>>Or they're lulled to sleep and get a shock at the end. 'Connor's the AC?!?!'
Nobody would be surprised by that, would they? :-)

I read a bit about the Children's Crusade. Ugh! Many of them sold into slavery. The depravity of the human race knows no bounds, although slavery was a part of society long before that crusade (and still is). Converting your enemy through non-violent means sounds a little like what Pope Nnamani has in mind to retake the Vatican.

I had that age range in mind, although the whole idea of doing so really is just to further the plans of the Unholy Trinity: Connor takes over the Church, kicks out any uncooperative clergymen, and begins to pull together the "Lambs of the Lord" to do "Christ's bidding." Of course, since he bails on Satan halfway through book two, the Lambs never get off the ground.

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Yup. All great questions. Care to take a crack at the answers too? :-)
It would be interesting to feed Gemini one of my scenes and ask it how the scene made Gemini "feel". tongue

Some refinements of the story:

- the real Last Challenge, where Connor decides at whom to throw the dagger, Christ or Satan, remains unchanged
- the fake Last Challenge, which is a part of the conspiracy, is that Satan supposedly bet God that the Church would be so corrupt by the End Times that God would be unable to find even one priest worthy of Heaven
- the role of the Holy Emissary, according to the Augustine letter, is therefore to cleanse the Church of corruption before the Final Judgement, become the Last Vicar of Christ, replace the clergy with children (child priests & priestesses), and then dispatch them to every corner of Creation to deliver the Lord’s urgent final call for all to seek refuge from the coming storm in the sheltering arms of the Church, led by Connor
- ostensibly, the reason Christ picked a teenager as the Holy Emissary is that he wanted someone innocent and incorruptible to lead the child priests & priestesses (imagine Connor as innocent and incorruptible, lol); it nicely explains why Christ chose him, though
- the reason Satan and his minions supposedly want Connor either dead or a servant of evil is that the Holy Emissary would essentially guarantee that God will win the (fake) Last Challenge since child priests & priestesses are all (or mostly all) worthy of Heaven; it would totally blow Satan out of the water if it weren't all part of his plan
- the (revised) poison in the Antichrist's dagger is supposed to be one that turns the victim into a servant of evil, which is what Connor will supposedly be fighting throughout his Holy Land trip; I'll probably punt all of the complexity of initially withholding the dagger from Connor, then giving it to him because Romano is desperate, then Connor feels better but becomes megalomaniacal, then is cured at the Sea of Galilee; instead, Connor's descent into evil will be a gradual thing from the beginning of the trip onward until he's cured in the water
- the above ties together Connor's supposed role (Holy Emissary) with his secret role, and allows him to purge the Church of real priests and replace them with children, whom Satan wants Connor to corrupt because they're easier to lead (astray) than real priests
- with the added focus on children in later books, I think the target audience could expand to include younger readers too (down to at least age fourteen if not a bit younger), which is something I always wanted. It's why I used corporeals instead of demon-possessed humans as the Star Wars-like stormtroopers of the story (they can't hit the broad side of a barn, they exist to be shot, and no one living is actually "seen" to die during shootouts); the only rather gross part is that corporeals dissolve into nasty remains when the demons flee the corpses; they'll even have the ability to allow their faces to melt while running at their shooter to terrify them (whenever Detective Campagna does the shooting)
- since Connor is no longer pretending to be Christ, very little (nothing?) will happen in book one that contradicts the Bible, so no more need to explain any of that away (no alternate timelines or any equally dissatisfying complexity); and once the conspiracy is revealed, there's nothing to explain away anyway
- these changes nicely streamline key elements of the story and tie them together much better and more believably than in the first draft; yay!

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One thing we can definitely do is put together a template based on AI-style reviews and pin it to the Premium group's forum for people to reference if they're stuck for things to consider/include in a critique. I could have used one of those when I first started doing reviews. Even now, I sometimes struggle to find anything comprehensive to say for some of the more experienced authors here.

I'd volunteer to put a draft template together, but I've been struggling with exhaustion since my bout with COVID. Blood tests suggest my pancreas took a hit, although I'm not diabetic (yet).

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Hi Dagny.

Thanks for clarifying. You're not the only one who has used AI to help with reviews. If it wasn't for the potential copyright issue associated with the AIs keeping and reusing copies of our inputs, I think it would be a great way to augment our reviews (eg, do the inline stuff ourselves, then run it through an AI to see if it has anything useful to add to the closing comments). Our long-term members have the experience to know if the advice is useful before including it in a review.

I believe Sol has an AI capability for members of the other site, although I have yet to try it.

A new member expressed concern because one of the reviews they received was largely or totally generated by ChatGPT. Since we want members to read and review each other's work (i.e., a good old-fashioned reciprocal relationship), it defeats the purpose of the site if one person reads and does real reviews while the other simply copies and pastes the other writer's story into an AI to generate a review. The AI-generated ones are pretty obvious.

If you find yourself reviewing something that you think could benefit from a pass through an AI, feel free to suggest that to the person whose work you're reviewing. If you want to show them examples of AI prompts they could use to generate such a review, that's perfectly reasonable, and potentially helpful if the writer hasn't previously used an AI for that purpose. Copying and pasting samples of AI output (based on inputting a sample of your own writing) to show them what it can do is also perfectly reasonable.

But ... if you're going to run someone else's work through an AI and simply paste it into a review as if it were your own, that's not in keeping with the spirit or purpose of the site, and allows the reviewer to collect points without having done the work. Also, there's no guarantee that the AI you just used didn't keep/integrate a copy of that work to give to others as responses to future questions. And voila, you would have just violated the author's copyright.

Google's Gemini claims it doesn't keep copies, but we all know Google will take whatever data it can from anyone it can without adequately informing people when they start doing so. Or it's buried somewhere in forty pages of legalese when they update their terms of service (usually only after they get caught). And Google certainly does keep copies of your inputs, ostensibly only to help Google employees see inputs/outputs they need to improve the AI.

Also, trial members are trying to figure out if the site provides enough added value for them to pay the subscription fee and become a permanent member. If they wanted just the output of an AI, they could run that themselves for free.

Please feel free to add to this, especially if you disagree with me, although we know that never happens. :-)

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Have a nice time, Bill. Do you plan to do any bull riding? :-)
Please say hello to Pam for me.

Thanks
Dirk

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All it would take to fix everything that's wrong with the Earth is a monstrous asteroid. I'll allow your imaginations to fill in the blanks. :-)

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George FLC wrote:

We need to be good stewards with what's been given to us.

We're a bit late for that, don't you think? Try to find a piece of land, a river, a lake, a tree, a crop, an animal, a teabag(!), etc. that isn't contaminated by micro-plastics or other industrial pollutants.

Years ago, I thought about writing a story about some chemical/pollutant/GMO crop/etc. that causes all the men on Earth to become sterile. That eventually morphed into the faulty vaccine in Archangel Syndrome that brought civilization to its knees. Good thing too, as the world was running out of trees for toilet paper. A disaster of biblical proportions was narrowly averted thanks to Professor Elroy Winkley and his time travel equation: N=jc^2.

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https://www.amazon.com/chillgo-20000mAh … 7&th=1

smile

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That's what those of us north of the border pray for - colder weather. smile

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George FLC wrote:

I think we only hit 93 degrees, 34 C.

How was Canada Dirk?

It's been raining and cool to cold much of the past few weeks. And I'm glad it has been, otherwise hotter temperatures would make the new indoor paint off-gas more intensely.

Another change I plan to make to book one is that, rather than Connor getting sick without the weapon initially, then seemingly fine once he has it, then megalomaniacal until he's cured at Capernaum, it would be a lot simpler if it was a simple progression from normal to evil to cured. But, that seems rather similar to Frodo and the One Ring, where Frodo grows sicker and more paranoid the longer he wears it, until the volcano when he finally puts it on, until Gollum frees Frodo of it by biting off his finger. In my case, two of my characters (Moses and Antonio) snatch the dagger away.

Key differences between the two are:
- Frodo was clearly a protagonist right from the beginning
- Connor is the hidden antagonist

- The One Ring is a supernatural weapon imbued with Sauron's evil, actively trying to get back to its master
- The dagger is also a supernatural weapon, which in theory, is demonic and created by the Antichrist to stab Connor and introduce a poison that will turn him into a servant of evil, so it seems evil throughout the book
- You don't learn until the end that it was actually created by God the Father for Connor to decide the Last Challenge; thus it's a holy weapon

- The One Ring cannot safely be worn by others and must be destroyed, which can only be done at Mount Doom
- The dagger was supposedly imbued with a spiritual poison in the first draft (which I may change to a more flexible "demonic" poison); it's something people can safely touch (Father Romano, Father Bianchi, and Connor all do so), and they're reluctant to destroy it because they don't know the impact on Connor
- In reality, the dagger cannot be destroyed

- Frodo actually fell under the spell of the ring
- Connor faked falling under the dagger's spell

- Frodo is freed of the ring at Mount Doom but never fully cured
- Connor is "cured" at Capernaum by swallowing water from the Sea of Galilee

- The One Ring is very important to the plot as it's evil and would allow Sauron to take physical form if he gets it, turning Middle Earth to darkness
- The dagger is far less important in book one as it merely determines if Connor falls under the spell of evil; granted the role of the Holy Emissary will be played up as very important, but as an unknown character biblically speaking, the Holy Emissary could fall to darkness, and the Second Coming with all its trimmings would still occur
- even once it's known that the dagger is a holy weapon, it's still not nearly as important to the overall plot as the One Ring, although a dagger that can maim Christ would be a big deal to my target audience, but that would only happen at the end of book three assuming it ever did

- I'm sure there are other differences, but given all of the above, I think I'm safe to simplify/streamline mine; and if not, that's what do-overs are for :-)

Before:
He whittled the end of a fallen branch with the Antichrist’s demonic dagger, recently used by one of that tyrant’s minions to stab Connor. Its addictive poison still flowed through his veins and sickened him, like withdrawal from the fangs of a powerful addiction, whenever he strayed too far from the heinous weapon. There could be no doubt it sought to master him.

After:
He whittled the end of a fallen branch with the Antichrist’s dagger, which the youth had come by honestly enough – from a stab wound to his gut. With the weapon’s poisonous tentacles spreading insidiously throughout his body, seeking to enslave him to evil, and with no known cure, his only hope now lay in finding the source of the healing energy in these lands before time ran out.

The Gathering Darkness Saga or Tales of The Gathering Darkness - by far the best series titles so far (thanks for the push, Kdot), with only a few false hits on Amazon if you include the word saga/tales. I'd love to rename the first novel to "Child of Light" or similar to steer readers away from thinking the kid on the cover is someone dark, but Child of Light and its variants have been heavily used.

Other alternatives for the name of book one might be:

The Holy Emissary
The Coming of the Holy Emissary
Advent of the Holy Emissary - perhaps too close to the idea of the Advent of Christ
Emissary of [the] Light.

Based on the above, I still prefer Connor's title to be the Holy Emissary (to get that clear connection to God), making the title "The Coming of the Holy Emissary" still the best, IMO, albeit just for the first book, not the series.

One advantage of "Child of Light" is that the word "Child" is least suggestive of the Antichrist, unless you recently watched the Omen. :-)

>> "The Dark Coming of the Holy Emissary"
>> "The Coming of the Unholy Emissary"

Those titles would give away the twist at the end of book one. Connor needs to be viewed as a holy figure, and although he won't pretend to be Christ in the second draft, he needs to be someone on Earth who is viewed as being Christ's lieutenant, which the forged Augustine letter refers to as them being in "harmonious communion." That allows Connor to say and do things "on behalf of" Christ as if the thoughts and actions were being communicated by Him to Connor in real time.

Not sure what other series title would sound more thriller-ish, though. "Hunting the Holy Emissary" and titles like it don't work because the series title is greater than just Satan et al pretending to hunt him throughout book 1.

"Wrath of the Holy Emissary" perhaps? I really like that, but he's primarily supposed to be gathering up followers on behalf of Christ from all corners of the Earth, not meeting out punishment (although that'll be part of his performance).

Regardless, I think the series title should include a reference to the Holy Emissary since the series is primarily about him, and his image will be on the cover of book 1.

The Pope's most relevant title to this is the "Vicar of Christ".
Not a fan of Chronicles. If the other titles were used, I might.

Possible series titles at this point are:

The Coming of the Holy Emissary
He's Here!

I prefer the first title.

Connor's new prophesied title in the forged Augustine letter: The Holy Emissary.

Although I also liked the Holy One, the latter is one of a million titles for Christ and would cause too much confusion,
whereas an emissary is "a person sent on a special mission..." Sounds like our boy. :-) Also, his title has a double
meaning. Connor pretends to be the Holy Emissary in book 1, but in book 3, he actually becomes
the Holy Emissary but sent by God the Father to rule over all those worlds filled with grave sinners.

I could potentially call the series "The Coming of the Holy Emissary," "The Holy Emissary Cometh," or "He Cometh."
The latter is obviously intended to draw a comparison between Connor and Christ.

Any preferences? Go ahead, blow these titles out of the water. :-)

No sweat. I do a great job of blowing myself out of the water. Since the Lesser King isn't a title he adopts until late in book 3, I'll still have to call him something (The Lord's Shepherd or the Staff of Christ), and the book blurb mentions his title (one of the two at the left) and asks "Is Connor the prophesied Lord's Shepherd, and can a young orphan accomplish all that in the time remaining?" The forged letter from Augustine has a similar issue. I don't want the prophesy at the beginning focused on whether Connor is the Lesser King but rather on whether he is the Lord's Shepherd/Staff.

Back to the drawing board. The Advent title can be my fallback.
So close!

The Lord's Shepherd vs The Staff of Christ - FWIW, neither of those will be a book title, nor the series title, and there wouldn't be a lot of references to either; one of the ideas, though, was that Connor would refer to himself as the Lord's Shepherd as his "title" after capturing the Vatican, which would happen late in book 1. Somewhere early in book 2, he starts referring to himself as just the Shepherd, which is one of Christ's titles, without actually referring to himself as Christ.

The Lesser King hasn't been used (the closest is The Last of the Lesser Kings, published in 2012). I'm okay with the title bringing LOTR to mind. It's a totally different genre. I had a bunch of other potential names for the series (e.g., The Advent Trilogy or The Advent Chronicles above), but none I liked as much as The Lesser King since the latter title refers to Connor, not Satan nor a concept, and it creates a bit of intrigue (is Connor the Lesser King and why is he a king at all?).

Connor vs the AC - sounds a little too much like a low-budget action movie (e.g. Tarzan vs. the Hunters)
Another title I like is Stalked by the Antichrist and Hunted by the Antichrist.

I think I have a winner: The Lesser King as series title, and I'll find something else for the title of book 3. Since book one no longer has him attempt to seem like Christ returned as a boy, I don't need to hide that he isn't Christ.

Thanks for your suggestions, George.

Slight change of plans. I made the mistake of asking Gemini to critique the idea of Connor as the "Right Hand of God." It totally blew the idea out of the water. Lots of serious potential objections from Christian readers, who would almost certainly think of Christ as the "Right Hand of God." It seems much happier with "The Lord's Shepherd," and gave a whole bunch of reasons why that should be more palatable to my target audience. Connor could then transition from calling himself "The Lord's Shepherd" at the end of book 1 to just "The Shepherd" early in book two, which is most definitely him calling himself Christ.

I could call the series "Chronicles of the Lord's Shepherd." At least that title refers to Connor, even if only indirectly, rather than Satan. Although the "Lord's Shepherd" gets a ridiculous number of false hits on Amazon due to titles like "The Lord is my Shepherd," the Chronicles title is unique and only brings back a few false hits.

Still not a true fan of "The Advent Chronicles" (from my previous post), so I'm leaning toward Chronicles.

Yeah, my concern was that it may scare off secular readers who might otherwise give it a chance. I'm having trouble coming up with anything decent, though, that hasn't been used a million times. Lots of possibilities; all of them heavily used. So far, even Gemini has been a bust for suggestions. Satan's Last Stand puts the focus on the wrong character.

Admittedly, my original idea for the book cover image was someone's bare forearm and hand raising a glowing cross "like King Arthur raising Excalibur over the battlefield," which is the exact wording I use in the prologue when Connor fights the locusts. Got that image in my head from an old Return of the Jedi poster, where you only see a forearm and hand raising a lit lightsaber straight up. As long as that was the image, Satan's Last Stand wasn't too egregious as titles go, although it still focuses on the wrong character.

Once I decided to use an image of Connor like the one on my TNBW cover, where he looks like he could be either good or evil, I realized I needed a different name for the series, especially now that he's supposed to be the right hand of God. "The Coming of the Right Hand of God" seems rather long, although I could leave out the word Right. That would get it down to seven words. Out of curiosity, I looked on Amazon to see if anyone had the guts to name their book "The Coming," and there are two, though both 10+ years old, one from Joe Haldeman, an award-winning sci-fi author.

"The Advent Trilogy" or "The Advent Chronicles", perhaps? They're unused. That would make the titles "Advent - The Rise of Connor," "Advent - The War for Souls," and "Advent - The Lesser King."

I'm my write-up for this (the St. Augustine letter), Christ is doing two "symbolic" things: he wants to save as many people as possible, so he uses his right hand (Connor) to bring them into the Church, but on Judgment Day he'll use his left hand to sweep the wicked into the lake of fire. The right and left hands represent saving grace and punishment, respectively. This is why he is referred to in the Augustine letter as the Right Hand of God.  Technically, this is b.s. because Satan wrote that letter to pave the way for Connor to be accepted in that role.

333 is cute.

Since the Hand of God and the Right Hand of God have been used to death in book titles, I kicked around a few other names.

The Staff of Christ is probably out as a title for Connor himself. Within the story, I prefer to refer to Connor as the Right Hand of God. It's a loftier title for him. It's also more blasphemous for the AC and Satan to refer to him as that.

For the series title, I'm considering changing it from Satan's Last Stand to The Holy One. Satan's not the key character in this story, so I don't see naming the series after him. Surprisingly, The Holy One has only been used once as a series title (sci-fi), although it just came out (naturally). There are variations of the title that refer to Christ, but nothing easily confused with my series. Whatever I eventually settle on, it needs to be clear that the series is about Connor.

The first book cover will probably be almost identical to what's on my cover on this site. Combine that with the series title The Holy One, and it ought to create an immediate (lasting?) connection between Connor and The Holy One.

The first book title would remain The Rise of Connor.

Much as it would be nice to name the first book (or the trilogy) the Hand of God or perhaps the Right Hand of God (assuming I refer to Connor that way rather than the Staff of God), both of those names have been used a million times already. It would be great to be able to use one of those names as a title since it's a much more fitting name to use for someone as important as the Hand of God, assuming that's who Connor is. :-)

The Hand of God Cometh has never been used as a title.
Neither has Cometh the Hand of God.