As Memphis said aptly, I'll be able to help more on the prologue question after I've read the final chapters. This applies to all chapters between.

So, where's the rest of the story? Don't make me have to restart the cattleprod thread

fifty. So many great targets for the killing spree

Believe it or not, the summary doesn't help. It tells me what the book is about, but not /how/ it plans to arrive there. Doesn't specify the order of events in the final three chapters and the culmination of execution.

Therefore in this chapter, I don't know yet which version contributes better

I poked through it. I think I liked the pacing of the previous version better, but I won't know for sure until I read the final chapter so I can see that what the story is looking to accomplish

A simple introduction is really beating you up

Anyway, keep going... I need to see like the first 75% of the story before I can offer anything useful to a chapter 2

Sorry too much "fact" for me first two paragraphs. But take that thought into context that I don't read this genre and have nothing to compare to

Re-red it. I question the presentation of data around the dialogue in question, but I need to factor in the scenes before it and after. The questions in my head are where are the highs in the chapter and where are the lows.  How much do I care about Vitale or is it satisfying that me might get eaten.

If it helps, I followed no such patterns in book 6, bringing in Marsha-1's POV for the first time in like chapter 8, and generally picking whichever POV best fit each scene (as opposed to alternating). Large chunks of the opening chapters had one POV. No one commented on it, so not sure it mattered

No real need for him to tremble unless you have a particular story-wise need

You have arrived at the right place

No never watched or read those

I wish I had a better understanding of the finer points of the genre hmm

figure-eight orbit, making one sun dominant at a time to reduce the difficulties

Yes, being able to turn one sun "off" at a time vastly reduces your headaches, and your story has sufficient "magic" / "science magic" to support it.

You still have a minor issue that two suns will want to orbit themselves (If they were stationary with respect to each other, they'd join up, and who needs that headache?). As a result the planet would have to travel faster on some parts of its orbit -- to stay ahead of the creeping sun. In effect your planet's orbit itself would have to be orbitting to stay out of the path of the sun. Now, the planet moving its entire orbit is possible if you introduce mass that will upset the balance. But of course, the question becomes how is that mass moving around to move the orbit where it needs to be.

Fun stuff!

Eh. A story set in Italy that Americanizes the culture for me might as well be set in Little Italy, New York. Audrey voice: "You can dooo eeeet"

In related news, Project L which is set in Earth Prime (eg our Earth) I'm really enjoying the writing process because it has terms like "midnight" and "o'clock". You wouldn't believe how awful it is to write around time references.

On the other hand, it's taught me (forced) to learn to downplay time.

A: When are you headed to the masquerade?
B: When the second hour tolls

So awkward! No way for B to answer this without using Earth terminology, so I make sure A doesn't ask with such precision

A: Are you going to the ball?
B: Tonight's? Of course

You've got what njc calls an impossible situation. You'll need to pull out "magic". And by magic I mean either actual magic or sci-fi-magic such as a self-propelled planet. Here's why...

First of all, understand that Earth's orbit is not just because we're spinning around a stellar body, but because the sun is so heavy, it can yank the entire planet around (and several others) like we're a bunch of pebbles

http://www.skyfire.ca/kwan/tnbw/earth-to-sun.jpg

Our sun (and ours is rather tiny as far as suns go) will crush entire planets to dust if they get into the wrong place. And it would easily eat them all if they slowed down too much and "fell".

Your biggest challenge lies here:

http://www.skyfire.ca/kwan/tnbw/earth-to-sun-2.jpg

Where the little sun is attempting to yank your planet out of the grasp of the bigger sun. Your planet cannot survive two suns acting in different directions. It will become an asteroid belt. Each sun will claim a portion of it.

(Actually, the smaller sun probably won't be able to beat the larger sun unless the planet is moving too quickly for the larger sun to hold it (in which case the smaller sun won't be able to hold it either, and your planet will go spinning into deep space. Wheee!))

There are more issues than that, but I picked the largest. Now I wish to turn the question around and ask what the goal is of this orbit. I ask this, so I can suggest something that may accomplish this goal rather than having to use magic

My take is...

a) if you like the prologue, keep it
b) If you're 50/50 on it, dump
c) If you don't like it, carry it to Diane's collider and toss it into someone else's dimension

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but it motivates me to write, is largely what I want to express,

Well I'd say you got the most important parts down pat

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Rachel Parsons wrote:

I've been criticized by one potential publisher as writing humor that lands well but interferes with the serious side. (No examples, of course, were given and that was the occasion of going into self-publishing.) This would be a concern.

Humour getting in the way of the dramatic moment is going to be hard to spot in your own writing by nature as we all have to work to distance ourselves and see our words through another person's eyes. However, I can help by showing you my own mistakes.

When you get time on your hands, consider scene 1 of this v1:
https://www.thenextbigwriter.com/postin … blue-18605
The (roughly) 500 words from the start until she first teleports. During the scene, characters trip over each other, and half-fight, and crack the predictable penis joke. (One character ([G a l i a h])never appears again in the rest of the story which also breaks a writer-reader contract  that if you're going to point out the axe, someone at some point should swing it).

I don't believe there is anything /wrong/ with the v1 approach. But I can certainly get more juice out of it if the characters aren't making fun of themselves. It's kinda hard for the reader to stay in life & death mode if the characters won't take their own situation seriously. She almost need not care about her peril. She says herself "She's leaving to escape the madness" and not primarily because of any implicit danger

In v2 (not posted yet), with the zaniness removed, the MC cannot ignore the reality that she's being hunted by someone faster, stronger, and can who sense her anywhere on the planet. I'll link it here when I get time.

I believe this might be what the publisher was saying. That humour is good but can kill urgency

bonus points if the lover's name is Andrew

Re: Involuntary reactions... as I've hinted before, they don't bother me as a reader, but I don't see them as useful. if a writer could kind of reach out of the book and ask me what I prefer, I'd say I didn't care what the reactions were as much as getting on with the story

involuntary:

Bob saw the rabbit and his eyebrows shot up

Equivalent:

Bob saw the rabbit and was surprised

To me, the above are the same: They both force surprise onto me. It's like an exclamation mark used where there is insufficient context to infer it.

Preferred:

Bob saw the rabbit and drew to a halt, seeking some way to get out of its path

That said, Many mass market high selling authors have sentient body parts. Annette Marie in particular sets records with "My hand reached up to take the letter"and "My feet walked me to the altar" all over the place

Names hidden wrote:

So far, that left Father C, the parish pastor, as the only individual with no confirmed alibi. Aside from the killer or killers, he was the last person to see V alive, the one who reported him missing, and the one who found his grave. C also knew the cemetery staff very well. Clearly the two gravediggers were involved, but who put them up to it? On the face of it, C seemed like a good suspect.

However, he had no obvious motive. The cardinal’s death gave C no clear path for advancement. He wasn’t even a bishop yet. Also, C had been cooperating fully with the investigation. He even consented to have all of his shoes examined for comparison with the footprints lifted from the mud at the gravesite. Still, to be a priest meant he was a very intelligent man and would know not to keep incriminating evidence lying around. Had there been a feud between the two men?

Patched wrote:

Father C followed the agent into the dusty storage room where cabinets seemed to preside in judgement. Inspector C sat behind her desk, and Agent D was hunched over a gritty video feed.
I.C. waved at the wire chair. "Please. Sit. Coffee?"
"Thank you." F.C made himself comfortable. He glanced at the mess of cups but declined. "Makes me too jittery at night"
"Just wanted to ask you a few more questions," said I.C.
"I've already told you everything I know."
"I hope you don't mind if I ask some more."
"Why?"
"You're the last person to see V alive. The one to report him missing. The one who found his grave. You're an important lead."
"Surely you don't think it's me."
"We haven't determined that yet."
"What she means," Agent D drawled, eyes glued to what looked like a camcorder shot, "Is that you're still the best person to help us find the killer."
Fc. Oh, that was a relief. Wait. Were they playing good cop bad cop on him?

Could have a lot of fun with a scene like this. Maybe have them bring up the shoes again. Have the agents note he missed a pair (that he hadn't thought of). Seabrass is famous for hampering the MC too... such as Father C has an ulcer or hasn't eaten or has a tic he worries will make him seem guilty. One of my own tricks is that he's guilty of something unrelated and trying to steer the agents away from it

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Nice

Anyway to continue what I was saying, more eyes = better

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