Absolutely. If I remember correctly, Muslims consider Jesus a prophet but nothing more. Although, technically, Connor could try to convince them their beliefs are simply incorrect, that woud be something he'd be unlikely to be able to sell to most Muslims. However, his performance at St. Peter's Basilica would certainly help. Or, if I wanted to go nuts, I could have many non-Christian holy places "collapse" without explanation around the world as acts of God. Ditto for any places non-Catholic Christians revere but Catholics do not. Those are much more convincing events than mere attempts at persuasion. And, after all, these aren't actual acts of God since any reader of book one will know he's the Antichrist.

On second thought, I'll probably do some preliminary research on other religions/spiritual beliefs. With any luck, I can go deep on a couple and then give lip service to the rest. Perhaps Buddhism, Judaism, and the psychic realm. I'll probably do a lot on the last of these since it's an area I've developed a strong interest in recently.

Destroying the Dome would fit with a literal interpretation of Revelation, not a Catholic one. Catholics believe rebuilding the temple is all figurative wording. From Wikipedia:

Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Christians believe that the Eucharist, which they hold to be one in substance with the one self-sacrifice of Christ on the Cross, is a far superior offering when compared with the merely preparatory temple sacrifices, as explained in the Epistle to the Hebrews. They also believe that Christ Himself is the New Temple, as spoken of in the Book of Revelation and that Revelation can best be understood as the Eucharist, heaven on earth. Their church buildings are meant to model Solomon's Temple, with the Tabernacle, containing the Eucharist, being considered the new "Holy of Holies." Therefore, they do not attach any significance to a possible future rebuilding of the Jerusalem Temple.

Although I will borrow some elements from a Protestant belief of a final battle at Armageddon (Satan and his armies will gather there in preparation for war), that's merely for show. Christ and Satan both know that the "battle" will come down to Connor's choice of who (whom?) to kill. I may include a skirmish between the angels and demons, which halts when Christ returns, in preparation for Connor's decision.

Also, I don't plan to incur the wrath of Muslim readers by destroying one of their most holy sites, even in fiction. There will be some effort by Connor in book two to convert them, just as he'll try to convert others, but I'm not likely to go into much detail since it would require studying multiple other religions to figure out how best to squeeze Connor into their existing beliefs. TBD.

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njc wrote:

The Hawaiin islands were, IIRC, originally the Sandwich Islands.  Maybe they should be bought by Subway?

Perhaps Hawaii should build a subway under the volcanoes. smile

855

(309 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

The islands were renamed after someone named Bezos (who could it be?) from the past (and why were they renamed?). I can't imagine. smile Everything else is left up to the imagination of the reader.

856

(309 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

...New Bethlehem’s founding in 2987 CE by members of the Libertarian Church, established on the Bezos Islands, formerly known as Hawaii, in Earth’s Pacific Ocean in 2312

857

(309 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

Minor change: the Eternal Colonies are now the Independent Colonies, which seems pretty clear that they're (duh) independent (i.e., not colonies of the Earth/Imperium, as one might otherwise assume). "Free" would have worked as well, but Independent sounds loftier IMO.

My story takes place some years past the current day. Remember the pope is a guy named Peter. Although the missile sounds cool from a thriller perspective, all danger in the Holy Land comes from whoever is attacking Connor. Can't imagine who that would be. tongue  A missile, then, would come across as gratuitous in my mind (ie something irrelevant to the overall plot).

Thanks. I can't remember if I saw that Holy Land website or not. I bought the book for it though, among others.

Good grief. Today I stumbled upon a website (https://www.jeffbondono.com/TouristInRome/index.html) that appears to document every major tourist attraction in Rome. I haven't had a chance to go through it much, but it also includes some Vatican locations; not sure if it includes all of those I would care about. Had I found this many years ago, it could have saved me a ton of work. The pages I looked at even had pictures of each attraction, which would have been infinitely easier than me trying to dig through pics on Google images trying to distinguish real pics from those that are simply mislabeled, which happens a lot!

Now if only there were a comparable site for the Holy Land.

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Do you foresee needing any other gods from outside the Cheyenne culture and demons/angels from the Bible? Is there no way to write the scene without pulling in gods from other mythologies? One of the reasons I commented the way I did near the end of the previous draft, is that it seemed like you were throwing everything into the story but the kitchen sink, which left virtually no time to flesh them out. Do you need to introduce a god specifically for wine? Does that god do/contribute anything else to the story? Will that god be a main character like Romano, a supporting character like Nnamani, or just someone who hangs around the saloon for a scene or two then disappears? Does he contribute significantly to the plot? At one point in Connor, I introduced a suspected infiltrator (a bishop) in one scene only to have him thrown out of the Vatican a few paragraphs later. Needless to say, I need to find a way to fix that. It adds virtually nothing to introduce and then immedialy toss a character, especially one who is supposedly evil.

Just some random musings without having even read the new chapter. smile

Who is the target audience by the way?

I should have some time to review your latest chapter sometime this month. I have to be careful how often I say that, though, as I'm under the gun to finish my estate documents, which has turned into a real bear.

862

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I'm sorry to hear what you're going through, Marilyn. I know how much you care about the animals

Best of luck on the operation.
Dirk

863

(309 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

No, Elon is already in the scene as Imperator Elonus "the Socialist", who increased taxes by 2% to feed the poor. As Ozzie said, "Madness!"

864

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New naming contest:

I need a name for an island in the Pacific Ocean on which the Libertarian Church is founded in the 24th century, which was originally a tax dodge for the obscenely wealthy (followers of the Greedy Gospel). So far, I've considered Billionaire's Island, Koru Island (named after Jeff Bezos's yacht), and Lord High Admiral Bezos's Island, among others. So far I like the latter best.

Kdot wrote:

Nope, not moderator. We'll need Sol to fix the groups (again)

I was going to try finalizing the list of groups to keep that I posted in Premium some weeks ago, but I'm snowed under with personal crud at least until the end of the year.

K.dot, are you still a moderator of this group? If so, I believe you can change the group's name.
Also, see if you can make a forum post sticky. I'd be curious to know if the feature still worked back then.

> E.L.Lyons
What a great name.

Amen

Janet!  Yay. So nice to see you here in your old stomping ground. Brings back great memories.

Speaking of which, Queen Aussie has become a permanent fixture of my sci-fi romp. If you recall, she became rather demented during the opening battle, but was the only crew member to survive (she ejected just as Admiral St. James rammed the Imperial dreadnought, destroying both ships). Aussie went on to become CEO of Lo Bidda Corporation (think ACME), the inept company that built her, and is the mastermind behind numerous terrorist attacks across the galaxy, intended to drive up sales of military materiel. She's being hunted, so she's gone undercover, hiding in plain sight as the galaxy's first roving android reporter: Monarch Ozzie. smile

And I'm just getting warmed up. smile

How are you doing? In case we don't see you later this month, Merry Christmas. smile
Dirk

870

(309 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

Pope George I wrote:

Also, I thought you would use Freedom troops, Freedom fleet, but Colonial is pretty cool, too.

I would have used those if the name of the republic were the Free Stars.

871

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What if there's no space station there either? smile

I just realized the Free Colonies has the same need to explain "What are they free of?" as the Free Stars, but I don't care. The Free Colonies it is, and the adjective will be Colonial: Colonial fleet, Colonial troops, etc., which is a cool word imo.

We have [yet another] new name! LOL  I wonder if early Canadians and Americans had as much trouble naming our countries. smile

That reminds me of a joke I once heard from a comedian: The settlers of Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan were trying to name their new settlement. One of them suggested they open the door to the cabin they were in and whatever they saw first, that would be the name. Hence Moose Jaw. It's a good thing they didn't see the other end of the moose, otherwise they'd have to call it ... Edmonton (our oft-mocked provincial capital). It was a Calgarian audience, so it got a lot of laughs. Of course, the comedian regularly did the same comedy routine in Edmonton, too, so I can guarantee the punchline there was "Calgary". Imagine the reception that joke would get in either city if the comedian ever mistook which one he was in. smile

Thanks for your help, gents.
Dirk

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(309 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

I've tentatively whittled it down to:

The Confederacy - my only concern with this is that readers may be wondering how/if this relates to the US Civil War, which it doesn't
The Eternal Fellowship (of Stars?) - the mantra becomes "For the Fellowship!" - I still like this
The Free Stars - "Freedom!" - this probably requires a bit of explaining early on that it's freedom from the Imperium. It would have been founded shortly after colonization of the stars began, as people left/fled Earth.
The Free Colonies - "Freedom!" - like this a lot; requires no explaining
The Eternal Worlds - "For Eternity!"

873

(309 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

Ugh, Kdot, how do I use that here, where I'm trying to name an interstellar republic?

874

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There's also:
Fellowship - yup, I'm back to that one; probably the Eternal Fellowship
Confederacy -> Confederate fleet, Confederate worlds, Confederate troops
Brotherhood
Kinship?
Clan

The above might be preceded by the word Enduring or Eternal, and/or followed by the words "of Stars" (when these things make sense).

Or:
The Free Stars -> Freedom fleet, Freedom worlds, Freedom troops
The Bonded Stars
The Eternally Bonded Stars -> Bonded troops, Bonded worlds, Bonded fleet

The United Stars - too close to the United States
The Union of Stars - ditto; also, not as cool as Confederacy

875

(309 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

Of course, there's always the Enduring Stars or the Eternal Stars. The latter is kind of cool because you then get Eternal planets, Eternal fleet, Eternal troops, etc., but I may then get readers wondering how stars could become eternal. smile