I'm fully aware there's no way to delete every word I've written on this site, but that doesn't mean I should make it easy for potential readers to find all of the spoilers. When someone Googles my book's name, I don't want my thread to be the first thing they find. Removing the thread from Google indexing would address that. If a book I write ever takes off, I'm sure those who know how will find all of it online, including in the internet archives.

Sol (or anyone), is there a way to configure an existing group or thread so that it doesn't show up on Google? Right now, anyone can read my two running threads, which I want to prevent. The threads are full of spoilers, and I'm sure I've said things over the years that would offend my target audience if taken out of context.

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Dirk

Just watched a film about the Zodiac serial killer. Close to three hours, but well done. A newspaper cartoonist, who is privy to many of the facts about the killings through co-workers, decides to write a book about him. The author uncovered new evidence that led the police back to their main suspect, a convicted pedophile, from years earlier. They were getting ready to re-interview him based on the new evidence, including a positive ID by a Zodiac survivor out of a photo lineup, but the suspect died of a heart attack before they could do so. I'm guessing he didn't make the cut for purgatory, where naughty Catholics go.

I just watched Angels & Demons for the 3rd time. Lots of great suspense, especially as they're racing from church to church, looking for the missing cardinals. Nasty deaths, though. More than I want to use in my books. Mine are supernatural deaths, so I can do things that Dan Brown couldn't (e.g., a heart crushed inside the chest with no external wounds).

It occurred to me, though, as I was watching, that the Vatican police (the Gendarmerie) never called in for additional help from the Italian police to see if anyone else could get to the target church faster than the Vatican car could. The commanding officer was racing with Tom Hanks through the busy streets of Rome half the night. You'd think there'd be someone closer to the churches to call on. There is definitely cooperation with Italian police in real life because the Gendarmerie is too small. Very cool Italian car though (Lancia Delta, manufactured by Fiat). They no longer make them, so I'll be going with an Alfa Romeo Giulia (https://www.digitaltrends.com/car-revie … review/#/1). At $48K, I figured it was probably more than the Vatican would really spend on police cars, but I discovered that it's the main type of car used by both of Italy's national police forces (civilian and military).

Just watched Silence of the Lambs for the first time in 25 years. Anthony Hopkins was brilliant right up to his hilarious final scene in Haiti. The serial killer Buffalo Bill, who was the subject of the FBI's manhunt, was less interesting, at least until Agent Starling (Jodie Foster) got to his house. That was intense.

Picked up an important item to research. When do dead bodies start to smell? A quick search suggests an average of 24-36 hours, although it can be as little as 8-12 depending on temperature and humidity.

From https://www.quora.com/Decomposition-How … -smelling:

When I was about 16, I was cleaning and found a glass container with a lid and liquid in it in my parent's bathroom under the sink far back in the corner out of direct sight. It had old yellowed medical tape sealing the lid very well.  Curiosity got the best of me, so I opened it after 10 minutes or so of trying. When I took the lid off, I almost threw up.  Inside was the dentures of my great grandmother that she kept in that container to soak at night.  They had been in there since her death about 20 years prior.  It was loaded with trillions of bacteria and putrescine from foul mouth odor. If about 5% of sweet but rancid smelling urine was added to that, you'd have a good idea of the stench of death.

I have a character named Connor who is travelling through the Holy Land and reports seeing and hearing Christ at various traditional locations where the events of the Gospels are believed to have taken place (e.g. Bethlehem, Nazareth, Capernaum, Jerusalem, etc.). In order to maintain the mystery of what Connor experiences until the end of book one, he is not one of the POV characters. A priest who travels with him is the POV character. Connor relates through dialogue everything that he sees and hears, and I can get as detailed as I want about that. However, doesn't the summary through dialogue of his experiences make it all "telling" rather than "showing"?

Thanks.
Dirk

I see now why Seven was rated so highly. I saw this decades ago. The ending was a 10 out of 10.

Rented an old movie called Seven tonight about a twisted serial killer who kills people who have committed one of the seven deadly sins. Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman (one of my favorite actors), and Gwyneth Paltrow star. Just finished the first hour. Morgan Freeman shines in this compared to Pitt and Paltrow, even though the movie is painfully boring. Some group of filmmakers got together and said, "What are the grossest, most twisted ways we could torture and kill seven people?" No class whatsoever to this film. Of course, this weekend I plan to watch Silence of the Lambs after 25 years. I don't remember the killings in that film, but I remember that Anthony Hopkins and Jody Foster were superb together.

Earlier I watched a few scenes from the 1945 version of And Then There Were None (aka Ten Little Indians). The acting back then was so over-the-top and the music was like nails across a chalkboard. I quickly remembered whodunnit. I may buy the book anyway. There were quite a few twists and red herrings, if I remember correctly. Kdot likes to create spreadsheets for the stories on this site he reads to keep track of who's who. I'll probably need to do the same for ten characters who all show up at once.

EDIT: Seven is rated 8.6 on IMDB. I'd give it a 2 so far. Only one thriller moment as yet, when the SWAT team descends on who they believe is the killer, only to discover that he's been tortured to near death.

Got it. As soon as the third episode is available, I'll do a marathon.

Thanks, Kdot. There seem to be three seasons, only two of which are up on Google. Also, I was hoping for a single movie. A miniseries is overkill. It would be like someone making three movies out of the Hobbit. :-)

Unfortunately, streaming of Amazon's US content doesn't work from Canada due to licensing issues. They recognize I'm in Canada and prevent me from renting. There are ways to trick Amazon, but, as a writer who may one day publish a copyrighted work, I want to respect their license, no matter how dumb it is. Even the 1945 version on Youtube is still copyrighted, so that's out too. I'm allowed to buy the Kindle book you showed me on Amazon, so I'll go with that.

dagny wrote:

I hope you get this before you buy the paper back:
https://www.amazon.com/Then-There-Were- … dpSrc=srch

Perfect! Thank you.

There's a 2016 remake with Aidan Turner (never heard of him). It sells for $35 on DVD, $30 for Blue-ray. I'd love to see a modern version, but not for that money. Neither Amazon, Netflix, or Youtube have newer versions to rent in Canada. There's a 1945 version in English and a 1987 Soviet version available on Youtube that I'll check out tomorrow.

Thank you, dagny. Will check.

I own Angels & Demons by Dan Brown. It has some similarities to what I'm doing (Rome and murders). Time to dust it off.

I went looking for Ten Little Indians by Agatha Christie, hoping it was in the public domain. No such luck and, naturally, not on Kindle. The most recent movie version of that book was made in 1974 and sells for $20. I may have to do it the old fashioned way and order the paperback. I read the first chapter online. Many of the characters are introduced in the first chapter, each in a very short scene. That's a lot of faceless characters to remember.

I'm in the process of planning a supernatural thriller that includes a serial killer believed to be the Antichrist. I was wondering if anyone can suggest favorite murder mysteries/thrillers to read for research. Preferably classics or well-researched bestsellers. If they're about serial killers, so much the better.

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Dirk

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My favorite remains The Empire Strikes Back. Return of the Jedi could have topped it IMO were it not for the Ewoks. That being said, the confrontation between Luke, Vader, and Palpatine remain my favorite scenes in the franchise.

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Just saw Solo. No wonder it didn't make more money. It didn't have the magic of Star Wars. They really should have used the classic Star Wars scroll for these anthology films. Also, more of the original Star Wars music. As is, it's just another meh sci-fi film. Three stars.

Hmm. My latest physical book purchase, In the Steps of Jesus, is very well done. Lots of details, photos, and Biblical context, as I previously mentioned. Too bad the damn thing is a decade out of date. The author re-released it on Amazon in 2017 without a complete update. The only reason I know that is I already did the research for the three competing baptism sites. One of them didn't exist when he first released this book, and he makes no mention of two of them in the re-release. They're major tourist attractions for Christians in Israel, so I'm a bit surprised. I was kind of hoping the book would help me fast-track my research, but it's just another "mostly" reliable source to sift through. Still makes for an interesting read, though.

I just read the first cartoon. While that type of humor appeals to me in small doses, I'm trying for a Catholic-friendly story this time. Although the ending I have in mind differs from Revelation, it will be very Christian. I read the Lord of the World, which is a 100-year-old Catholic novel about the End Times recommended by Pope Francis, and it simply omitted the troublesome part where humans are judged and sent to hell for eternity. My book summary will be clear that it's a story about a Catholic orphan who may be Christ returned in the flesh. Fundamentalists would disapprove since they take literally the angel's statement to the apostles that Christ will return in the same form as when he left (i.e., an adult God, roughly thirty years old). The Pope's Council of Cardinal Advisers will debate that issue early in the book since it needs to be addressed.

I don't know yet what to change about New Testament events that Connor observes. I'm thinking of ramping up slowly on those changes, starting with subtle differences that the religious characters in the story find curious (e.g., some of the wording of Jesus's sermons). That could be explained by the fact that Jesus gave those sermons many times all over Galilee and could have changed them to suit His audience. I'm hoping to build up to one striking change that leaves the characters awed, if troubled. It gets resolved cleanly at the end of book one. Nothing as crazy as Christ having a child, although that idea sold a lot of books, just not to good Catholics.

Correction to my previous statement that I can't really mess with the content of the Gospels. I just remembered that my book doesn't follow Revelation to the same ending. Given how my trilogy will end, I can explore other differences between what Connor observes to have happened in the past versus what is documented in the New Testament. Adds to the mystery of the book.

I don't plan to kill one per chapter, but yes it will be a large number.

I'm not sure yet how to deal with the fact that the police would normally put together a large task force to capture a serial killer, especially one killing cardinals in Rome. I'd rather not do a task force since it requires other unnecessary characters and a lot more information about police procedures, which I don't yet have. Even if I wanted to do it, I'd have to base it off how the US would handle the situation, since there's no information available in English about Italian police procedures. The Vatican's Secretary of State (the most senior position among cardinals) will be involved in both halves of the story (Connor, serial killings) as a proxy for an ailing pope (he appears at the end of book one). Since the Vatican believes it's the Antichrist, I'm considering having the cardinal insist on secrecy to avoid freaking out the whole world. That would allow me to limit the number of police personnel involved to a manageable number. There would be obvious rumors about multiple deaths and a possible serial killer, but the Vatican and police could deny it. They could get away with that because many of the deaths will seem like natural causes, accidents, even suicide. The number of outright murders is still up in the air. I plan to have a female police detective and her counterpart from the Vatican police as the lead investigators.

What do you think?

EDIT: There won't be a separate chapter for each of Jesus's events. Events in close proximity to each other in Galilee will be covered in the same chapter. Jerusalem will probably need two or three chapters.

Ugh. Even after trimming the list of events in Jesus's ministry to only the most spectacular ones, that still leaves fifteen more events to research. So far, I've only done four, which took over three weeks. Fortunately, I have enough to start the outline.

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I can't find your chapter. Which book is it in?

Dirk