heh
726 2018-03-22 23:17:38
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
727 2018-03-22 09:33:39
Re: How to Breathe Underwater (trilogy: Lessons in Skills for Life) (197 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Not so much "elaborate" as give us that slight moment to dread what's about to happen. 10-50 words range. Maybe less for now.
1. Keeps us "live" with the character (instead of the newsreel: "Here's what happened 30 seconds ago"
2. tension (as mentioned above)
3. Pathos
Bonus points if the character has to leave an unstarted breakfast behind
728 2018-03-21 13:24:33
Re: How to Breathe Underwater (trilogy: Lessons in Skills for Life) (197 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
thanks NJ, problem is, I had all that in the earlier version, but no teenager liked it, it was just toooooo slow and full of info. So this time, I am dumping them into the middle of something happening, they don't know what, or why, or what the world is about, they have to read on to get all that.
Yep... Sorry, I meant "a few words trickled into the action". Too many, and all that yummy tension will leak out. I'd say max 1 sentence of backdrop per sentence of tension. Spend a paragraph explaining backdrop and readers will leak away. It's safe to do once you've engaged them (maybe in a chapter 3 or a 4).
You have the tension in/about the right place as is... I'm just saying you skipped that nice moment of dread where the character has been summoned to the principal's office.
729 2018-03-20 23:29:53
Re: How to Breathe Underwater (trilogy: Lessons in Skills for Life) (197 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
This version is much sharper than the original. Some food for thought (I post it here because I don't want to collect points for only reviewing a paragraph).
Consider:
So, she had run all the way, arriving breathless with no idea why Cantrain wanted her.
You've mentally skipped an important scene here. You already visualize the character in the destination room and are hurrying us past the walk to get there.
But that movement is extremely useful because it tells us so much about her.
a. How much does she dread about that meeting?
b. What does her world look like?
c. How does she interact with her environment?
d. Is she guilty of something the meeting will being about?
e. What time of day is it (You have the room shimmer later - is that afternoon sun?)
She followed the guard, and chewed her lower lip to still her chattering teeth. His tall long-legged gait was a bit much for her, of average for [gender-race] she had to gather up the folds of her dress to keep up. Nervous about her scores last week, she felt compelled to ask.
Please sir, Did they say what it's about?
The guard paused under the shadow of a stone archway, and waning sunlight glinted from his helmet through the tall, plexiglass windows. He fixed a withering glare on her and turned to move on without speaking
In the above example, I can use the tension of the approaching meeting to hide the fact that I'm totally info-dumping her age-height-race-clothes-time on the poor reader. In addition, we know this character is in serious trouble and anyone who's been the subject of such a glare is forced into the character's shoes.
Don't use that example - I'm just demonstrating the raw awesome amount of data you skipped.
Take this advice with a grain of salt. In [J e n n a]s story, I got about 3000 words out of her walking from one room to another to see her father (for her execution), and in another story, I got about 7 chapters from a scout taking an overnight jog.
730 2018-03-20 07:25:11
Re: A different critique (34 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
...is to examine the very questions posed in this thread. Does newly created literature have to be written literally/unambiguously in the new puritanical, sterilized style, or can the literary Cavalier or wordsmith still exist? Has the AutoCrit generation of Amazon Forum editor killed prose?
I believe I'm hinting that yes, the Amazon Forum wields unfair power. I've heard figures thrown out that Amazon controls anywhere from 50 to 80% of the eBook market. Given those kinds of numbers, I'm more than willing to eavesdrop on their forums and learn what they hate in droves with the goal of sanitizing my writing to their specifications.
Is this approach unnecessary pandering to the reader? Is it allowing Gen AutoCrit to win? Probably. On the other hand, I'm only losing a few words I didn't care about. Having gone through all my work and removed the word "pad", I find my stories unharmed. I feel like I made a picture, and the market is squabbling about what frame to put it in. If they'll only buy it with a golden frame, fine, here's a golden frame for you.
I don't foresee myself hunting down every use of "roar". Not sure why. Well... tedium is one factor. I know for sure I haven't applied it to cheetahs, so I think I can sneak under the radar on that. I think such a quest would result in oversterilization. There's only so much reader-service I can deliver.
731 2018-03-20 02:06:43
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Got one for 403's chapter 1
732 2018-03-18 22:47:26
Re: A different critique (34 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
So, I put the question out: would a good writer, after actually hearing the sounds of a cheetah, describe their sound as a “roar”?
Hmm... Charles Dickens spoke of the waters of Niagara as a roar. Not sure he meant feline noises, and equally unsure I can prove he was any good at his craft.
Just to keep the wheels spinning, what of the verb "padded" and in "Bob padded to the kitchen sink". Amazon forums will tell you it's a no-no, and "padded" only applies to creature with paws. Would you allow padded to be applied to humans?
733 2018-03-18 14:06:44
Re: A different critique (34 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Cheetahs make a weird snarl sound. If I read "roar of a cheetah", it's exactly this sound I would picture. Same with an elephant... "roar of an elephant" would give me images of an elephant making a loud elephant noise (eg not a lion noise). Third example: Katy Perry saying "hear me roar"... well humans aren't good at that activity but I can still visualize it.
I suppose I'm asking if the quote in OP was presented in a symbolic nature or factual?
734 2018-03-17 12:47:34
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
The syndrome... does it need a name? I hasn't had one in v2 or v3. I was wondering what leverage naming it gives you
735 2018-03-17 01:46:32
Re: etc (68 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
736 2018-03-17 00:26:32
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Actually, I'm a little curious if it needs a name. Why not just have the voices like before? Is there some advantage to framing it in this way?
737 2018-03-16 02:40:52
Re: The Sorcerer's Progress (1,528 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
pfft dessert... you've been dating amateurs. I've had my entrée picked clean on me. It's disconcerting
738 2018-03-16 01:23:22
Re: WIP Rhiannon the Nude, Vol 2: New Fairy by Rhiannon (123 replies, posted in Close friends)
What's the current title of the book I read, aka R the Nude
739 2018-03-14 11:43:44
Re: Opening stories with prologues and dreams (20 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
After reading Nora Roberts (writing as J.D. Robb), and noticing she makes all the "mistakes,"
She's reached the mulching point where she can just release anything and it'll do okay sales or even great sales. You can tell a big writer is approaching this point when you start seeing the name in giant point and have to hunt for the title.
Usually that's my cue that they don't need my business anymore. They've made it, and I'm happy for them, but I typically pull them from my roster and add some new faces.
-K
740 2018-03-14 00:01:18
Re: WIP Rhiannon the Nude, Vol 2: New Fairy by Rhiannon (123 replies, posted in Close friends)
I will be looking for cover art. Any suggestions? There is a website where you can buy/subscribe to cover art, thus, getting around copyright restrictions, and of course, I can always hire an artist.
Interesting.
*Wanders off*
741 2018-03-13 02:25:10
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
set in AD 7329, long after Joseph and Apollo are dead.
Reminds me of 2001 Space Odyssey. I think book 3 jumps forward to like 10001AD
742 2018-03-12 00:45:49
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
I agree this character is a little busy.No easy fix comes to mind tho
743 2018-03-11 20:36:47
Re: The Sorcerer's Progress (1,528 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
I don't remember what fora it was mentioned in but Eat the Rich is brilliant and majestic
744 2018-03-10 21:02:50
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
You should also uncouple this passage from the name Jesus if you can, if you want the widest market potential. Also I lived on the street near Britannia which was not far from the school of Adelaide Hoodless and Queen Mary's school. Just saying that "Britannia" only gets you a half step away from the region you might be trying to escape
745 2018-03-10 19:30:35
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
746 2018-03-10 18:34:20
Re: Day of the Dude (3 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
hah... I didn't want to contaminate such a beautiful quote with my ruminations.
747 2018-03-10 04:22:22
Topic: Day of the Dude (3 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Ethan Cohen said that if a movie like 'Fargo' can succeed, then nothing makes sense.
so you might as well make the movie you want and just hope for the best
748 2018-03-10 02:04:58
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,492 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
Edit: I lied. I make tons of charts - those should count as notes. And when I'm done, I map my plot to make sure my highs & lows balance. And I make character sheets for the mains
749 2018-03-10 00:46:59
Re: Savior of the Damned (the Connor series) by Dirk B. (1,492 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
The notes for [J e n n a]'s story were basically 15 rows in a spreadsheet... possibly 200 words. Yet, like Amy, I had dozens of scenes mapped out in my head. One scene (her wedding) never made it in. This makes me sad because because a lot of people find creative ways to get into her cross hairs during the ceremony
750 2018-03-09 12:31:30
Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B. (1,217 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)
I don't think I'll use the Mormons, though. Not prominent enough. And Protestants are too diverse (although that would make it easy to create a denomination that veers off course over two thousand years). Since Joseph is (currently) crown prince of his home world and is descended from Queen Elizabeth, I think I prefer the Church of England. I just need to be careful not to piss off the British by modifying their religion before Joseph turns it upside down.
Well, you're doing well if you never say which religion it grew out of. As long as you know and the reader doesn't, it'll show in your writing and there'll be no one who feels singled out.