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(262 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Bobbie, I suggest posting a new thread in Premium describing what kind of formatting problems you're having. You'll get the most advice that way, although not always the best. :-)

If you see new forum posts in your groups list, instead of clicking on the post, click on New Forum Posts. That takes you to a page that gives everything in the forum. From there you can click on the words 'new posts' next to a particular thread. I think that works. It's still a few too many clicks, but you saw what happens when someone makes suggestions for improvements. Vern is particular annoying because he likes to shoot down any changes to the site.

Bobbie, here are some variants of that problem sentence:
Original: "The man, some form of demon, chuckled."
Option 2: "The man -- some form of demon -- chuckled."
Option 3: "The man -- a demon? -- chuckled."

EDIT: I went with option 4: "The man -- surely a demon -- chuckled."

Actually, the fog isn't a problem. This is a supernatural being, not limited by lack of oxygen caused by dry ice. Romano charges into the mist but doesn't pass out, so he's left wondering if it was dry ice or supernatural fog.

Thanks, Bobbie. As Yoda would say, "Meditate on this I will."

Vern, in the time it took you to write that, the thing could already be fixed. And things don't get prioritized if we don't mention them.

Most people do, but i usually remind new members to be sure. Like Bill and I have noted, it's easy to forget and would be a trivial fix.

Sol, would it be possible to have the "Subscribe to this topic" checkbox default to checked? It's one less thing to teach new members and one less thing to forget. I suspect the vast majority of people want to be notified when someone responds to their threads. The rest can always uncheck the default.

Thanks
Dirk

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(1,528 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

In Alberta, the utilities are not a serious problem, but the cable companies could make Comcast look like customer service nirvana. "You are number 91 in the queue. Your approximate hold time is two hours and thirty-five minutes." Fortunately, they do now have callback functionality.

Good to see you're still here, by the way.

The tricky part to work out next is the sleuthing/hunting/chasing to be done to fill half a book. Each death is a scene. The historical conspiracy in the Church archives will fill several scenes. A bunch of false leads will add some more. Security footage is good for at least a scene. There will of course be the obligatory car and foot chases. Reporting to the higher ups will be a scene. The ending will run five or more scenes (that overlap with Connor). I may add the special ops team back in for added tension and action. Add a stake out.

Also, there'll be an early scene where Angelo first introduces Inspector Campagna to Connor at the orphanage before the kid leaves for the Holy Land with Romano. Connor looks suspiciously like what Campagna's stolen baby might look like at age fourteen. Of course, according to chapter one, Connor was almost killed in a car accident that took his parents' lives, so could he really be her son?

I decided that my six suicides will not be obviously supernatural at first. I want the detectives to come to that realization slowly, even though the reader knows from the book's description that the Antichrist is stalking Connor and the Church. I found a cool Satanic symbol online that is actually an old Colgate-Palmolive logo. I'm thinking each victim has a ring on with that logo instead of a traditional cardinal's or bishop's ring. Rolled up within the logo are what could be three inverted sixes, although you have to really want to see it.

Plans within plans.

I think I've finally got it. All the deaths are suicide by various means caused by sheer terror at the prospect of going to hell. They came to believe that Satan was coming for their souls and that suicide would save them from that. Everything from poisoning, hanging, jumping off a bridge, etc. A little gruesome, but there will only be a total of six deaths. Maybe the first one simply kneeling in prayer, who died from actual terror without having to commit suicide. The centuries-old secret conspiracy then is a bunch of unexplained suicides of senior clerics, which of course is a ticket to hell unless you have a good excuse (e.g., fear of suffering). I like the circular reasoning of this.

I can die happily now. I think I'll go bury myself.
Dirk

Kdot, what's your opinion of my supernatural entity being able to change shape at will between demonic fog, the dark figure with glowing red eyes, human, and one other yet to be revealed? Basically he's a shape shifter and can take on whatever form he wishes. I plan to limit it to about four different forms, one of which doesn't appear until the end of the book.

Thoughts?

That's great. Thank you, Seabrass.

I'm wondering what others think of my use of pronouns in the following excerpt from my WIP:

Romano said, “Connor, you’d better run along. Eucharistic Adoration is on hold until we can secure that door.”
Nnamani told him, “I’ve enjoyed hearing about your pilgrimage, Connor. I suspect we’ll meet again.”
Connor smiled.
Nnamani blessed him and he left. The cardinal then told Romano, “I’m going to assign two experienced exorcists to the orphanage, Father. Their role will be to protect him from further threats."

There are two pronouns that are technically ambiguous as to who I'm referring to. I rely on context to help the reader sort it out. The first could refer to either Romano or Connor. The second could refer to either Nnamani or Connor. Is the context sufficient to sort it out, or should I be more explicit?

Thanks
Dirk

Yes, although they're not pushing for it. It's my choice. Very few of them know I'm writing novels about the End Times.

Yikes! Someone on my Catholic forum quoted a Christian definition of atonement which states that Christ atoned for the sins of all humanity. That almost broke my trilogy. If there's no one left to redeem, then my ending wouldn't have worked. Fortunately, someone else clarified that it was only the righteous who were redeemed.

Thank goodness for sinners.
Dirk

I renamed Cardinal Aristotele Gallo, the Vatican Secretary of State, to Cardinal Akachi Nnamani, a black man from Africa. Too many Italian names in the story. Akachi means God's hand.

Hmm. One option for the kneeling/praying position of the deceased is glue. The glue would hold them in position until rigor sets in. That would give me a non-supernatural solution that delays the recognition of the crimes as being supernatural. The autopsies would find that the deaths were due to terror, but that still doesn't confirm it as supernatural. If you read scene 2.2, there remains a semi-plausible explanation for the dark figure with red eyes and fog on the streets outside Cardinal Vitale's building, and for the fog in the hotel hallways of the other two dead clerics. The first real confirmation that something supernatural is going on is in the chapel when the fog attacks Connor. It's Cardinal Gallo, the Secretary of State, who puts it all together (the autopsies, the attack on Connor, the dark figure, and the omnipresent fog).

Also this. Emphasis mine.

What other emotional states besides fear could lead to these fatal heart rhythms?
Any strong positive or negative emotions such as happiness or sadness. There are people who have died in intercourse or in religious passion.

One woman died while watching The Passion of the Christ in the theaters. Who knows, maybe J.J. Abrams will kill a few Star Wars fans from rapture.

Interesting.

A Charlotte, N.C., man was charged with first-degree murder of a 79-year-old woman whom police said he scared to death. In an attempt to elude cops after a botched bank robbery, the Associated Press reports that 20-year-old Larry Whitfield broke into and hid out in the home of Mary Parnell. Police say he didn't touch Parnell but that she died after suffering a heart attack that was triggered by terror. Can the fugitive be held responsible for the woman's death? Prosecutors said that he can under the state's so-called felony murder rule, which allows someone to be charged with murder if he or she causes another person's death while committing or fleeing from a felony crime such as robbery—even if it's unintentional.

I'm still working on the manner of death for the clerics. Part of the investigation will look backwards through several centuries of suspicious deaths recorded in secret Vatican archives. However, I think I need at least another three deaths after the first three.

I believe I have a workable cause of death: sheer terror. No physical violence. I'm reading up on physiological changes that happen in the body in response to fear, and they're quite extensive. I'll amp up the blood test results to the extreme end of the fear spectrum. I don't know if a person can die from terror directly, or if they simply have a heart attack or stroke caused by fear. Probably one of the latter.

I'm thinking all of the bodies will be frozen by rigor mortis while kneeling, hands together in prayer. Naturally, that position should be impossible since a dead body can't hold that pose long enough for rigor to set in. I considered giving them an expression of terror on their faces with eyes wide, but I think most religious people who know they're about die would close their eyes and pray. There will be a smell of blood, because some condemned prisoners are known to sweat blood when they're about to die; there are about a hundred documented cases, although I still need to verify that (Jesus may have sweat blood at Gethsemane). I'll reread my sources to see if there are other outward signs of fear.

Thoughts?

Hmm. Bookbaby just sent out a mailer that two of the biggest Christian bookstore chains have/are closing all of their stores. That puts a bit of a dent in my plan to target Catholics/Christians with my new books.

I'm still reworking the murder mystery half of my story, but I definitely need more murders than the first three. One of the reasons they send Connor to the Holy Land is to satisfy some skeptical members of the Pope's Council that he's not responsible for the deaths. So the deaths must continue when he is gone. The deaths are also necessary because the killer wants to maneuver his minions into positions of power. He's been doing it quietly for centuries, but now that he's almost ready to seize control, he wants to terrorize the remaining  Church's leaders.

I'm hoping Rey's mother turns out to be Mara Jade and that Luke never knew he was her father. That would clean up some of the canon, and it would help explain her extraordinary powers. I also love that you hear Palpatine's cackle at the end, although that could be just for the trailer. I think I may have mentioned in a previous post, Disney has added to the canon that Palpatine is Anakin's father, so he's Kylo's great grandfather.