KHippolite wrote:

No can do. I'm not the writer, and he's been dead for 200 years so he can't read my hate mail

Problem is you have three managers who took over the teather from two managers, and they're trying to disprove the existence of the Phantom.

At this particular point, the new owners... let's call them (A, B, C) are locked away in the office considering writing a letter to the former owners (D, E). Luckily (D, E) are represented by Madame Giry (G) who can't enter the office because (A, B, C)'s assistants (F, H, I, J) are arguming about which of (A, B, C) is lying and which has gone mad because one of A or B or C wants a safety pin and one is walking backwards. Between A, B, C, G one of these four must be lying and the clue trail to finding the culprit lies in the casual words of D, E, F, H, I, J and it's tucked away in that page

I did not get this at first.  You mean Gaston's Leroux's Opera Ghost, which did the amazing: It added a new myth to the canon of Western literature.  Leroux's Mystery of the Yellow Room is likewise a landmark in the history of Mystery.  Both were published, I believe, as newspaper serials, which makes them read awkwardly when you sit down to them as libations and not single shots.

The northernmost railway station of the world ... and the inspiration for Lon Cheney.  The moment when Cheney's Phantom comes into focus unmasked is still good for a chill.

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Did you hit SUBMIT or SAVE?  The SAVE button is on the left and there are many places in the Windoze world where SAVE means SUBMIT, so we are inured to the confusion.

If you open the review from your reviews-given page, you should be able to edit and SUBMIT.  Check the trailing comment to be sure it wasn't cut off.

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I promised to give you the few hundred words on the instruments that Erevain shows Merran and Jamen.  Here's what I've got.

The instrument itself sat atop the wood post.  It was made of a yellow metal, too light to be brass but polished and gleaming like silver.  A sleeve of the metal rested on the post, sized and fluted like a handgrip.  A short shaft rose up from it and split into two sides of a fork.  These flattened out and rose straight up, then bent into hooks.

Between the parallel hooks a ring of the same metal hovered, about a handspan in diameter.  It was flat inside and out like a bracelet; the outer face was not polished but dull, and engraved with numbers and symbols.  These markings were filled with color: red, black, and deep blue.

Two red wires stretched from hook to hook at their ends, framing a short section of the engraved ring--just enough for one full mark to fall into the frame.

The spells on it were done with a precision Merran had never seen, nor had she ever seen so many, or seen them interlocked in such complexity.

She said, "It's beautiful.  I've never seen anything like it.  What is it?"

Erevain beamed.  "We did this for one of the Atlas-makers.  It indicates the strength of the barrier you need to overcome to open a world-crossing.  With this, they can show just how hard a crossing is--and how large the area is as well, by circling out from the center and measuring how the barrier rises."

He grew serious again.  "This is the first one we built, and it worked perfectly almost from the start.  We expected to get orders for several dozen, maybe more.  Then, when Nikkano was ready to deliver it, it stopped working.  The readings became erratic."

The first instrument was a work of beauty to sorsight and eyesight alike.  This one was made of heavy brass wire and thin tin sheet.  Four lengths of the heavy wire ran out like long feet.  They joined together into a center post about two handspans high.  A beam or yoke of wire, about half the device's height, was balanced in a hook at the top.  At each end, a longer yoke was balanced perpendicular to the first, and at the ends of these long yokes, more short yokes linked and balanced with each other to support strips sheet tin, which hung with their long ends parallel to the long yokes, three on each side of the center post.

It looked like the work of a talented, bored child.

The spells on it were another matter.  They lacked the elegant intricacy of the first instrument, but they were executed with almost breathtaking precision, balanced against one another in a pattern that almost-but-not-quite matched the linkages of wire above.  The slightest disturbance in the Elemental Fire surrounding them would set the whole thing quivering.  And as Merran leaned in for a closer look, the residue of Fire she carried did just that.

"Oh!  I'm sorry!"

"That's quite all right," Erevain said.  "If your Fire didn't disturb it, your breath would have.  If we built this to sell, or for serious use, we would have put it in a glass case.  Not that the problem isn't serious."

This instrument was set in the center of the big table, as far from disturbances as possible.  A strip of brass the length and width of Merran's forearm lay on the table, its long edges bent halfway up to make a shallow trough.

Above it, a dozen or more gold disks hovered on edge.  Their faces had curious markings on them, not quite familiar.  At the edges, their circumferences were divided by short and long lines in the same blue and red that they had seen in the crossing-barrier gauge, as well as a lighter, greenish blue.

Jamen squinted at the disks.

"Yes," Erevain said.  "Gold coins, flattened out.  We could have used crystal, but gold is easier to work and less valuable."

Merran examined the spellwork--as best she could.  The workings of Elemental Fire--if that's what it was--were only half-visible to her sorsight.  The spells seemed to fade away in one place and reappear in another.

Erevain said, "This took Nikkano and me working together, and we just barely made it work.

"I've done so much of the building in the last few years that I'm actually more precise than Nikkano.  But I've never seen some of what he came up with here, and I'm still not sure exactly how it all works."  He motioned them to move around to the end of the table.

"Here, sight along the edges of the disks, so that you can see the scale marks on each disk, one past the other."  He moved out of the way for Merran and Jamen.  "You see?"

Merran asked, "What are we seeing?"

"You're seeing time malfunction."

To answer Amy's Q? on my review: Not too much reveal, but moving quickly in the first scene will help in the second.

The idea that Kha's lover is not just one of the self-sacrificing servants of Behira but NAMED and KNOWN is, as K would put it, Sauce Awesome.  I wonder if she uses the dimunitive to keep from being known.

janet reid wrote:
njc wrote:

I didn't mean to suggest I was working out in the cold.  I was slumming.

I was purely referring to the writing 6-7 paragraphs and ending with effectively one at the end. smile

No, that's Improvement, Epic, Need of.

janet reid wrote:
njc wrote:

Okay, I'm working on Amy's review.  As to my own work ... I spent yistre'en busting two month's budget, sitting in the cold for six hours.  Sitting, standing, walking, but mostly sitting.

Otherwise, I've been tied up with some physical details.  ...

This is dedication. I'm positive it will pay off in the long the run.

I didn't mean to suggest I was working out in the cold.  I was slumming.

janet reid wrote:

... faster than what K can get rid of ear wax. ...


Now you've got inspiration for some mannerisms: a guy who often worms around in his ear with his pinky.  Or a lower-class woman ...

Okay, I'm working on Amy's review.  As to my own work ... I spent yistre'en busting two month's budget, sitting in the cold for six hours.  Sitting, standing, walking, but mostly sitting.

Otherwise, I've been tied up with some physical details.  I'll try to post something tonight.  Not chapters, just some paragraphs here.  Know that for every paragraph posted, I've rewritten or cut away six or seven ... and worked on inner logic.

And we've hijacked poor EF's thread!  I hope her dragons don't sugger from earwax! smile

KHippolite wrote:

To re-use my prior analogy, no matter how much earwax you scoop out, there's always more waiting for its turn in the limelight.

And I've got this picture of cavernous, pea-soup green ears with earwax oozing out in a slow-motion avalanche.   sad

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(Tally mark in the dust ...)

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Memphis Trace wrote:

Dumbass is my genre.
Memphis

That sounds so much more impressive if you write "Dumbass is my metier."

Or put his earwax in the limelight.

You seem to think of a character as a firework on which you lavish thousands of hours of work, just to have the whole thing shoot off in a few seconds.  A character arc doesn't HAVE to be ballistic.  Your leading men and women don't have to be shooting stars.

janet reid wrote:
KHippolite wrote:

Gotta have a saloon

... with swinging doors and half-dressed serving wenches.

Set it during the Wars of the Roses.  Whiskey and brandy are still a few centuries off, though.  I don't know about ten-gallon hats.

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Elisheva Free wrote:

Most of the time, when you're reading a novel, each chapter establishes the scene, even if it's the same scene as the previous chapter. In my mind, a chapter is a "stopping point". So, from a reader's perspective, could I read up to that stopping point, put the book down for a week, come back and continue right where I left off? Not so much. Of course, I'm an extremely forgetful person, but still...

The easiest way to insert some description would be to put a foundation at the beginning, where you're talking about the wolves, and elaborate on that foundation with little snippets in between the dialogue.

Fair enough.

Elisheva Free wrote:

As always, IMO and YMMV. smile-Elisheva

I laughed aloud.  Thanks!

If you don't mind picking up in the middle, the chapter Mellaen's Work sets up a longish sequence.  And the first few chapters do stand up in their present form (though I'm contemplating reviewers' suggestions).

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Not quite on topic, but you might enjoy An Exultation of Larks.

A writer of the time called Christopher Wren's then-new St. Paul's Cathedral "both artificial and awful."  In the usage of the time, it was high praise.

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Thanks.  You've hit points nobody else has.  I'll have to think about them.  A little more description wouldn't hurt, but I want to keep it light.  The previous chapters in the thread should give a lot of the picture.

One down, about 80 to go?

The mechanic knows you have to tighten the bolts in the right order.  The engineer knows why the right order is the right order.

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Of course I do ... so back to the prose mines ... smile

janet reid wrote:

But seriously, I have an epic rant or three in the Romance Group going where I'm ripping books apart. It hasn't been that way before I joined this site and is only getting worse. It's gotten so bad I don't even finish them anymore ...

Oh dear!  Have I made of you a participle partisan?

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Not giving points is definitely a bug.  The logic shoulld follow from an invariant: points from the first review (completed, that qualifies for points).  Incomplete reviews should not claim the point 'token' unless it can be taken by the next review started.

Begin with the invariants.  From the invariants, develop explicit policies that will maintain the invariants.  Express the policies as explicit rules on the operations supported.  Implement the rules as actions in the appropriate places.

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Just did a bunch of reviews and made some edits to the Erevain/Nikkano sequence.  Not as much as I wanted, but I have to do some imagining now ... and all sorts of other things (as above) want to be heard and written down.

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I expect to take delivery tomorrow of an expensive box of parts for Rolodex-like notebooks.  I'll have to begin moving my permanent notes in there, writing full character sheets, putting my 300+ theme and plot notes on insert tabs, ... all stuff that takes time.  (And I might not have ordered enough of the insert tabs.)  I'll even be trying to draw a few of the characters.
But for the moment, I'm still working on the Erevain chapters, and in particular on the flashback.  I've already retitled the version that's in place Nikkano.  I've got little descriptions to do, and the sequence of Nikkano scrying, which I might weave into the new monologue he gives Erevain.
And all sort of things keep trickling into my head about future scenes and large plot arcs.  I need to do an awful lot there, too.
Your patience is appreciated.  Much appreciated.

And all of that very expensive.  But the cost of the sets gets spread out some across the episodes.

A spreadsheet is a poor substitute for a database.