Be afraid, Morag. Be very afraid! There are some with dark powers lurking about. :-)

Got em. Thanks, JR. I have to admit, this person is getting annoying.

Thanks,  Mitch.  She's gone, but will probably return. Bill had already closed a number of accounts belonging to her.

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To avoid derailing Whatta's (Mitch's) thread, I thought I'd respond to you here.

Instead of X days to play with the site, it could be done by counting the number of responses the person has received. If it's none, leave the account at premium until they get three responses (whether three responses to one posted work or to three works). If they never do, they'll disappear soon enough. Personally, I think it should simply be a month to try to system since, as you noted, not everyone dives in on day one. It's not like it's expensive for Sol to have a trial member in the system for longer than ten days.

I signed up for a Gemini Pro trial not long ago, and it runs for a year. Why force new/tentative members to rush this. People have lives.

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I see what you mean. Without clues It'd be hopeless. Best I could do would be to guess eagle for one of the two five-letter words, neither of which connects to anything else.

dagny wrote:

Dirk--
Name him anything. You'll probably have a nick for him, and that will be what he responds to.

You were right: Gandalf, KitKat, Sweet Pea, and Demon Spawn. :-)

I finally put a collar with a bell on the little phantom/teleporter. He used to be able to pop into our universe an inch behind me without making a sound.

Having seen enough cat videos in my time, it didn't surprise me a few weeks ago when Gandalf knocked over the new Christmas tree (assembled so I could verify the lights work), although he did it only minutes after I left the room. My boy is a quick study.

So, we secured the tree to two walls in the corner with picture hanging wire looped through a couple of hooks. One of the walls is only half-height (a "pony" wall?), and divides the entryway from the living room without blocking the view of either. It includes a flat "cap" for keys, wallet, gloves, etc. and serves as Gandalf's throne as he presides over the space.

This evening I hear him meowing from the living room, and when I check, he's on the cap, shaking the tree back and forth, trying to knock it down. That little stinker was doing it on purpose. I wish I had caught that on video. :-)

I can only imagine what he'll do to the decorations later this month.

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cross-o-saurus is excellent!
I also like cross-a-doodle as second choice (in lieu of crossadoodle).

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Anticross! tongue
I really like crossdoodle.

Picaword? Pickaword? Or other variants.
Guessaword? Etc.

Assuming the answer requires the user to guess or pick a word, check a thesaurus for other variants of those two words. Take your favourites, and append -aword, -aname, or some other relevant suffix to the end of it.

Or: Ask Gemini. :-)

Yes, although it was part of a prolonged chat that went into the weeds. Mine often answers the ways yours does.

God Uses Deception as a Judgment (Biblical Examples)
However, the Bible contains specific instances where God is depicted as the agent of deception against those who have already rejected the truth, often as a form of judgment. These passages are the foundation for the "ethically wrong" argument: 
Sending a Delusion: Paul writes that for those who refuse to love the truth, God will send them "a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false" (2 Thessalonians 2:11). 
Deceiving Prophets: God is described as deceiving prophets who lead Israel astray as a judgment on the people who sought them out (Ezekiel 14:9; 1 Kings 22:23). 
The Hardening of the Heart: God "hardened" Pharaoh's heart, preventing him from agreeing to release the Israelites. This is a form of judicial action that prevents an already-willful person from seeing or accepting the truth.

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was writing a prophecy during the Middle Ages and was trying to keep from being burned at the stake for heresy for suggesting

Or... an alternative view is: One expects the author of the verse to die for the truth, not fib a little to escape his doom

Isn't that exactly what John of Patmos did?

>> What? Just a warning? No, it's definite.

In the meeting in the year 430 after Rome receives the documents supposedly written by Augustine on his deathbed, the Last Challenge is described as being about corruption in the Church. Specifically, Satan is said to have claimed in the late first century that, by the End Times, the Church will be so corrupt that Christ will not find even one priest worthy of Heaven. That ruse is used by Satan because it supports the narrative that the Emissary is holy and has come to purge the Church of corruption. In reality, it allows Connor to purge the Church of his enemies (real priests still dedicated to God).

So, when Satan, who is in the meeting as a corporeal, discusses the Last Challenge, he explains to the others that, since God accepted the Last Challenge, there is no way the existing ending of Revelation can describe what will actually happen since it does not account for the events related to the challenge. In fact, it was the existing ending of Revelation that led Satan to issue the challenge. He adds that, had it been mentioned in Revelation, along with the likely outcome (God wins), Satan would never have issued the challenge. So, regardless of what John of Patmos wrote, Satan would have done something different to try to "change" the ending.

So, were John's ending "real", Satan would have invalidated it simply by issuing the Last Challenge (assuming God accepted). Although there is precedent in the Bible to change a "prophecy" (the people of Nineveh escaped destruction in the Book of Jonah), for now, I'm going to have Satan go with the argument that Revelation's ending is just a warning, so i don't need to justify how my ending could possibly change one of the biggest prophecies in the Bible. Technically, one could argue that Jonah's prophecy was also just a warning, so no prophecy was actually altered.

How about if the verse says "He'll come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven," and he returns as a boy (like my first draft)? He's still flesh, blood, and bone, which is what he was when he left. He's still God. He's just not yet an adult, which I believe is a requirement to satisfy some of the verses about his return, so the Second Coming might not begin until he grows up, floats up into the sky, and returns on a fluffy cloud with a host of angels.

Or, what if the author of your verse was writing a prophecy during the Middle Ages and was trying to keep from being burned at the stake for heresy for suggesting that he will return but not in this dimension? It would still be factual to write he will return. And since God never lies, the interpretation of that would be: God didn't lie. He spoke in riddles to confuse the "authorities." And if we get the interpretation wrong, that's our fault, not his. We're too limited to understand it all.

God's statement is factually correct. The Bible is full of verses that require careful interpretation to avoid misunderstanding their meaning. Revelation, itself, is drowning in figurative language that will never be understood with 100% certainty. Are those falsehoods? Satan is supposed to be brilliant. All he had to do was ask what that means. Being the arrogant s--t that he is, he assumed God intended to humiliate him rather than burn him. Even if Satan knew his fate might be a black hole, he at least has a chance to avoid that fate and end up ruling Earth. As opposed to being burned alive for eternity. If it were me, I'd go ahead with the challenge. The real reason it's not clearly spelled out is because I want to withhold that potential fate from the reader as a surprise for when it actually happens.

Notes r.e. the Last Challenge:

- There are actually two Last Challenges. The real one, which requires Connor to choose who to throw the dagger at, Christ or Satan. And the fake one, which supposedly involves the coming of the Emissary to purge the Church of corruption (in reality, to purge those who resist Connor), and create the Lambs of the Lord, which are youth priests and priestesses, who Connor would be able to manipulate more easily than adult priests.

- Why would Satan issue the Last Challenge? Because he's desperate to avoid burning for all eternity in the Lake of Fire. He has no choice. His plan is elaborate, including many contingencies in case things don't unfold as he expects. That includes insisting that if Christ wins the challenge, then both Satan AND Connor should be cast into the lake. Satan intends to make it almost impossible for Connor to throw the dagger at Satan.

- Why didn't John of Patmos mention the Last Challenge in Revelation since Satan does issue it? Because Satan only did so because he read Revelation (circa 100 CE) and saw he would burn forever. Had John written about it, including the likely ending (God wins), Satan would have had to come up with something else.

- Why would Satan believe he has a chance at winning the Last Challenge given that God is omniscient and accepted the challenge? Given that part of the stakes is that God, if he loses, has to return to the spirit realm and no one gets saved, Satan should reasonably expect to lose.

- Why would God agree to the Last Challenge? Because he wants Connor to come into existence and eventually become the Lesser King to rule and redeem the damned.

- God tells Satan there is a way for him to win the Last Challenge, although Satan will never realize that the answer is for him to demonstrate his (non-existent) love for Connor.
- God also tells Satan that if he issues the Last Challenge, regardless of whether he loses, Satan will not burn, which is true since his demise will have him on an asteroid spiraling into our central black hole. Instead, God tells him when Satan issued the challenge that he will in fact be given a kingdom of his own, whose size will be smaller than the smallest grain of sand in the universe. This is true since God is referring to the black hole. Satan interprets this potential outcome as figurative language for Satan being humiliated when God grants him a mere spec as a kingdom.
- And God tells him that He wants Connor (Satan's future son) to be the one to decide at whom to throw the supernatural dagger. Naturally, Satan jumps at this.

- The ending of Revelation (Satan et al are cast into the Lake of Fire) is merely a warning, not a certain outcome. In other words, change your ways, or this is what will happen to you. That's the other reason John didn't write about the challenge: Revelation is just a warning of what could happen, in this case of what could happen with no Last Challenge.

To be continued...

If he wanted. I suppose. Eden, in this case, is in a different dimension - still on Earth, but separate from the "fallen" part of our world. Gemini suggests that's a reasonable way to frame it since the geographic details given in the Bible about real-world rivers downstream from Eden are physically impossible in our dimension (those rivers don't have a common source).

Assuming Satan loses (what are the odds?), he and the rest of the demons will also end up in the "virtual" Lake of Fire, which consists of a burning pool somewhere in a cave in the Holy Land (the entrance to the lake), with a portal at the bottom, leading to the virtual LOF, including the Thousand Worlds (TW), the fallen Earth, and Sagittarius A*, the black hole at the center of the Milky Way.

Satan and co. will end up on an asteroid spiralling into the black hole. Most of the damned will end up on one of the TW, with varying degrees of harshness; you end up on a world commensurate with the gravity of your mortal sins (i.e., how much of a dick you were in life).

Connor also ends up in the LOF, but the portal brings him directly back to the fallen Earth of our dimension (e.g., just outside the cave with the burning pool, where he threw himself in). Like all the other damned, he can't go back through the portal and emerge in the cave, so he too, technically, is stuck forever in the virtual LOF, and fallen Earth becomes his base.

Remember Connor's background: He considers himself the son of Satan, which to a certain extent, he is; he was kidnapped by Satan and raised since infancy by him and his minions, indoctrinated into Satan's lies; and he's genetically bred with an overwhelming need to follow Satan, which he doesn't realize until the middle of book 2. All of that makes it plausible that he might throw the dagger at Christ.

The dagger was originally in Satan's possession. It was forged by God for Connor to wield, includes the word Antichristus engraved in the handle (i.e., it's clearly labelled for Connor), and it is delivered to Connor when he is stabbed with it at the Vatican.

If you believe that humans are the only sentient species in the universe made in God's image, then leaving Satan to rule it all is no big deal since everything is racing away from us anyway. God would be leaving Satan to rule the galaxy/universe, with no tech to get from star to star. The tech that Connor will eventually use to help him rule The Thousand Worlds won't exist if Satan wins. So really, he's just getting the Solar System.

God doesn't have to worry about the severity of the terms if Satan wins since Satan will never realize that he has to love Connor or at least pretend to in order to keep Connor from turning away from him.

God will leave Creation behind anyway, moving with those who are saved to Eden in a different dimension. Although the Earth will be renewed, it will be done for Connor to use as the heart of his kingdom and the seat of his throne.

The term grave sin is often used interchangeably with mortal sin, although a grave sin refers more to the act itself (e.g., murder), whereas a mortal sin is a grave sin/grave act done with full knowledge that it's wrong/serious but you did it anyway/deliberately.

Hi Tamsin. My apologies for not responding sooner. I'm still massaging things, but I think I simplified things enough for the chapter to work. Since Augustine's real-life views conflict with my story, I'll have Satan include in Augustine's cover letter to the pope that some of what Augustine saw in his supposed holy vision disagreed with his own well-known views, which gives me the flexibility to break a few rules. Of course, the reader learns at the end of book one that the holy vision documented by Augustine was actually written by Satan, so stuff doesn't have to happen as Satan suggested. That fixes most of it.

In book three, the reader learns that God the Father accepted Satan's challenge, including some harsh (totally heretical) consequences, because he knew Satan would be unable to truly corrupt Connor (indirectly, his son) into throwing the supernatural dagger, created by the Father, at Christ. Christ, naturally, could easily sidestep the dagger, but he agreed as part of the Last Challenge to stand still and accept whatever Connor decides to do. The only way Satan could win would be if he actually showed Connor that he loved him, which he doesn't. Even faking it doesn't occur him.

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I spent part of the evening farting around with Gemini, getting it to analyze my trilogy (themes, archetypes, biblical connections, etc.) and some back and forth on the series title. It didn't like "As Darkness Gathers" either. :-) It gave me a bunch of suggestions for alternate titles, all of which stunk. But the chat did lead me to "Savior of the Damned - An Apocalyptic Saga" which has a nice double meaning: In book one, Connor is the supposed Emissary of the Lord, come on behalf of God for one last attempt to turn people from evil and save them before the imminent Last Judgment. Of course, at the end of book 1, you learn he's really the Antichrist. Then at the end of book 3, he learns that he was always intended to rule the damned (those not saved) across The Thousand Worlds, punishment planets (part of the "virtual" Lake of Fire) of various levels of severity for different degrees of sin/evil (Hitler and Stalin will be neighbors, lol), and that Connor's real task, as the immortal Lesser King, is to lead them all to holiness. The more holy a population becomes, the more paradise-like their worlds will become as well. Naturally, there's much more to it.

EDIT: Just realized when I shortened the book one title to The Emissary that I forgot to check how often that title has been used (way too much). So, the book one title will have to go back to The Holy Emissary.

It's a 50-year-old living room wall unit, part of a teak set from my mother's estate. Most of it still looks brand new. It didn't fit in my living room, so it's in my office/cat palace. Now that the contractors are done , I can put my stuff back into it. It's the last room I need to clean up. Until next year. :-(

How about this? Don't forget to turn up your volume to hear the song with the video.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kji93qHFmNBrub5EA

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipP … jPgRNx5hsc
Click to play the video. Be sure to turn up your volume.

>>I’m pretty sure an AN/UYK-3 is the missing link between me and finally achieving some level of control around here.

Now that you mention it, some of those switches might be useful in trying to herd cats. Or trying to keep Gandalf from knocking over the Christmas tree or a scratching post at 2 AM.

Dirk

Impressive, but did you ever program one of these:
https://i.postimg.cc/cr9VC3Fv/worlds-oldest-computer.png

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