In the movie it was given to Galadriel, in the opening. But in the books it's in the near-final scenes, as Treebeard says the he does not think they will meet again--to Galadriel, I think. But I'm not at all sure about that.
2,451 2015-11-22 13:42:33
Re: Genre History and Reading (6 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
2,452 2015-11-22 12:49:46
Re: Genre History and Reading (6 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Those words belonged in the original to Treebeard, I think.
With Bach, there's more to it than that. He represented a style going out of fashion, and people were accustomed to hearing that style as old and fusty, and were not disposed to give it a proper hearing. Composition and keyboard students knew differently, but much of Bach's other works were forgotten, and just a fraction were discovered and saved.
I have somewhere an LP that was advertised as The Last Concert of the Modern Jazz Quartet. The first cut opens with a dialogue between the piano and the vibraphone, a dialogue that is a note-for-note quote of the subject of the second contrapunctus of Bach's Art of the Fugue, a massive, abstract, work, Bach's unfinished Last Testament to posterity.
2,453 2015-11-22 11:45:30
Re: Genre History and Reading (6 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
I think it cuts a little deeper than that. He's right about the disconnect. How many people today are reading =Stranger in a Strange Land= or the =Foundation= series, much less =The Demolished Man=? Or even Le Guin?
And I think part of what he writes links to, and maybe was influenced by, Tolkien's essay =On Fairy Stories=. (I might not have the title quite right.) The uncanny may be marvelous and inviting, but it is parlous nevertheless. Can we read the collections of the Grimm brothers with the same emotional connection that our grandparents had?
In the cover notes for an LP recorded and pressed behind the Iron Curtain, E. Power Biggs wrote of Bach's audiences and first hearers, "privileged beyond their comprehension."
2,454 2015-11-22 05:50:07
Topic: Genre History and Reading (6 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
2,455 2015-11-21 18:20:22
Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread (1,905 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
I'll have to read the new posting at least two more times before commenting on it. I'm a very visual creature and I'll need that to interpret it.
2,456 2015-11-19 16:15:48
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Cool and clear and sudden as a bird sings in the grey ...
2,457 2015-11-18 09:18:25
Re: Suggestion for inline review points (69 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Or Anti-Couple.
2,458 2015-11-17 23:46:22
Re: The Sorcerer's Progress (1,528 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
And I'm having a glut of large-plot ideas pour in now. I'm recording them while trying to do immediate tasks. And I owe a bunch of reviews. Let's see if I can do four or five tonight.
2,459 2015-11-17 23:14:45
Re: Suggestion for inline review points (69 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
On a purely practical level, a discussion which converges on a few possible solutions is more likely to convince Sol & Co to change things that a discussion in which analysis of proposed solutions leads to criticism of each other's motives, approaches, attitudes and alma maters.
(Ducks.)
2,460 2015-11-17 01:31:52
Re: The Colorless Dragon Thread (354 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Yes.
2,461 2015-11-16 13:31:38
Re: Suggestion for inline review points (69 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I agree that a tweak would be good, but it's nice when the point system is there to remind us of our obligations, not to have us scurrying desperately for points. It's nice when your have communities of people who enjoy the task of reviewing each others' work--and care enough about the other to do it conscientiously.
2,462 2015-11-16 07:55:00
Re: Northern Skies - Janet! (520 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Oh, wow. I love you.
(Kidding, but I love people who do that work.) Take a look at rinkworks.com/stupid . It hasn't been updated in a long time, but I think you'll identify with it.
2,463 2015-11-16 07:06:45
Re: The Sorcerer's Progress (1,528 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
The Glaselle/Lifspynth change will close a small plot hole and give me a way to get her involved in things. I've been looking for a way to start that since ... well, for a while. Nothing big.
2,464 2015-11-16 07:01:12
Re: Northern Skies - Janet! (520 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
It's 9:30PM for me, but if it wasn't my day off, I'd be leaving work in half an hour.
Darnit, Janet. I need to catch up on reviews!
-Elisheva
Me too! I've got four I really need to do, and another seven or eight if I want to catch up. ![]()
Sounds like you're working table service hours.
2,465 2015-11-16 04:34:52
Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread (1,905 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Old enough that I have to do the calculation! Just a few weeks older than Sputnik 1, a child of the Atomic Age.
2,466 2015-11-16 04:25:35
Re: Northern Skies - Janet! (520 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Happy to help.
2,467 2015-11-16 03:05:34
Re: Northern Skies - Janet! (520 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Open a question that gets resolved in the next chapter--but leads to the REAL issue.
Yeah, cheap trick, but if the question seems to follow from what happened before and camouflages the real issue well, it's a good trick bought cheap.
2,468 2015-11-16 02:28:07
Re: Northern Skies - Janet! (520 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
You can't let the narrator step back and say something like "She couldn't have been more wrong," ?
2,469 2015-11-16 02:26:30
Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread (1,905 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Oh, about twenty years ago, my boss at work called me in. It seemed that some of my ESL colleagues had complained that I used too many big words. I said, "Am I being accused of erudition?"
Boss said, "I guess so."
Then there was the time that we got word of a new policy about how we were to develop our software. It was going to force me to be in the lab in the wee hours every day (it got me a lot of unneccessary OT) and I told my colleagues that "This is going to play merry hob with our development schedule."
For the next two weeks, the phrase "play merry hob" got slipped at least once into every conversation we had. (Pick your emoticon here.)
2,470 2015-11-16 02:19:17
Re: Genre Confusion (11 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
The shame of our modern genre categories is that books like The Wind in the Willows could never make it to print nowadays.
2,471 2015-11-16 02:16:52
Re: Suggestion for inline review points (69 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
As far as the number of comments trailing off as you get to the middle of a chapter: There are several reasons. One is that the reviewer is simply getting tired. Another is that the reviewer has played the same tune in many places, and it is of little benefit to the author to keep pounding. When I cut off for this reason, I say so and offer to come back if the author wants me to continue.
Another reason is that the chapter is really, really good and the reviewer has stopped reading as a reviewer and is reading as a reader. In rare cases, this happens. The author should be pleased when it does, although it does mean that nits get missed.
And, finally, there is the reviewer doing a cheap review for points. I can only suggest that authors bank some points so they don't have to rush to get points to post their chapters.
2,472 2015-11-16 00:32:18
Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread (1,905 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
I only remember the ones I remember. There are so any more I wish I remember. I'm embarrassed sometimes over going back to the same references again and again.
And I hope that everyone gets their own set of Wonderful Exemplars. Then we can share them with each other. Hey, learning pushes us sometimes, but it's great.
2,473 2015-11-15 22:55:18
Re: Suggestion for inline review points (69 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Another possibility is to count the length of the final comments. Just 50 words are needed in an out-line review. Maybe counting 30 words in the final comment as one inline will allow reviewers to meet the minimum with global analysis.
2,474 2015-11-15 21:50:04
Re: Site Bugs 2 (342 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
We have strong evidence that at least some of the text-handling logic is closely wedded to the HTML parse tree (and thus perhaps to the structure of the DOM model representation). That's the first place I would look for this anomaly.
But then, I've never lifted the hood on this baby.
2,475 2015-11-15 21:31:39
Re: Punctuation (296 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
In your last two paragraphs, I believe we agree.