuvered himself into leading the ongoing Church effort to review and release Vatican archive records to the public. Satan could easily update the document several times during the 20th and early 21st century as he watches/steers events of the past century.

Of course, having the aforementioned scene of the ancient cardinals meeting and discussing the document will be impossible to make even remotely accurate for those times, so I'll have to settle for not getting anything too egregiously wrong. :-)

I probably won't even show the whole document in the book and simply have much of it discussed (both in the past and the present) by key characters + include carefully crafted quotes from the document to use as epigraphs at the tops of chapters, quoting Augustine. Each quote would, of course, be something Satan wrote, but with me (author of the novels) presenting it as quotes from Augustine, with no mention during the novel that the quotes are fake until the end of the book when De Rosa admits to Romano that the Augustinian document was part of the subterfuge.

Much simpler. And less like a data dump, although I'm still glad I wrote the two letters since I can use them to help steer the conversation and craft the quotes.

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Hi Alan. I'm very sorry to read about Di's passing. I had similar feelings when I lost my mother to cancer a few years ago. Sad that it eventually happened (it was expected) but also glad she was no longer suffering. I have her picture up around the house (my father's too), so they're never far from my thoughts.

May Di never stray far from yours.

My condolences to you and your family.
Dirk

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George FLC wrote:

The Liberal Way.


Your destiny is to create the ultimate proletarian society.
Long live the working class!

EDIT: I have similar wording from God in the previous draft of Act II (and from Michael the Archangel in my latest draft) when Joseph asks what kind of society he's supposed to create.

NEW: No successor to the Garden of Eden is complete unless everyone runs around naked.
That's one of Joseph's first design decisions. :-)

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Kdot wrote:

"Your destiny is to create Neo Eden."

Zzzz. :-)

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Huh?

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Michael said, "Your destiny is to create a new ultraliberal paradise across the stars called the Garden of Eden — Take Two."
Joseph scrunched up his nose. "Sounds like a movie set. How about ... the
Garden of Eden — Sans Pommes or maybe just the Garden Sans Pommes? The Ancient French adds a certain elegance, don't you think?"
"The garden without apples?" Michael considered. "I like it."

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I'm on the prowl for potential alternatives for Josephi-La.

Since the religion is called the Josephian Heresy, I'd prefer something that doesn't use his name for paradise. Shangri-La is still under copyright. And Eden is the name of the capital of New Bethlehem, so that precludes Eden, Eden II, Eden 2.0, etc. That leaves words like Paradise, Garden, Oasis, Utopia, Nirvana, etc., and their numbered variants. Most are probably overused in fiction. I'm leaning toward the following at present, although I can probably come up with ludicrous names using many of the aforementioned words as acronyms:


Michael said, "Your destiny is to create a new ultraliberal paradise across the stars called the
Galactic Advanced Refuge & Designated Ecological Nursery."
Joseph frowned. "What a crazy name."
Michael shrugged. "I was going for the acronym GARDEN."
"Ick to the name. Why don't you just called it the Garden 2.0? No acronym."
Michael considered that. "Very well. But you won’t just prevent the apocalypse. You will end all suffering everywhere."
Joseph’s mouth fell open. "Huh? How?"

Dirk

Interesting. MS Edge has the same timeout problem in the forums. On a hunch, though, I went through all of my Google Chrome settings to see if any of my choices might be interfering with the operation of the site/forums. Mostly it involved carving out exceptions for TNBW in a number of my strict settings (e.g., tracking, advertising, popups, etc.).

The problem appears to have gone away; I left my cursor in one of the forum posts for much of the evening, and wasn't logged out (yet). It usually logs me out in under an hour. Let's hope it stays gone. I'll update this if it reappears.

EDIT: Cool. Well over 12 hours sitting in this forum/thread, and I still haven't been kicked off the site. I can die happy now. tongue

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Another really nice ballad sung by a member from Celtic Thunder. It's about the first immigrant who went through Ellis Island. A fifteen-year-old girl from Ireland named Annie Moore. The song got her age wrong, though; she was actually seventeen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93-s5xD … hunderVEVO

And I also still get kicked off if I stay too long in the forums. Fyi, I don't believe this problem existed years ago because I've written long brainstorming posts since we cut over to this site. Back then it never happened. Not sure when it first started. I believe Kdot looked at some of the site cookies at one time and found some that may contribute to the timeouts. My memory is fuzzy on that, though. I'll try using Edge for a while to see if the problem is just with Chrome, then post an update here.

Thanks.
Dirk

Bill,
Deck 1 and Deck 3 both point at the same image.
Dirk

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You both had me digging through my reviews to be sure it wasn't me. :-)  My account still has a bug such that it doesn't show me all my past reviews without me jumping through hoops, but it looks like I'm caught up. Please let me know if that's not the case.

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Harry who? :-)

Hi Alan.

I'm very sorry to hear that Diana's life is coming to a close. Still, it's fair to say, we'd all kill for a caretaker like you when our time comes. I suspect she knows that too.

I'm sure everyone understands if your recips are a little slower than usual. Mine have been sluggish at best for some time.

Welcome back.
Dirk

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No worries. I've never been mistaken for pretty. And welcome back.

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If I wind up with 70-year-old memories, that'll mean I outlived most of my nearest male relatives. At that point, I'll throw myself a big going away party. Carpe diem! tongue

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Amazing Irish folksong about WW1 sung by Celtic Thunder: The Green Fields of France

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNkKrEN … nder-Topic

I still remember having to memorize the Canadian poem "In Flanders Fields" over fifty years ago for school.
You know you're older than dirt when you have memories over fifty years old. tongue

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Welcome to the site, Ironwolf. I had a quick look at your chapter. Please have a look at an article I posted in the Premium forum with tips on how to maximize the number of reviews you can receive. It's pinned near the top of the forum, so you can't miss it. One key piece of advice from that post is to always include the Premium group when posting any stories to the site. Most of the best reviewers aren't members of many other groups, if any, so they won't even see your chapter being posted unless you include Premium. Although posting to Premium requires you to use points, that means your reviewers will receive points for reviewing your chapter. Your reviewers need points to post their own work to Premium.

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I'm drowning in Canadian income taxes this weekend but will try to have a look at your story as soon as you post it to Premium. I don't need points (I have a huge stash), but unless you start reviewing and posting with points (in Premium), you'd be wasting your time here during your trial period. Points are fairly easy to accumulate, made even easier with a recent change to the points system. Generally, for every 1000 words you want to post, you need to review 3000 words (or 3 x 1000, if you prefer) to get enough points to post your work. To get the maximum benefit from this site long term, you'll need reciprocal relationships with other writers with whom you can trade reviews. In general, if you regularly trade reviews with three other writers, you'll probably earn enough points to keep posting. Most of us have at least five such relationships, so gathering points is easy.

The best writers, including some regularly published authors, tend to be the best reviewers too, but they usually stick to Premium. By reviewing their work (they need feedback too), you learn from them how they write, and when they reciprocate, you'll get the most experienced feedback available on this site. Try to use inline reviews instead of regular ones; they usually require a little more time to do, but are more useful to most writers than regular reviews. Giving and receiving reviews usually leads to those long-term relationships with other writers that you need to benefit from this site.

Feel free to post here with any questions you may have. You can also send me a connection request if you like, so we can use private messages. I do volunteer user support on the site to help get new members up to speed as quickly as possible, so I'm happy to answer whatever questions I can.

Have fun!
Dirk