You won't care about Vitale at this point. It's his first appearance in the book. He featured well in the original (long) version of this scene, but that gave too much away. He features prominently as a dead man in scenes to come. I'd hate to have to write a whole filler chapter, though, just to introduce him properly. It would drag. Nevertheless, there's something to be said about caring for the character (even a little) before killing him. Whatever I do here I'll also do for the other three cardinals I plan to kill off.

Scene 0.0 is Connor saving the tour group in the Holy Land (the prologue)
Scene 1.1 is Connor curing the epileptic kid and the first appearance of the dark being
Scene 1.2 is this one.
Scene 1.3 is Connor and the epileptic kid becoming friends
Scene 1.4 is Campagna & De Rosa discovering Vitale's body in the nearby grave

How about "Tsk. Where are my manners? Allow me to introduce myself."

In my most recent chapter (the half page scene), Bobbie suggested I try to find something more memorable for the dark being to say besides "Allow me to introduce myself." Below is the part in question.

A dark being stood a few feet away. Light barely penetrated to his face or clothes, as if he was shrouded in deep shadows where none existed.
Vitale frowned and struggled to stand. “Who are you?”
Allow me to introduce myself.” The ground shook, the crucifix behind the altar crashed to the floor, and the stained-glass windows exploded inward. The temperature plummeted and the lights dimmed. Fog swirled around the being and his eyes glowed fiery red.

I wanted something understated/polite compared with the destruction (and killing) that follows, but I'm open to other options. Anyone have any suggestions for something better?

Thanks
Dirk

You're right. Thanks.

Cool. Thank you. Now I just have to figure out how to bundle my chapters. :-)

So now that I've punted scene 1.2 (Cardinal Vitale killed by the Antichrist), I have three back-to-back scenes with Father Romano/Connor as follows:

- 0.0 Prologue - Connor saves the tour group in the Holy Land from the locusts
- 1.1 Connor cures Alessandro's epilepsy
- 1.2 Cardinal Vitale is killed by the Antichrist (deleted)
- 1.3 Connor and Alessandro share breakfast and become friends

I've been trying to alternate between Father Romano/Connor scenes and Inspectors Campagna/De Rosa scenes. I wrote Vitale from his own POV, but considered it part of the murder mystery.

Does it matter that I have three opening Romano/Connor scenes (spanning two chapters and 13 pages) in a row? Campagna and De Rosa don't appear until the last scene (1.4, 7 pages) of chapter one when Vitale's body is discovered.

I'm considering adding a one-page scene in place of 1.2 where the Antichrist enters the Church and confronts Vitale, but ending it before the killer reveals who he is. I could re-use that same approach for the other three killings.

Cardinal Aristotele Vitale sat alone, praying before the high altar of Basilica Papale di San Lorenzo fuori le Mura, his titular church in Rome. Father Coppola, the parish pastor, had already left for the night, locking the doors behind him.
Heavy footsteps approached Vitale from behind. He waited, thinking Coppola had returned. “Did you forget something, Father?”
A sonorous male voice said, “Good evening, Your Eminence.”
The cardinal turned.
A dark being stood a few feet away. Light barely penetrated to his face or clothes, as if he was shrouded in deep shadows where none existed. He was tall, with a large build.
Vitale frowned and struggled to stand. “Who are you?”
“Allow me to introduce myself.” The temperature dropped considerably, the lights dimmed, fog swirled around the being, and his eyes glowed red.

I could also end scene 1.2 right after he says "Good evening, Your Eminence."

Thoughts?

Snow? My X-Ice tires laugh at snow. Bring it on!

Depending upon the number of such events/attacks (TBD), I think I'll let his confidence evolve with each miracle. So, if the above scene takes place early on, I'll have him tremble because he doesn't know his own powers. Him struggling with his imperfect faith could be a good character arc for him. If the event takes place later, he'll no longer tremble. I've only begun to figure out how many ways he is attacked, especially in the Holy Land, where he's supposed to be safe from the Antichrist who is still killing cardinals in Rome. There's no way the Antichrist can be doing both, so some think Connor is being hunted by the False Prophet. I wish I could get rid of the latter character from Revelation since his potential presence is complicating the story/mystery.

Unless you've been living under a rock, you know Connor is the focus of my story. He displays an increasing number of supernatural powers as the story progresses (comforting the grieving, healing the sick, casting out demons, etc.). However, he has no knowledge that he may be Jesus returned to Earth as a boy, although Church elders increasingly think it's possible.

My latest prologue is a peek ahead to two weeks after the start of the story, when he is travelling in the Holy Land, retracing the footsteps of Jesus. The scene has him surrounded by frightened members of the Holy Land tour as a demonic swarm of locusts bears down on them. Each locust has a stinger like that of a scorpion, as described in the Book of Revelation (locusts don't naturally have stingers). Connor has yet to realize his full potential, so even he's not yet sure what he can and can't do.

When it comes to the locust attack, I mention that everyone is huddled around Connor, hoping he can save them. Everyone except Connor is trembling. It's the trembling I question. Although he's not yet reached his full potential, he has an unswerving faith in God, and prays for a miracle. Shouldn't he be trembling, too? After all, he's not Christ-like yet.

I'm inclined to have him tremble, in spite of his faith in God. This affects more than just this one event. His powers increase from event to event, increasing his confidence with each miracle.

Thoughts.
Dirk

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Temple Wang wrote:

A period works fine, but if you like a colon, then put a colon and move on or you’ll never get finished.

There's nothing wrong spending a few minutes learning new topics, especially when more experienced writers disagree on the topic.

Thanks!

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I've received conflicting feedback about my use of colons for the following sentences and am wondering if the colon is correct for one, both, or neither.

Connor quietly quoted Scripture: “Then from the smoke came locusts on the earth, and they were given authority like the authority of scorpions of the earth.”

Connor called to the heavens in a loud fearless voice: “Father, our enemies are upon us! Protect us now from the powers of Satan, so we may give you glory all the days of our lives!”

These sentences seem similar to me. In the first one, Connor is quiet and quoting. In the second, he's loud and praying. The only real difference is that the Bible quote is a single sentence, while the prayer is two sentences.

I'm inclined to use the colon for both.

Thoughts?
Dirk

After thinking about it some more (and with encouragement from Seabrass), I decided to completely punt scene 1.2 from the book. The first appearance of Vitale will be as a corpse in scene 1.4. The reader will learn about the Antichrist during the course of the detectives' investigation. I wasted a lot of time writing and rewriting this chapter only to toss it. Poor Temple started her review before I could take the scene down from the Home page. At least she got points.

Here's the message he got:
You must be a writing member to post in this group. A list of advantages for upgrading are given and then an upgrade button. It doesn't allow the upgrade because it says I'm on a 7 day free trial.

Sol, would it be possible to fix inline reviews so that when you double-click on a word you want to comment on it doesn't select that word and the one immediately after it?

Also, a great minor enhancement would be to automatically place the focus in the comment dialogue when selecting something to comment on. One less click for every comment we want to leave.

Does anyone know if trial members have access to the Premium forum? A new user, Nathan Young, is unable to post to it. I've sent a message to Sol, but it someone else knows the answer, please let me know.

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You have two books in your portfolio with the same title, one of which is only available to Basic members. I'm not a member of that group (I'm maxed out at ten), so I can't access it. I'm reviewing the other one. If you plan to keep both, you should probably rename at least one of them to avoid confusion.

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Nuts. I've been reviewing chapter five instead of chapter one. I'm almost done with it, so I'll keep going. There's some stuff I'm highlighting in chapter five that applies generally to all chapters (e.g., punctuation, dialogue tags, internal monologue, etc.). It's funny, I didn't even notice it wasn't your opening chapter. Duh.

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I sent him the message. He'll be in touch, hopefully soon. FYI, since you're a trial member, once the seven days are up, you won't have access to inline reviews, only regular ones. If you plan to stay as a non-paying member for a while, be sure to inform people when your trial is up, otherwise they'll continue to leave inline reviews, and you won't be able to read them.

I'm working my way through your first chapter. Hopefully, I'll have it ready for you later today.

Dirk

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Nathan Young wrote:

I can't seem to login to the premium group. It says I'm on a seven day trial.

I'll send a message to Sol, our administrator. Maybe you're not allowed access to Premium, although that wasn't my understanding.

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I clicked on the link to your story on the Home page. I see you've posted without points. You'll still get some early reviews, but they drop off quickly if you don't post with points. Points are this site's currency and reviewers usually want to get paid for their effort. If you post with points, your reviewers earn points that they use for posting their own stories.

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Welcome to the site.

We tend to use the threads in this forum for brainstorming with other writers, getting help with story and writing issues, and sharing nonsense. Usually one thread per story, but there's no rule about that. FYI, not all of this group's members write fantasy. We needed a semi-quiet place to "meet" outside of Premium, so we ended up here. For example, Kdot writes steampunk, Seabrass writes sci-fi, njc writes fantasy, and I wrote a space opera but have moved on to a supernatural thriller. If you can't get your questions answered here, you can always ask all of the site's members by posting in the Premium forum. Plenty of helpful folks around. Also, feel free to subscribe to any threads that interest you, so you'll receive emails when someone posts to those threads.

When you're ready for your first batch of reviews, put a post in the Premium forum introducing yourself and your story, and asking for reviews. You'll generally get a whole bunch to begin with, but then it's up to you to decide whom you want to trade reviews with on a long-term basis. Don't forget to respond to reviews. People spend various amounts of time reviewing your work, and a response is an acknowledgement of their effort.

After a discussion on my Catholic forum, I decided to revert to the previously planned deaths (buried alive, hanging, ???, and ???). They don't like gruesome deaths, so I'll try to minimize that aspect, but one of the other members of the site reminded me that Revelation is a violent book. Which begs the question: how do I keep a Catholic audience if I do a relatively accurate portrayal of Revelation in my books two and three?

Chapter two now up on the site excludes the cyanide element but adds other changes, including the dark being identifying himself as the Antichrist and a cross-shaped grave. Not much else has changed.

The revised chapter 2 (scene 1.2) of Cardinal Vitale's death by poisoning is up.

In my case, the cardinals have to die because it's the End Times and the Unholy Trinity are trying to conquer the Church from within. Satan has been working on this for decades (or maybe even centuries), moving his minions into positions of power. I plan to make them responsible for the sexual abuse. I'd make him responsible for the Protestant split from Catholicism, but that would piss off Protestants, so I won't be going there.