Interesting. I can't fit expensive into the list based solely on the aforementioned article, even though I know you have the correct order.

Below is a link to a great article on adjective order in English.

https://www.gingersoftware.com/content/ … adjectives

Apparently, the correct order is:

Quantity or number
Quality or opinion
Size
Age
Shape
Color
Proper adjective (often nationality, other place of origin, or material)
Purpose or qualifier

If you get the above in the right order, no commas are required, except if you have two or more from the same category.
In other words, it's not correct to simply drop all commas between adjectives. Nor is it correct to use commas between all adjectives, which is what I've been doing.

There are numerous good examples in the article. Although most come naturally to native English speakers, not all cases are obvious.

Have fun!

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Chapter, I messaged Sol (our admin) on your behalf, although he does check the forums too. Also, check your private messages for my detailed response.

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Sol, I just created a test account for myself (Dirk B - Test) so I can understand how a basic account works (once my trial expires). The email the site sends out that requires the new member to confirm their email address references the obsolete support@thenextbigwriter.com email address in case the new member needs help with that step.

Also, when I clicked the link to confirm my email address (a different one than from my regular account), Google again intercepted my attempt to get to the site because of the security certificate mismatch - same issue as reported in one of my earlier posts on this page, but this time it's for the signup process, and with the incorrect support email address, anyone who runs into this certificate issue will probably abandon their attempt to sign up since it requires them to override Google's warning to get to a site they don't know.

Sorry to inundate you with these posts.
Dirk

PRIORITY: Very High. This one seems pretty serious when we're trying to sign up new users.

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Hi Chapter. It's a longstanding issue with the site (quite a few new members accidentally create multiple books). We thought we had it licked with just the tooltip, but perhaps we need to move the instructions right onto the Post Your Writing screen or use a second button with a popup as I described above.

Feel free to send me a connection request if you need assistance with how to bring them back together. Unfortunately, you will need to repost one of the two chapters into the other book (chapter b into the part a book, or chapter a into the part b book, depending on which of them you decide to keep up), then rename the book you don't want people to read with something appropriate in the book's name (e.g., append OBSOLETE to the name). Once you're done with all of the reviews you receive/received for the obsolete book, you can delete it entirely, but it will delete those reviews too. You can also renumber existing chapters in any book in case you need to make room for the second half of your initial chapter in the book you decide to keep up. Clear as mud? smile

Let me know if you need help.
Dirk

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Sol,

Unfortunately, a new member created two books today, where it should have been the first and second chapters of one book. This means that not every new member can be counted on to hover over the Create New Work button to discover/read the tooltip.

Is it possible to now move instructions for creating chapters directly onto the Post Your Writing screen? Preferably right below the Create New Work button in a color/font that stands out well enough to not be ignored when the big red Create New Work button draws much of the attention on that screen.

Or, create a second, huge, red button right next to the first one, label it Add A Chapter, and have it bring up a simple popup screen with the instructions of what to do if you want to add a new chapter to an existing book.

PRIORITY: Medium. Not as urgent as other problems on this page, but it still burns (some) new users. For now, I'd suggest we monitor for this to see how often it keeps coming up.

Thanks
Dirk

njc wrote:

...any more than you would say that someone suffering from back spasms "spasmed his back".

Good one. smile Romano's reaction to the aircraft engine exploding is clearly a shock, so it would be "his eyebrows shot up" rather than "he shot his eyebrows up."

Thanks, njc.

Thanks, Jack.

I was trying to avoid rewriting it as frowned since the above is really just one example of the kinds of things that come up all the time. I see "he knitted his brow" and "she furrowed her brow" quite a bit as alternatives to frowning, at least from writers on this site. Since I do use them to minimize repetition, I tend to think of frowning, furrowing one's brow, and kitting one's brow as almost interchangeable (there are some minor differences in terms of definition and usage, so I only use the ones appropriate to a given context).

Referring back to my discussion with Kdot, earlier: in a moment of shock for the POV character, one could write (this example is for the purpose of this discussion only, not something real):

a) he shot his eyebrows up (not good)
b) his eyebrows shot up (better but really only works when the action is involuntary)
c) he raised his eyebrows (imprecise without context since it doesn't reflect the speed at which the eyebrows went up)
d) his eyebrows to his hairline, which I could see using in an example like the one below:

When the aircraft engine exploded, Romano jumped in his seat, held down only by his safety belt, his eyebrows to (or at) his hairline. In this example, the words to/at his hairline also don't convey the speed at which the eyebrows went up; once again, context is necessary, which is fine since it's right there in the example sentence.

That being said, I probably wouldn't use alternative c for the example sentence since Romano merely raising his eyebrows seems to dampen just how frightening the event is (e.g., engine explodes, he jumps in his seat, he raises his eyebrows, then goes back to reading). Raising one's eyebrows in an emergency like this one is how Spock might react, but not an ordinary human, IMO).

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Sol, are you currently advertising the new-member contest? For example, on Booksie? Not to cannibalize your other site, but every paying member on this site adds to the number of posted works per day, keeps the scrolling sections of the home page moving well, and may help add even more paying members if people see we're back to a lively site. Hopefully, we can then counter the effect of those we lose through attrition on an ongoing basis.

There are no entries for the contest yet, but the New Books section of the home page has resumed scrolling somewhat.

Thanks
Dirk

Kdot Opined wrote:

"Laurie raised her eyebrows" would be my preferred approach.

Hmm. How about: Romano jumped in his seat, held down only by his safety belt, his eyebrows to (at?) his hairline.

That works for both his eyebrows shot to his hairline and him raising his eyebrows to his hairline. For the record, I wouldn't write either since eyebrows can't do that, but I'm pretty sure I do this with other movements that I see regularly, at least on this site (e.g., his eyes popped, his hair stood on end, his mouth fell open, etc.), most of which are cliches and should probably be purged anyway.

I'm considering a slight switch. The "common" name for corporeal demons could be meatbag, and the other names could be nicknames for them (grumpy, meltface, and maybe zombie). The Order of the Black Cassocks (De Rosa's secret team of Antichrist/demon hunters) would use those terms in addition to their common name, meatbag. Also, it occurred to me that characters like Nnamani would probably prefer a more formal term for them. Corporeal, perhaps?

Thoughts?

Does that mean, in the example of Romano's eyebrows shooting to his hairline, that you would have him shoot them up? That would be weird. I've seen plenty of examples of the alternative, though: His eyebrows shot up, regardless of whether the character is the POV character or not.

Another example from this evening, a character's jaw drops. Did he drop his jaw or did it drop in response to the shock he got? I can't recall any examples of the former (he dropped his jaw), but lots of examples of the latter (his jaw dropped), even when referring to the POV character.

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Sol, it looks like the timeout problem in the forums (where it kicks me out too soon) is still present. Fortunately, I remembered to copy what I had written to the clipboard, otherwise I would have lost a new post that I had been working on for almost an hour.

Is the bug fix for this still in progress?

PRIORITY: Medium, but really annoying! It's okay to get kicked out as long as the post goes in. The serious case is when writing a lengthy new topic (or just walking away from your computer for a while halfway through writing a new topic). In the latter cases, getting kicked out means there's no way to recover the new topic (not even with the browser's back button).

Thanks
Dirk

I have quite a few cases like those in the subject line that keep coming up in my writing and I'm curious how others deal with them.


Specifically, for the POV character, I could write:
1. Romano furrowed his brow, or
2. Romano's brow furrowed.

Note, I'm not concerned with the option of rewriting this to use a totally different word (e.g., "He frowned" might work, but that doesn't address what I'm asking about here.)

In the case of furrowed, I'm inclined to use version 1, above, since furrowing one's brow is an action that the POV character usually performs intentionally/voluntarily.

But if it's something very surprising (e.g., an aircraft engine exploding midflight), I might write "Romano's eyebrows shot to his hairline" since it's the result of something startling and involuntary, rather than "Romano shot his eyebrows to his hairline," which suggests to me he did it intentionally and voluntarily.


I think this works equally well for non-POV characters (assume we're still in Romano's POV):
1. "De Rosa widened his eyes" for cases where Romano knows De Rosa is doing it voluntarily (e.g., trying to see better in the dark).
2. "De Rosa's eyes widened" for something startling and involuntary.


I'm curious if other members handle these cases the same way I do here.


Thanks
Dirk

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Sol, my security software and Google are both complaining about the security certificate again. This happens when I click inside a site-generated email (specifically, the one sent out when I receive a new message from another member). I trimmed the url; let me know if you need it.

Suspicious page blocked for your protection
https://email2.booksie.com/ls/click?upn … zbJkoR-...
Your connection to this web page is not safe due to an unmatching security certificate.
This means that the certificate was issued for a different web address than the one it is being used for, and you run the risk of exposing your data by accessing this page.

I could have sworn this was fixed for a while, but MJ saw it too, so it's not specific to my machine only.

PRIORITY: Very High. Gives the impression that the site has serious bugs.

EDIT: This may have been fixed. I haven't seen either Google or my security software complain in about two weeks.

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Queen Aussie: I would ask that you free my humatronic brain from this vessel as soon as this mission is over. I find naked apes exceedingly violent, even more so than their turd-flinging hairy brethren.

I'd love to see Alexa talk like that. tongue

Just spent the whole day applying edits from a stack of 30+ reviews. Then I counted. Only 36 to go. Kill me now.

Sol, would it be possible to point new members to the Premium forum post entitled "How to Get the Most Reviews of Your Writing" in the site's documentation for new members? It's a detailed list of tips that should help new members maximize the number of reviews they can receive. Please have a look and let me know if you'd like any changes to it.

Thanks
Dirk

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Sol, the contact info for support on the site is still incorrect. That's something new users would use more than existing members, so it really needs to be corrected.

PRIORITY: High. Affects new users' ability to get help. They can ask in the forums too, but it will seem to them that formal user support doesn't exist/respond.

Thanks
Dirk

Are you saying that was part of your childhood, Professor Hinkley? smile

Meltface won because I love the idea of the demons' faces starting to melt whenever they attack to scare their targets. Thank you both for your help.

Demonic teddy bears! Great idea.

>>How about demon flesh, demon meat, demon corps (pronounced like Marine Corps)?
But then the short form would be demon. I'm trying to save that term to be synonymous with demonic spirits.

There's also meatbags/bags of meat instead of fleshies/zombies.
I could also use meltface, although I originally had that in mind for corporeal demons in the final battle of book 3 who allow their faces to melt to scare enemy soldiers.
Cadavers?
And let's not forget fury (plural furies). Except mine are very dissimilar from furies as defined by the ancient Greeks.

So far fleshies and meltfaces are my favorites. For meltface, I could have my corporeals' faces begin to dissolve as they start getting shot, either to scare the shooter or because they're "dying", probably the former.

EDIT: Grumpy and grumpies! I like this even better than fleshy/fleshies.

EDIT2: I think meltface wins because I like the idea of their faces starting to melt right away to scare whoever is shooting at them. Admittedly, I also still like grumpy/grumpies.

Other possible names for corporeals is demon shells, demon corpses (even while still "alive"), and demon stiffs.

The short form for fleshy demons would simply be fleshies.