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(17 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

re the missing letter, you have 3. That's it. If you write 'A, B, C, ...' my brain turns the remainder into <blah>. I couldn't find the Q if you asked me to.

This is an unusual paragraph. I’m curious as to just how quickly you can find out what is so unusual about it. It looks so ordinary and plain that you would think nothing was wrong with it. In fact, nothing is wrong with it! It is highly unusual though. Study it and think about it, but you still may not find anything odd. But if you work at it a bit, you might find out. Try to do so without any coaching.

See the above riddle? My brain cannot solve this kind of thing.

I highly recommend Butlerian Jihad. I was impressed enough to get them in hardcover. The ending /is/ forced though. Ugly forced. Like we've written ourselves into a box and have to cheap our way out forced. But there's a tie-in to House Atreides, which is a nice bonus.

Interesting that they felt the need to patch the original ending. Wonder if the Sr. is about to come back as a ghost and berate the Jr.

I view it as the worst of the originals... find reading it even more of a chore than book 1 reading a detailed description of a desert

Emperor's return kinda follows the books tho

Yes distancing from "it may be supernatural" to "It almost certainly is"

Checked it... don't have enough to get points off a review because my brain's too crusty for me to be sure of differences (I was "did she have a  cat? I'm not sure??") but it looked like a significant distancing from the original "it may be supernatural" premise

I vaguely a (windsurfing?) scene in the /other/ books and recall thinking to myself how little I could imagine the original cast having a relaxing windsurf. Really stood out to me - can't even remember which book it was but it stood out that much.

Vaguely recalls of Star Wars where we take 15 minutes off the action to show Anakin riding buffalo-like creatures while he falls in love, and I was thinking aw geez, Luke never got a vacation amounting to 10% of the show time to ride a buffalo

...need to be murders before Connor leaves ... so that Connor can be fully ruled out as a suspect.
>As stated elsewhere, Connor can be in two places at once (via miracles he's capable of)

Four total seemed like a reasonable number.
>Honestly, one is enough

>He may be ruled out anyway since he's only 175 cm tall while the killer is 185 cm.
>Same problem. What's to keep him from growing 10cm when he's in a bloodlust?

some mystery about how the Antichrist is able to kill in Rome and the Holy Land at virtually the same time
>some mystery about how [Connor] is able to kill in Rome and the Holy Land at virtually the same time
(I fixed your text for you)

Q: Do you /have/ to kill 3 cardinals?

I mean, could it be one cardinal, then a high-speed chase complete with Fast-and-Furious vehicular stunts, then a 2nd cardinal? Why specifically cardinals?

I mean, if it  were say 1 bishop, 5 lay-betheren, 1 poor altar boy and a cheerleader, maybe all of Rome doesn't have to know because there's a holy day coming up and the church is fighting media speculation that the Vatican is unsafe. By choosing so high up the ladder, have you built yourself a bed of nail to sleep on?

re because Herbert needed her for story purposes

Herbert would probably agree with you, but I' debate this point if I could. I'd suggest he feed her to the sandworms. For funner that way

Reminds me that it's been so long since I last read it cover-to-cover that I don't remember why the Emperor even brought Irulan with him (allowing her to get claimed as spoil)

instead of Martin Luther, perhaps "Batman". Less political

What Mlle Gacèlle said above. Narrator must establish himself as subjective. The earlier the better.

Adding. CJ's story can get away with this easier than yours because your genre requires your narrator to stay objective. Imagine a CSI: NY story:

Mary looked guilty.
or
Mary gave a guilty look.
or
Mary fingered her purse guiltily.

Right here, even if Mary is not guilty of the crime at hand, she is assuredly guilty of something because the narrator asserts certainity. This is extremely important because if we find out Mary is not guilty (not even of cheating on her taxes or double-dipping at last night's work party), the writer has cheated us. I dare say, it is required of the writer to reveal at some point "Mary is innocent of the crime at hand, but here's why she was acting guilty" -OR- work really hard on a judgemental-subjective narrator who the reader is convinced may be wrong on several points. In so doing, Mary's innocence causes the reader to go "aha, I knew the narrator was wrong"

Again, my example with Mary is significant in a crime story where tiny clues are meant to help the reader ascertain fact. In another genre, it would probably matter less.

You assume that was Alia talking (and not, say, the Baron, as we know from Book III)

Absolutely can be made to work, but not every narrator can pull it off. You'll want to use a highly subjective one to achieve this without getting called on for animate/conscious smiles.

Dirk B. wrote:

I wore myself out trying to figure out how best to solve the repetitive references to dark figure. Finally decided to just delete roughly half the references to dark. Lots of references to figure, but I don't know of a better solution.

You're tackling it too soon. Give it a few weeks (months?) to bake. After a few sleeps, you'll have it. Ugly fact: the human brain continues to work on real world problems during REM sleep instead of... you know... relaxing. Impossible tasks surprisingly have solutions after some time has elapsed.

hat will be ruled out in my next chapter. The dark figure is 185 cm and Connor is 175 cm. I set that up in earlier chapters, but the Pope's Council will discuss it as they try to figure out who Connor really is.

Height difference doesn't rule it out (Connor from the future grew 10cm). Gender difference doesn't rule it out (Campanella's real form is a male). Being dead (run over while fleeing an ex-lover) doesn't rule it out. There is no proof of anything yet.

Impressions: It's trying too hard to conceal the identity. Is it worth the effort? There is no one in the story it could be that would carry any shock value-- not even the detectives or the pope (though the latter would be humourous given the level of physical activity). The reason for this lack-of-shock factor is the story hasn't "sold" us that it isn't any given person. If this was a movie, I'd suggest the dark figure was Connor from the future, but yes, it could be anyone even one of the victims.

Maybe take another swing at it?

http://www.skyfire.ca/kwan/tnbw/dark_figure.jpg

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(11 replies, posted in Close friends)

Means your computer is a Mac

Both styles work for me

3rd option: They get a clear view and ID someone who is out of the country at the time.

"Brian Herbert has completely misunderstood his fathers work- I have to assume that he's actually read it. Unfortunately , as there are several prequels and side stories of equal incompetence" yowza

haha I just checked out the reviews. so vicious lol

I own hunters in hard cover. They were on sale for $4 in a bin in Coles. Haven't read ... was lost by chapter 3 not enjoyable at all

Plus many of the characters in Hunters I was emotionally done with. Actually not "many"... "all".

The prequels were abit rough, but I did like Butlerian Jihad. The book 3 "twist that everyone saw coming because otherwise the later books would never have occurred" was kinda contrived/forced but there's only so much material a prequel can invent. I felt Darth Vader's crossover was equally forced in the SW prequels.

I was poking around Dune the other day. Lamenting the effort it would take to read through until the series gets good (circa book 5)