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Do they need to meet (often)? No. I think the story works well enough without forcing them together. Although, as Amy observed years ago, it was pretty much two stories most of the way. In an earlier draft on which she commented, they had no interactions in acts 1 and 3, and virtually none in act 4. That was three quarters of the book. I think the Royals Forum fixed act 1 well enough. I don't know if there's much more I can do to bring them together (electronically or otherwise) in acts 3 & 4.

Although, after Joseph and Paul escape slavery and go to the palace in search of Apollo's assistance, instead of them being shot, I could have Joseph and Apollo meet again, but I then still need Joseph and Paul (or Joseph and Catherine) to end up in "Heaven", the nickname for the prison where Joseph and company end up, so named because of it's high mortality rate.

I can't see Apollo being angry enough at Joseph to throw them into that prison, so it would have to happen after a face to face meeting. I suppose they could leave the palace, perhaps with special Imperial identification to get them all the way back to New Bethlehem. Something goes wrong, and their IDs are lost or stolen.

Of course, all this is in addition to everything else that has to happen during the chapter in which Apollo and Joseph meet, which is fine since I have plenty of room to expand my chapters in novella form.

Not much opportunity for prolonged tension between them, though.

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Kdot wrote:

You mean publish here or Amazon?

On Amazon first, then elsewhere if it's worth the extra effort.

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Since it will probably take me a long time to finish cleaning up and publishing Archangel (since Connor v2 is the priority), I'm seriously considering publishing the first act of Archangel Syndrome as a longish novella (about 50K words) and putting that up as my first book. I would then take an occasional break from Connor (probably at the end of each act) to clean up and publish each subsequent act of Archangel as novellas 2-4, resulting in the following:

Novella 1 - the first act of Archangel. The two points in the first act where Joseph and Apollo commit to their destinies, determined that nothing will stop them, would be the end of this novella, give or take an epilogue/preview of novella 2. A trimmed version of Brain-Masters would then get punted to the beginning of novella 2. I could then restore to novella 1 one of my favorite deleted chapters (the one where Apollo is almost whipped to death at the Colosseum by Nero, after which Apollo has to undergo surgery without anesthesia).

Novella 2 - the entire second act of Archangel (the Young Leaders Conference), ending with the assassination of both Regent Mary and Nero. This act is currently rather short, even if I prepend a trimmed version of Brain-Masters to it, so it gives me the option to have the delegates visit Catholika and maybe one other planet. Depends on how much new material I care to write. Since the pope would be female, I have a few folks here I can choose as the pope (probably either Georgina or the Virgin Marilyn, both Protestants in real life). And I would definitely include a bit of crossover nonsense from the Connor books.

Novella 3 - the entire third act. Apollo is sworn in, is haunted by Nero (assuming the changes aren't too complex), up to where Apollo is overthrown and "hung" on New Bethlehem, including being accidentally decapitated as he is hung. Joseph accidentally ends up on a slaver ship, is enslaved on Earth, then imprisoned, then is rescued by Leonardo (the loonie taxi driver), and boards a transport for home, knowing an attack on New Bethlehem is now imminent.

Novella 4 - the fourth act of Archangel, consisting of the main battle and its aftermath, including the current epilogue, in which Joseph throws himself off a cliff, and Apollo concludes God is real and decides to build a Christian empire. I would reveal at the end of this novella the cause of the supernatural beings that plague Apollo and Joseph.

Beyond finally getting something published, an added advantage of doing this is I get enough room to flesh out each act of Archangel. In spite of cutting unnecessary chapters from act one about a year ago, by the time I fleshed out the rest of that act to what I consider an appropriate level of detail, I was back to a huge first act. I suspect the same will be true of subsequent acts, heading toward 200K total words. I always have the option at the end to put them together as one big book.

The main problem with these, I think, is that Joseph and Apollo don't meet at all in novellas 1 and 3, only in novella 2 and briefly at the end of novella 4. Naturally, they regularly interact via Galaxinet during novella 1 (via the Royals Forum, where they piss each other off).

Thoughts?
Dirk

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Hi Vern. Looking back at my received inline reviews for that year, I have none after April 1, 2021 until the system was restored in late 2023. And the contest ended April 30 of 2021, so the Great Hiccup caused the loss of everything sometime after April 1.

Sorry.

I have to admit, I'm a bit fuzzy about personal timelines vs. collective timelines. The Kelvin Timeline that JJ Abrams created for the Star Trek franchise, so he could change anything he wanted, is what I consider a collective timeline. I haven't watched anything new from Star Trek in many years, but I don't recall them ever discussing that there are infinite universes, and each decision by each person leads to another universe, which is what I call a personal timeline.

Tentatively, in my story, only God creates an alternate timeline and "moves" us there. Although I don't go into details in my 4th century document (already posted, by the way), it implies the original timeline has been abandoned. I couldn't do the challenge and also leave the characters, which technically includes us, on our original timeline since that breaks biblical inerrancy.

So, rather than God creating duplicate copies of us for the new timeline (which includes the challenge) while also leaving the original version of us in our real world timeline (where there is no challenge), I chose that he moved us there and abandoned the original timeline. That creates its own set of issues, though. While there may be only one of each of us in the multiverse that way (each with their own soul), somehow God recreated the whole universe (from the galaxies down to every non-human life form in existence) and put us there. What about all the microbes in and on our bodies, many of which we need to live? Did those move to? And the pet cat I was holding when God moved us? And every ape, even though some have almost the identical DNA as us? Etc.

Riddle me this: Since I use an alternate timeline in Rise of Connor, that is essentially an alternate universe. Now, it's easy to imagine God being beyond (outside of) all universes, but what about us? If there were other versions of us, then what soul do they have (not mine obviously)? It suggests that alternate universes aren't compatible with Christianity. The reason I realized this is that I'm considering rephrasing my story's "new path through time" to a "timeline in an alternate universe". Although the word timeline didn't exist back then, it could simply be a term first used and defined by the Holy Spirit in the information documented by my 4th-century hermit prophesying Christ returning as a child (a document written by Satan).

Currently, my writeup refers to the "original path through time" and the "new path through time", the latter having branched off the original the moment God accepted Satan's Last Challenge. I did this because I didn't want my characters to speculate about why events in their version of reality don't match the Bible in our real world, without having an explanation for it.

Although Satan wrote the answer to that question, he actually told some truth with regard to the challenge. They really are on an alternate timeline, there really is a challenge, but he lied when he "prophesied" that Christ will return as a child. The real challenge is about Connor (the Antichrist) choosing whom to "destroy" when the real Christ returns (Connor will throw the dagger at either Christ or Satan at that point).

So, my explanation of why the Bible is inerrant is because it was written for our real timeline, not the new/alternate timeline. However, both timelines originated from the same single timeline (ours, the only one that existed initially), and the new timeline didn't exist until the challenge became a reality. As a result, the story world has the same Bible as us, which only prophesies about our real future, not the story world's future. Once the characters realize they're no longer on the original timeline, the question of the Bible's inerrancy goes away.

It's interesting, though, that multiple universes with multiple copies of us appears impossible for Christianity. Either we have one soul per universe, or one soul across all universes. Both of them break Christianity.

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Thanks.

Just to clarify, when I was asking about act 1 vs act 2, I meant within the first book. Joseph's homeworld doesn't get destroyed until the end of the first book, which leaves a nice opening for a book 2 if there ever is one, although Joseph's fate at the end of book 1 is currently unknown. He jumps off the cliff wanting to know if Michael (or God) will save him. Fade to black....

At the beginning of book 2, I intended Joseph to crash onto a rocky shelf sticking out 10-20 feet below where he jumped from. So, technically, God saved him :-)

As noted in my previous post, both teenagers commit one chapter (each) prior to them leaving their home planets for the Young Leaders Conference. So, I could end the act after the commit or after they leave their planets.

In Star Wars, Luke commits after his aunt and uncle are killed, but he doesn't leave the planet until after they get to Mos Eisley, hire Solo, and blast their way off the planet. According to a couple of online sites about story structure, act 1 of Star Wars 4 ends when Luke tells Ben he wants to go with him to Alderaan and become a Jedi.

So, Apollo's & Joseph's commits are the end of act 1. The commits are far powerful moments anyway than each of their last chapters on their planets.

Thanks for your help.
Dirk

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Kdot, how many of your stories follow the traditional three-act story structure?

Star Wars, of course, follows it very closely. The story setup includes everything up to the murder of Luke's aunt and uncle. I haven't timed it in Star Wars, but the first act in three-act movies usually last about 30 minutes, which would be about 1/4 of Star Wars.

For my latest draft of Archangel Syndrome, I was trying to substantially reduce the length of the first act and was able to cut numerous chapters, but in fleshing out the rest of that act to what I consider a reasonable level of detail (including eventually cutting the length of the new "monster" chapter in half), I'm back up to about the same length (55,000 words, or 185 pages in a typical printed novel at 300 words per page).

Depending on which internet source you believe, a typical sci-fi story is 50,000-150,000 words or 80,000-120,000 words. I usually see the latter. For comparison, Dune is 190,000 words, Fellowship of the Rings (the longest of the LOTR books, albeit in the fantasy genre) is also 190,000 words, the first Harry Potter book is 75,000 words, and the longest Harry Potter book is 255,000 words.

I intend to self-publish, so I have some flexibility as to length, at least in terms of e-books, but the final printed book could easily be as long as Dune (about 600 pages using comparable words per page). Even if page count didn't affect the cost of the printed book, I suspect sci-fi readers would consider it very long.

What do you think? Too long? If I had to, I'm sure I could chop 25% from most of those opening chapters, but quite frankly, I don't want to. I already did that before fleshing out things I thought were needed. The monster chapter, where Joseph is thrown into the psych ward by his parents, is 10K words (though hopefully no more than 5-6K once I cut the hell out of it). But Joseph already decided to pursue his destiny (no matter what) after the cadet massacre, just as Apollo decided to pursue his destiny (no matter what) after the attack on New Bethlehem by psycho Dad.

Of course, neither of them leaves their respective planets for Neuer Mond until after Joseph is freed from the psych ward and Nero stages a phony assassination attempt (the one where Caligula's face is partially blown off and replaced by cyborg components), meaning one more chapter each before leaving.

What would you consider to be the end of act one/beginning of act two? Although the setting changes completely after those last two chapters, their decisions were made before those two chapters. This won't affect the overall story length, but I'm curious as to what you consider the dividing point.

In Star Wars, Luke didn't leave Tatooine until after they hired Han & Chewie and blasted their way out of Mos Eisley, meaning a few more chapters on the planet.

What do you think?

Thanks.
Dirk

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It means pinning a thread to the top of the forum, so it's always there, regardless of how many other threads are created or updated in the same forum. Have a look at topics in the Premium forum. A whole bunch of them are pinned there.

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Done.

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This thread isn't sticky, but VQF is. Do you want me to unstick that one?

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May I suggest using an alternate timeline? tongue

See Deu 29:1 for discussion on 28:69 vs 29:1. I suspect the Bibles you checked that are missing 28:69 have it as 29:1.
https://www.revisedenglishversion.com/c … eronomy/29

Looks like clicking a link from within an email generated by the site is being intercepted again:

Suspicious page blocked for your protection
https://email2.booksie.com/ls/click?upn … vaew-3D-3D
Your connection to this web page is not safe due to an unmatching security certificate.
This means that the certificate was issued for a different web address than the one it is being used for, and you run the risk of exposing your data by accessing this page.

Sol, any idea why this bug keeps coming back?

Thanks
Dirk

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Thank you, Sol.

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Found it. You actually have to open one of your posted works to see it.
My user id is Dirk B. same as on TNBW.

Thanks
Dirk

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Sol, I was looking for a link to BOB, but couldn't find one. The help guide has a page on it, but no link to it. Also, the Search field at the top doesn't bring it up either. I checked, and it looks like my Premium membership on Booksie has lapsed for the moment. Is that why I can't see it?

Thanks
Dirk

Kdot wrote:

More moving parts might not be a good thing

Yeah, I'm coming around to that conclusion too. I already have a hard enough time finding stuff for Antonio to do. Add a dog, and the chapters will either grow longer or everyone else gets less screen time. As is, I already have to add a few paragraphs in later Holy Land chapters to incorporate Connor's groupies, who chase after him from place to place to see him perform miracles and post the videos/pics online.

The battle between good and evil animals will definitely be included, though. I'm almost certainly going to add an extra murder in Rome, which allows for a few extra chapters in the Holy Land to visit areas where Jesus went but Connor didn't. The all out Watership Down-like battle will go into one of the new chapters near the end of the trip.

I knew about the angel of light disguise, but not the idea of his minions disguising themselves as good. It's an interesting idea, but I can't think of a reason why he would need a demonic dog. In fact I'm having trouble trying to figure out a dog's reason to be in the story except that Connor is sick and they get him the dog to cheer him up. Not much of an addition to the story.

An all-out battle between good and evil animals I definitely intend to do.

I thought of a great addition to the Holy Land chapters. Since Connor is frequently attacked by and/or saved by animals, I figure it should build to an all-out battle between dark animals, who bow to Satan, and light animals, who defend "Christ".

The dark animals are easy since they can each be possessed by a demon who know how to drive the animals into an attack. They do that with the hyenas at Capernaum. The light animals is trickier since Connor is the AC, not Christ. He can definitely make himself liked by animals, which he did a few times in the first draft. In fact, the whites doves even came to his rescue when he was attacked by the wild cat at the baptism site. Ditto for when the pratincoles saved the group from the demonic locusts.

It does beg the question how is Connor able to steer an entire army of animals to defend him? Obviously, he can't be in all their heads at once. The best way, which I think is already implied by the pratincoles and doves, is for him to be able to give off some "good" vibe that brings the unpossessed animals to his defense. I can also use some of the animals in the final battle of book 3.

I'm also thinking of giving Connor a dog throughout the trip in book 1. But I need to figure out what major contribution it can make to the story beyond merely giving a sick kid a dog, although it could reinforce the image of Connor as a sweet kid if his dog adores him. I doubt pets are allowed at the Western Wall in Jerusalem, though, not to mention at other tourist attractions, and in all the churches they visit.

>>I just have to be careful that his holiness doesn't ruin him as an interesting character.

What I meant was if it's not written correctly, the character will become boring (for the reader and the writer). The plot and his character arc still need to happen beyond him becoming holy. It has to serve the story somehow. Perhaps as he becomes more holy, he becomes more insightful about Connor and the dagger, and realizes the Sea of Galilee would cure him. Also, if I bring him back for books 2 & 3, I would then have to think up ways to use his holiness to benefit the rest of the story. And he probably wouldn't be the right person to get caught up in some violent event, although perhaps his growing holiness makes him a good choice for tackling demons. Stuff like that. Details TBD.

I was told many years ago that the story was becoming boring because, every time anyone runs into trouble, Connor prays and solves everyone's problems. Zero tension with that. It's the reason I added the demonic dagger and the various stages of Connor's sickness from it. Despite that, Seabrass thought things in the Holy Land were too predictable. He suggested I kill a few of the guards, but I couldn't do that since that would make Connor a murderer since he controls the events in the HL. If he's a murderer, then there's no point in having him fail to kill the pope too. Can't go that way. I'm still pondering how to address his concern.

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Very cool.

Sol, you never responded to the bugs I reported on this page (seven and counting; eight if you include Jack's issue). Some of them are new, others seem not to have been fixed. I just want to make sure you don't accidentally overlook these.

I suggested a priority for each of them in red: 2 very high, 2 high, 3 medium. I would also suggest high priority for Jack's reported issue about some forum posts disappearing too soon from the home page. One of the other high priority issues - getting the user support contact info right across the site - should be easy to do before digging into Jack's reported issue.

By the way, I'm pretty sure I've seen the same problem as Jack for years, but I never tried to reproduce it.

Please let me know if you need any help either reproducing these problems or testing fixes. I'd suggest we also involve more end users in testing fixes. I'm happy to coordinate that and to post short notes here as warranted to let people know when we think an issue has been fixed.

Thanks
Dirk

Sol, I retested the points calculation the site does and the ratio is still 5-to-1.

I posted a new book called Points Calc Testing which is 1760 words long according to MS-Word. It cost 5.38 points to post and pays 1.08 for each review. That's still a 5 to 1 ratio, meaning you have to review five 1760-word chapters in order to earn enough points to post 1760 words.

It was supposed to be changed to 3 to 1 to be much easier to encourage trial members to collect points and post. It should also be easier to do than most similar sites to this one, which don't offer an inline review system as good as ours, yet are thriving.

What really matters in the long run is of course the review-trading relationships among authors, not so much the points. If someone is unwilling to do even a few reviews at 3-to-1 to collect points and begin to develop those relationships, then this is not the site for them.

PRIORITY: High. Until this is fixed, we have the same big hurdle in place when trial members are trying to get a feel for the site. This ratio doesn't affect most long-term members since we've accumulated more points than God.

I managed to purge the word timeline from Satan's 4th century documents. The new terminology is river(s) of time, or river(s) for short. Seems more appropriate to the time period.

Cave-Dwelling Theologian (Satan) wrote:

A remarkable side effect of the Last Challenge is that, as time goes on, there shall be an increasing number of differences between the events of our world and those prophesied in the Bible right up until the Day of the Lord.


But how is this possible when we know the Bible to be free of error? The answer is, we no longer travel on the same river of time as the Bible’s prophets. It seems there can be many such rivers, branching off in different directions to different destinations.


The prophesies about a particular event or outcome apply only as long as we remain on the same river as those, like the Apostle John, who foresee events to come. However, the prophets see only what lies ahead on whichever river they travel. Only God sees them all.


Had there been no challenge, we — humans, angels, and demons — would have continued along the same river, and future events would match the Bible, including, eventually, the Apocalypse as prophesied in Revelation.


However, due to the challenge, changes are now inevitable. Rather than allow them to invalidate the Holy Bible — the flawless word of God — he created for us a new river in time that branches off the original and is therefore not bound to its prophesies.


The two rivers — which, prior to the challenge, were but one — share an identical history up to the moment the new one came into being. As a result, we have carried with us the same Bible along both currents, even though its prophecies apply only to the original river, whereas the challenge exists only along ours.


Thus, the Bible itself remains entirely free of error, provided we read it as God intended — a Bible for us as we existed on the one united river prior to the challenge. Although we share that Bible, it is no longer meant for us. The challenge takes us into uncharted waters for which I have included new prophecies given to me by the Holy Spirit.

No, the portals and the other worlds are for mortal sinners. They get there via the lake of fire, which is not the case for sinners going to purgatory. Granted, I could just wave my magical fiction wand and make it so, but it seems very clean at present in terms of a reader wrapping their minds around the story, especially a Catholic reader. The more I deviate, the harder it gets for them, and the less they're likely to like the story, imo.

Technically, one doesn't get a glorified body until after the Second Coming, so I guess you're just a disembodied soul waiting in Heaven for the Second Coming. Eve, if you recall, does get her glorified body, so she could be at the center of events to keep an eye on Adam/Connor, although that part of her mission doesn't begin until book 2.

Antonio will be the example of what purgatory is like in this story. It's not truly Catholic, but then not much is known about purgatory. I figure if you want absolution from a priest, you usually need to do some penance. If Antonio wants out of purgatory, he needs to make things right with Romano, which includes telling Romano the truth (that Antonio had already gone to confession prior to being hit by the truck, but he allowed Romano to think he died in a state of mortal sin). I'll treat what he did to Romano as a venial sin.

Antonio will continue to travel with the group like in the first draft, but he also needs to do some good works before he gets out of purgatory. If you recall, he "cured" Connor of the spiritual poison by figuring out the solution and dunking Connor in the Sea of Galilee. Naturally, Connor wasn't actually sick, but Antonio didn't know that. Still, I'll probably make that the last thing he needs to do to complete purgatory, even though Antonio won't know it right away.

So, for some reason, he remains with the group throughout the entire trip. Eventually, he'll get a chance to ask Phanuel what else to do to complete purgatory. He's told he already did complete it, and he may go to Heaven whenever he wishes. But he decides to do a few more good works by staying with Romano to oppose the efforts of the Unholy Trinity. My other option is to simply keep Antonio in the story, while he thinks he's still in purgatory, whereas in reality he cares too much about Romano and Connor that God knew he'd rather stay in purgatory long enough to finish his life's work. He would then find out at the end of book 3 that that's the real reason he's still on Earth.

One thing I'd like to include, though, is the idea that Antonio becomes more and more holy as he does more good works. It's a transformation that would happen automatically. It slowly purges him of sin, so he can go to Heaven, which definitely is Catholic. I just have to be careful that his holiness doesn't ruin him as an interesting character. I figure he can still say sarcastic things without them being sins.

Did I answer your question? :-)