Topic: Maiden and other stuff

Hello.

Well, this is an interesting place. Makes sense I guess to open threads like this for further discussion and what not. So I think I'll pull a chair up to the table!

I guess I should drop something of import to make this post a legit post. So, I will be focusing on Maiden for the time being. While I do have more of Sister Bevenlee and Mother of Pox done wrote up, I want to get a full first draft of Maiden out before the end of February. (Which means I should be writing insteada posting, but whatevs.) Still got a lot of story to tell, but I think I can do it. Maiden's been a project ten years in the making. High time I got at least a full draft done did up to see if continuing is worthy of the time. I think it is, and the story does have the potential for another. But a full draft will tell me rightly or wrongly.

Anyway, happy to be here!

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Cool. Now I can reach my whole audience of three remaining reviewers when I post in this forum. :-)

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Welcome home:-)

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Norm d'Plume wrote:

Cool. Now I can teach my whole audience of three remaining reviewers when I post in this forum. :-)

Who's the other one? lol

Welcome seabrass! I just peek in every now and again to make sure that *looks at Dirk* some people behave. This is definitely a great group!!!

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"teach" should have been "reach" - I should have taken typing 20 and 30 in high school, rather than henpecking keystrokes in my old age.

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Well, despite my best intentions, I'm returning to form.

No matter what I'm working on, no matter any deadlines I might be staring at, I'm simply not writing all that much during the month of February. This is happening with my current work, Maiden. It happened with my previous novel, In Possession of N-ergy. And it happened pretty much with all of my other works. I can't recall a February in recent memory where I've actually been productive with my writing.

Maybe I should designate February as my month to edit. I know I can do that on a daily basis. A good break like that would not only help me get a work closer to publication, but would probably stir up my creative juices, so when I did return to writing, the words would come gushing out. I think that'll be the plan for next year!

Anyone else have times where the routine just gets all shot to hell?

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I plod away at pretty much all my chapters. Right now I'm having trouble finishing my edits to Galaxy Tales because the research for Rise of the Unholy Trinity is like a siren's song. One hundred pages of notes and counting. And tax season is now upon me, so I'm about to put everything else on hold.

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You slowing down is a good thing for me since I need a chance to catch up on reviewing your story.

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Well, just posted two tonight to finish off Chapter 9. Got a spur in me jangles!

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Read and acknowledged. I owe you reviews.

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In answer to your question from the review, I'm still planning on editing the last 12 chapters of Into the Mind of God, so I can leave it in decent shape for when or if I come back to it into the future. Depends on how long the new trilogy takes.

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I think it's always the best way to go to leave a work in some sort of 'finished' state, be it a full draft, an outline, a treatment, or a synopsis. Makes it easier to pick up later. I think you've gotten a full draft out at least, so you're ahead of the game in that regard.

Maiden was one such story. I started it years ago, got eleven chapters in, then put it aside. After my last manuscript, I dusted Maiden off, thought some things through, and I'm deeper into it now than before. But that original foundation is still woven through the current draft, so all was not lost.

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Speaking of... where's the next chapter?

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Norm d'Plume wrote:

In answer to your question from the review, I'm still planning on editing the last 12 chapters of Into the Mind of God, so I can leave it in decent shape for when or if I come back to it into the future. Depends on how long the new trilogy takes.

Interesting. time to bump them higher up on the dance card

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Kdot wrote:

Interesting. time to bump them higher up on the dance card

Bzzt. Chapter 30's been up for weeks.

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Assuming this is your thread, not just about Maiden. Just finished NIT. What a work of genius!

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Lynne Clark wrote:

Assuming this is your thread, not just about Maiden. Just finished NIT. What a work of genius!

Well, glad you liked it but I wouldn't go that far... Genius! Twas a good spurt of writing.

Anyway, thank you, and don't spend all them credits in one place!

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well, genius is as genius does. I needed some credits tbh, but I don't like reviewing stuff I don't enjoy. It feels quite wrong. So I only review work I like, in case I can help a bit. Yours didn't even need that much help tbh, so I feel a tad guilty nicking your points.

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Feel free to earn points on my stuff!

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I've had a chance to peek at chainsaw. Holy points, Batman! Aside from that, you seem comfortable in the style, which is very different style from the Warden story I remember. Impressive range.

Only read the first scene in detail, so I can't justly leave a review.

re the NIT I have reached the insight I was seeking

**************** SPOILER SPACE **********************






I've been comparing the MC to my "evilest good guy". [J e n n a] kills her sister along with her enemies in an elevator. Reviewers were upset, of course. J3nn does it by accident because she hates her enemies. Nit does her evil also by accident because she hates her enemies. The parallels are difficult to ignore.

Where the two characters break pattern is in foreshadowing. It's established in chapter 1 that J3nn has taken lives, and she's consistently evil by nicking things, lying, back-stabbing. That element is not present in the Nit (Her beating up computer mice & answering machines doesn't count - it makes her an angry person but not a murderer).

I shall compare it to Ned Stark. Let's put his approval rating at 80% as-is. If Stark gets angry at something and punches a window or similar inanimate object, his approval rating would probably drop to 79% (This is the equivalent of the mouse). Stark, angry, but in cold, calculating blood, strangles Arya to death. Approval rating plummets.

As a dramatic story, there is a disconnect I can't resolve. If you're going for that, consider foreshadowing it. During the phone call, the sister could mention the family pet MC has killed. Basically make sure not one reader can assign her the good-guy trait. Once a character gets in that slot, the fall from grace really hurts the narrative.

If you're going for any other genre, like noir or crime etc, I wouldn't change a thing - it's perfect as is.

Nb: part of this is I work in technology. I see a lot of people all but hurl mice at walls. I think they're mad that Word deleted their perfect paragraph. I never think they abuse people. If MC would go downstairs, find a car that doesn't belong to her, and smash the headlights and windows, this would have been good foreshadowing. Someone able to break an inanimate object that doesn't belong to them is so far out of the "good person in desperate need of help" slot that the ending resolves well.

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Hello, kdot.

Well, she does yell at poor old Ms. Lawson, the upstairs neighbor. Maybe I can have Gina thinking about going upstairs to give her a whack or two.

I don't know if I shared this, but I was considering adding a couple wee paragraphs explaining how she's getting over probably a bout of influenza passed on to her by a delivery driver-- she remembers him coughing, sweating, looking like shit, and he sneezes on her-- and with her sore throat, have her wonder if she has strep throat, which she seems to get every year (but this month? Last month? What month is it? Certainly not April, that's for sure). Those together would account for her headaches, sore throat, body aches, fever, chills, sweating. I did originally intend to add those, but just plum forgot, honestly. I think adding those would help a bit.

Don't forget, though, Gina's not all there. Her inner logic drives her, and it's pretty consistent, as warped as it is. So her whacking her sister at the end falls right into line with her processes. There's no real good guy/bad guy here. Just giving the reader a glimpse into her descent. Adding the strep throat and lingering flu issues might even create more sympathy for her. She's going to find that nit come what may. Taking out her sister will do that for her.

Word sucks. Plain and simple. I use WordPerfect and Scrivener. The only reason I have Word is to post here (Word makes it the most easiest) and to do document notes with others using the mark-up feature. Otherwise, I stay away from Word.

Never read you Jenna story. Didn't know about her violent ways. If there's any similarities, it's purely coincidence.

Think that covers it.

And Chainsaw I think is better than Nit. Just my opinion.

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Hello.

Ran into a small software snafu. Had to repair some chapters of Maiden. All is well now. Will be hard at work on the next chapter. It portends to be a longish one with Scrounger as the POV character. Lots of exposition in this one. I hope to have it posted Friday. Then hopefully another by Monday morning. Switched from the bad software back to using WordPerfect X8.

Thank you for your patience. For my writing, it has not been a good couple of months.

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Which software was the bad software? I'm doing good with LibreOffice, except it loses the spaces sometimes when I post here, making my postsalllookasifiamwritingTwitterhashtags

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Lynne Clark wrote:

Which software was the bad software? I'm doing good with LibreOffice, except it loses the spaces sometimes when I post here, making my postsalllookasifiamwritingTwitterhashtags

The software I had a sudden and inexplicable problem with was Scrivener for Windows. Somehow the save and make back-up features got all screwy. So I just switched back to WordPerfect and I use Dropbox to save my files so I have access to them wherever I can get internet. Never had an issue with WordPerfect. I think I'll stick to that for my novels.

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I looked at Scrivener once, but couldn't get my head around it. I just write all in one document now, in LibreOffice or Word, then save it into the Dropbox folder on the computer. That uploads it to Dropbox automatically, and I also save to an external Hard Drive every week. I rename and save the main file each month, or if I am making major revisions to a finished part, so I don't lose the old writing. I have files upon files upon files.... all triple backed up.