I was wondering if I can get a few opinions on how to handle repetitive story elements such as bowing one's head to a cardinal or speaking the Trinitarian fornula (In nominee patris, et filii, et spiritus sancti. Amen.) every time one crosses oneself.

One example is my exorcism chapter. As written, Father Romano, Connor, and Father Luca don't explicitly bow their heads to Cardinal Nnamani when they approach him at the hospital. I left it as implied since both Romano and Connor have previously bowed their heads in his presence back at the orphanage and would do so again. However, as they enter the hospital room together, everyone inside (all new characters) rises and bows their heads. Since it's all one scene, it should probably be consistent for everyone, and I'm inclined to do it throughout the book (there aren't that many occurrences).

The other one is more tricky. It would grow very tiresome if I had someone explicitly verbalize the Trinitarian formula every time they cross themselves. It would be equally repetitive if I explicitly noted every time someone crosses themselves, including at the beginning and end of every prayer. I have yet to find a good way to communicate to the reader that when someone prays, many (not all) cross themselves before and after the prayer, and when they cross themselves, they often (not always) speak the formula, and some, like Connor, speak the formula in Latin.

In one of Seabrass's stories, he frequently notes the bells of the clock tower, even down to a quarter hour. I thought it was a little overdone (sorry, Charles), but I'm sure he had his reasons for his POV character noting the time. Also, his main character, Lake-Ellen, carries a wooden staff for defense, and he was pretty consistent in noting when she put it down or picked it up.

Thoughts?

Thanks
Dirk

Love debates on religion. My book is about the End Times in Revelation, so it has a mostly Catholic bent, but I may want to expand into Judaism and Islam in the next book. It would be an enormous undertaking to learn about those religions, so I haven't decided yet. That would be for books two and three. Book one is largely focused on Catholicism, although Connor visits Israel for a pilgrimage to follow in Jesus's footsteps.

My education in theology is limited but growing, especially Catholicism. I'm definitely not a priest, although I'm delighted that you might think so. My last book was a space opera that focused on mental illness and a religion called the Christian Heresy. My current book includes elements inspired by Star Wars (the Force) and, oddly enough, the old Angel vampire TV series (I have characters named Connor and Michael(Angelo)). No actual vampires in my book but plenty of Catholic demons. It's set in Rome, the Vatican, and the Holy Land.

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Just checked out your posting. I strongly recommend that you post for points if you want the most number of reviewers.  Some of us have enough points to last until the next age of Middle Earth, but many need to earn points to publish their own work.

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Welcome, Marius. You're on the right site and in one of the most active forums. Although it is technically possible to have work plagiarized, I haven't heard of it happening on this site. A copyright notice automatically appears in each chapter you post. Be sure not to post to the internet, then your work will only be visible on the site.

If you check out the posts in this forum, you'll see brainstorming threads for fantasy, science fiction, a supernatural thriller (mine), and heaven knows what else. We gathered here long ago because other forums aren't as active.

I look forward to reading your work. Please check out the content summary of my book, Saving Connor, to see if it's something you might be interested in. Just click on my username and it will take you to my profile page, where you'll find my book.

Dirk

The primary target audience is Catholics. If I can entice other Christians or thrillers readers, so much the better. If it was for a general audience, there'd be far less praying and probably more violence (like Angels & Demons by Dan Brown). As it is, I'll be killing four cardinals, which is bad, but is necessary for the story. Besides the dead gravedigger, I'm hoping to have few other deaths, but I'm not sure yet.

I'm following the rules of Catholicism as closely as I can. They take this stuff very seriously, so I don't want to stray from their rules unless I really have to. I can fix the issue with Connor and the reverend mother easily enough, so I don't need to make stuff up. I'm also trying to create a realistic picture of Rome, the Vatican, and the Holy Land. I spent a year doing research for this trilogy so that I can get it right. No sense stopping now
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Nuts. Several folks on my Catholic forum tell me that demons possess only the body of a person and that the soul is freed when the body dies, unless the possessed person willingly accepts the devil. That screws up my scene where Connor saves the reverend mother's soul just before her deathbed warning and physical death. Not sure how to fix that. I suppose she could be possessed to keep her from giving Connor her warning before she dies. Perhaps she learns of the warning through prayer and tells her fellow nuns that she needs to find Connor (or Constantino), whoever he is, then becomes possessed.

Celsius. Edmonton, about three hours north of Calgary, is forecast to be the coldest place on Earth this coming week. :-)

Someone built an igloo in Calgary and listed it on Airbnb. :-)

Weather forecast for Calgary calls for a high of -27 degrees later this week. I remember now why I hate the Prairies.

No, just me not using a chapter checklist yet. If I don't write it down and read it every chapter, I forget to do it. Same goes for Antonio Beneventi haunting Romano for the rest of the book. I once forgot to put God in one of the Galaxy Tales chapters. :-)

The haunting may grow old very quickly, like De Rosa's constant itching/scratching.

Oops. Totally forgot that two exorcists are supposed to be shadowing Connor to protect him. I figured one on duty and another off duty. I managed to slip one in without adding to the character count (e.g., the soccer game referee is also the exorcist). In the Holy Land, the tour guide can double as an exorcist, so I don't have to add yet another priest to Connor's SUV.

Gravedigger chase is up. I had a little fun with it. Makes the scene about a page longer.

Thanks for the suggestion, Kdot.

I prefer Diet Pepsi or chocolate soy milk. You know, health food. tongue

I think you missed one of my posts above. It's unlikely to appear in the books, but I want an explanation for myself so that I have a set of rules to follow for consistency throughout the trilogy. My proposed rules also led to the discovery that one could have two demon-spawns each pass their demon chromosome to an offspring, probably making their child even more powerful than the parents. I don't see a use for that in the trilogy as envisioned, but it's within the rules should I care to explore it.

Minor correction to the above. Since one half of all chromosomes come from the mother, the demon encoding would come from only a male chromosome, not from both parents. So, if you have one demon chromosome, you're a demon-spawn with great powers. But what if you have two demon-spawns mate and the chromosomes handed down are both the demonic ones?  I wonder if I can use that somewhere.

I may never use the demon-science in the books, but I'd like to have my own explanation beyond hand waving. Basic elements: a female human, a demon father, a tussle under the sheets, and a fetus that develops normally, but harbors something from the father that gives it demonic powers. Chromosomes and genes seem like the ideal solution. So much is unknown about our genes, it's a reasonable place to encode for superpowers.

What if there is a chromosome pair in demon-spawns that is different from normal humans? Have it code for the demonic powers. The satanic equivalent of midichlorians. :-)

In the Omen, Damien's blood cells matched those of a jackal, which was his mother. I assume the father was Satan.

What a great question. I've been told that angels and demons in Catholicism can't reproduce, although some church fathers thought Satan could father the Antichrist. That, of course, was before knowledge of DNA, which I have now bumped up against. I need a Y chromosome. Perhaps the demon should sample a dead human (e.g., in a morgue or cemetery), which would give it the ability to assume that human's form, including its DNA. The problem then comes back to where in the child is the demonic essence and power? Perhaps a half-soul and a half-demon essence? Meh.

Hmm. I need a demon in human form to impregnate a woman in my story. I set it up in the exorcism chapter by giving the chief exorcist a complete human body, including on the inside. That means he has bodily fluids, including blood and semen. The tricky part is whose DNA does a demon carry? There has to be a male chromosome since the offspring will be male. It's not enough for the demon to possess a male body and use his DNA for that purpose. I need the offspring to be part demon. That's how the child will inherit demonic powers.

Suggestions?

Thanks
Dirk

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Such adoration from my fans. I am truly humbled.

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And you, dearest, are nonpareil.

We finally agree on something. :-)

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You're not interested in knowing which forums are most active? I rely on active forums to bounce ideas off other writers. One of our latest new members is also looking for active forums for her historical fiction project. Even my favorite haunt, Medieval Fantasy/Magic, is increasingly quiet. I don't want to use Premium for brainstorming threads because they get derailed too easily.

Even including the last forum posting date when browsing through groups would suffice. Saves having to drill into each group to do it manually. It's an extra piece of text on an existing screen. There's lots of room for it on the screen.

Sol could probably code it in less time than it took me to write this response.