You're in a complex dance

Ok... watched it. I can see nods to the books (people like me were complaining vociferously about this in the previous 2 movies). You could see them starting to realign with the books in the previous movie so maybe this'll close the gap

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Good Lurymants never land

As my post in premium describes, I'm trying to find a way to tone down the violence of the murder mystery half of my book.

Why are you trying to tone it down? Has your target audience communicated unease?

If the violence is excessive, I'll lose my target audience.

Who is this audience? The promotion company I used would immediately ask me to rattle off books my audience reads. If I couldn't name at least a dozen, they're kind of giving me the Internet side-eye

if the deaths are too repetitive, they lose their impact.

Valid... but there are only so many ways to brutally murder an innocent priest. By about murder 7, it'll be death by crayon consumption. Ah, but what is "impact"? Is it not measured by how much pathos we have for the victims?

If we're meant to feel an impact then we must feel loss. If we're to feel loss, we must grow to care for the victim.This isn't possible if the victims are dropping off faster than we can learn their stories. Consider having 3 of those victims pop out of the chain and ask the detectives to save them. Them immediately kill one, so we can care for the remaining two. Bonus points if you can make 7 victims meaningful then kill 6 then the 7th gets killed anyway.

I can also add a look of horror frozen on their faces.

I would save that for a horror story

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Lizards...
https://media.oglaf.com/comic/voop.jpg
https://www.oglaf.com/voop/

Agreed it's an improvement

Note: The horns and howl basically say "This is the killer" which might not be the effect you're going for. You might be better with a thin man who could not possibly lift a priest one-handed

Initial thoughts:

As Romano turned the final corner, he felt a chill in the air. He checked a vent. The heat still flowed. He heard rustling from his office. “Hello?”
--A lot of stage direction here; could be simpler / focused on the action rather than the reaction. "Rustle" is a very vague word, that I initially assumed meant paper
A shadowy figure shrouded in swirling fog rushed out, headed for the exit.
--IMO too specific for this early in the story. One wouldn't normally ell "stop" to a man-shaped cloud of fog-- most of us would be seeking an exit.
“You there. Stop!”
The intruder looked in Romano’s direction. More beast than man, it had curved horns and glowing red eyes. It let out a demonic howl that sent a chill down the father’s spine.
--Again, perhaps a bit strong for the early part. Specifically the horn. Use of sound is good, but you'd have just as much effect if it's just feral breathing
The end of the corridor filled with fog until the figure could no longer be seen. Romano summoned his courage and charged into the mist, but the intruder was gone. Only fog and ice-cold air remained, both of which dissipated quickly.
Romano’s heart pounded. He checked the doors, but they were locked, per usual at night. He ran into his office and grabbed a bottle of holy water from his desk, then rushed out and sprinkled it across the doors and floor while praying for protection of the orphanage.
He returned to his office to see what the intruder might have taken. Everything looked as he had left it except the Eucharistic Adoration schedule was missing — the one that showed which boys were assigned to the chapel and at what times. Romano dialed 113 for the Polizia di Stato. He would tell them it was someone in a costume to avoid sounding crazy, but he had to act. One or more of the boys might be at risk.
--His reactions to a ball of mist in his office seem practiced

most writers heavily underestimate the name count in their own work. I think that's because we know our cast so well, it becomes second nature to parade them.

In Project L, I've taken great pains to keep the cast down to 4 names for the first 8 chapters (Others are just X's uncle or Y's maid). However there's already a named horse and a named city, so there's 6. Horse shares a name with a character from chapter 9-ish, so it shouldn't have to count. I've also had to use tricks such as excessive "my-lord" and "my-lady" to evade adding names. Laura's home demesne isn't even named - he merely says she's "...from afar..."..

Ah, the webs we weave

"Duke" doesn't even satisfy the uniqueness rule in that world. "The duke..." heh

To see how incorrect it is, simply trade the clauses for simpler verbs:

The Duke nodded, walked, skipped.

re exclamation marks, I've come to the realization that some writer's works are more sedate than others, and their characters frequently never have to yell. For example, some stories will never have two characters across the engine room of a sinking, burning ship, yelling instructions to each other. It's hard to get through a page of that and not have 4-5 exclamation marks

oh no... what have I created? o.o

(3e) toss a few shared memories when Athens and Oxford are netflix/chilling to explain why she's eager to get back

Why hasn't he married?

Here's the first thing that popped into my mind...

--- begin scene ---

Male half (D) of detective pair gets a call from his wife (W). She's drunk. She's at a party. Female half (C) overhears his side of the convo

(D) (On phone) Come on hun. You know how you get like this. Get a taxi. Right now, before you lost your sense of-- (listens) I know I-- (listens) wtf, have you heard nothing I've said? (stares at phone blankly as if hung up on)
(C): Discreet silence, pretends interest in paperwork)
(D) (Hangs up) Sighs heavily
(C) (Grabs coat) Come on. I'll drive
(D) We shouldn't. The case--
(C) --is five days old. It's not going anywhere. If your wife drives tonight, we both know what could happen

--scene break to car --
[Cue drizzle, because rain is kinda passé. Dim lights. Uncaring street. Occasional overhead light. Wiper noise at regular intervals]
(D) (watching wipers) Back and forth. Justice and crime. Think we'll ever win?
(C) I try not to ask myself such questions...
(blah blah we can slip in a discussion about the not-so-interesting case while the greater tension of the meeting with the drunk wife propels the reader -- think of Tia who carries her acceptance/rejection letter around for 3 chapters until the reader is about ready to burn the book/tablet unless she opens it)

--end scene outside ritzy club. Feel free to add suspicious bouncer type That (C) or (D) recognizes from among the house staff, but runs away when called out. After some hijinks they corner him and he dies randomly by getting run over (Taken, Movie) or flower pot to the head from 3rd floor--

(For your preusal, here's a crack at it using an antagonist to drive the scene)

Campagna sat back in her chair and rifled through crime scene reports. She had stopped counting after processing her twelfth box on day three. De Rosa sat at a facing desk, reviewing security footage. He would celebrate completed videos by crumpling a sheet of paper into a ball and attempting a free throw into the trash by the door. One rolled up to the foot of a man who came to stand in the doorway.

Campagna frowned at the stranger. “Yes? May I help you?”

“Stephanos. I’m with the Tribune.”

She rose. “You’re press? How did you get–”

“Heard you were asking staff about a certain time and place. Something significant?”

She groaned inwardly, but had dealt with enough of his kin to think on her feet. “There’s been an injury.”

“An injury? Or a casualty?” Stephanos had his hands in his pockets and a relaxed look to his face, but he was probably scrambling to add up minutae. “Staff, perhaps? A maid?”

“Ongoing investigation. Questioning staff is routine procedure. Don’t get too excited.”

“If you say so."

"I do. Now with all due respect, get out of my office or I’ll have you escorted out.”

She breathed a sigh of relief as he left. If he managed to divine that the church had allowed the other victims to be exhumed, he’d surely catch wind of anxiety.

She had a short time to crack the case, and the only connection was three dead clerics in one week.

Campagna sat back in her chair and rifled through crime scene reports. She had stopped counting after processing her twelfth box on day three. De Rosa sat at a facing desk, reviewing security footage. He would celebrate completed videos by crumpling a sheet of paper into a ball and attempting a free throw into the trash by the door. He had yet to make a single shot.

She mulled over the case in her head. The fact that the Church had allowed the other victims to be exhumed for autopsies suggested deep unease.

Just standard procedure, she had told the neighbors during interviews to keep the press in the dark. A few reporters were sniffing around nonetheless, asking leading questions.

The crime scene had yielded neither prints nor usable DNA. A murderer had entered Vitale’s apartment, perhaps murderers, given the strength required to pull the cardinal up and tie the rope.

Support workers, including maintenance staff, maids, doormen, and concierges all claimed to have seen nothing unusual. The lodgings of the victims had no staff in common to pin a motive to.

The only connection so far was three dead clerics in one week.

194 words, down from 438. But I like your idea of dialogue

Campagna sat back in her chair and rifled through one of many folders from one of many evidence boxes ["many" repeated here. Also, we don't need to know it's from an evidence box - the rest of the scene leave little doubt she's working on a crime] . She had stopped counting after processing her twelfth box on day three [Might be over-precise; like mentioning it was folder #58]. De Rosa sat at a desk facing hers ["hers" not needed (it's not going to be facing somewhere else, given the layout.] reviewing [days’ worth of (implied)] security footage [from around the residences where the three clerics had lived (implied]. He [had taken to celebrating (would celebrate)] completed videos by crumpling a sheet of paper into a ball and attempting a free throw into the trash by the door. He had yet to make a single shot.

[So far, neither she nor De Rosa had come up with any clues, and she was beginning to doubt the answer lay in endless stacks of paper. (implied)]

[She mulled over the case in her head. With the permission of the Church, the bodies of Cardinal Ferraro and Bishop Rivera had been exhumed and were, like Cardinal Vitale, in the process of being autopsied. The fact that the Church had allowed the bodies to be exhumed suggested they were worried about something. (Could be thinned - this paragraph dances around the topic)]

She and De Rosa had canvassed nearby residences to see if anyone had seen or heard anything [around the time of the clerics’ estimated times of death (implied)]. Just standard procedure, they had told the neighbors to minimize the chance of anyone alerting the press. A few reporters were sniffing around nonetheless, asking the Vatican uncomfortable questions.

The forensic analysis [of the carpet under Cardinal Vitale’s body (Not needed - they would have checked the doors and windows too, right?)]  found no footprints or usable DNA except those of the cardinal, Father Coppola, and the paramedics. Dusting for prints had proved equally unhelpful [This is a repeat concept]. [Somehow, a murderer had entered Vitale’s apartment and hung the cardinal without leaving a shred of evidence that anyone else had been there. (ascertained earlier in story)] It would have required great strength to pull the cardinal up half a foot from the chair, then tie the rope to the chandelier. Although Father Coppola couldn’t be ruled out entirely as a suspect, he didn’t appear to have the strength to do that by himself. More than likely, there were two killers involved.

The buildings in question were supported by a variety of [workers (this should be the main noun and not "the building")], including maintenance staff, maids, doormen, and concierges. No one claimed to have seen anything unusual, although the killers could have been among them. [Or, (juxtaposition unclear but consistent at least, to character's musings)]  someone could have waited for one of the doormen to leave his station, perhaps for a bathroom break, and sailed right through. There was also no known link between the staff at Vitale’s apartment building and those of the lodgings of Cardinal Ferraro and Bishop Rivera at Domus Sanctae Marthae inside the Vatican. The only connection so far was three dead clerics in one week.

Many repeat concepts, such as paragraph 2 "So far, neither she nor De Rosa had come up with any clues..." which need not exist because it it implied by the later paragraphs.

and "With the permission of the Church, ... The fact that the Church had allowed "

I took a whack at it and got it from 438 words to 200

Yes... you can still buy one-time installs of Office, but MS is not exactly forthcoming about the link. You may have to get their customer-care experts to provide it

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This massmarket book I just finished working through, the antagonists really brought their A-game. They caught a protagonist maid stealing food for her sick child or some such. Now, the law says thieves lose a hand, so the antagonists not only get out an axe and whack her, they make the protagonists watch.

I'm not suggesting anything this gruesome for Stella, but being a little mean should provoke a nice bit of outrage. Not too much tho or it'll turn into the trope of the master who mistreats his servants. Even something as simple as talking as if she doesn't exist would work

Dirk B. wrote:
Kdot wrote:

you should remove everything after /ref= so that Amazon cannot track how users are arriving at your story (which may negatively impact your reviews)

Why would that negatively impact reviews? It's still a link to Amazon from a reputable site. They get their cut if someone buys.

In the unlikely event you should get a number of reviews from the same link, Amazon may accidentally flag them as shills. I don't believe it's common, but why lose your valuable reviews?

you should remove everything after /ref= so that Amazon cannot track how users are arriving at your story (which may negatively impact your reviews)

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That doesn't sound like much time for the story to "bake"