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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Something smaller, made of stone, cracking into gravel before it collapses into a pile?  Or the surface of the Baldacchino crumbling off, leaving diabolical symbols?

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

I decided to stick with the Baldacchino collapsing for now. It's really just four bronze pillars and a top. Connor tells Father Romano that it was an attempt on Connor's life. Connor reports an evil presence at the site of the collapse, which his godfather (a police inspector) thinks is the Antichrist. However, I can't leave any proof of the AC's involvement so that the Pope's Council only has Connor's word on the matter. Romano suggests that Connor may be the forerunner to Christ's second coming, like John the Baptist was in the first century. There's a well-documented private revelation about an 'Angelic Pope', who comes before the End Times. One member of the council (a bit of a heretic) even suggests Connor may actually be Christ, and may simply not know it yet. All that gets hashed out in Connor's next chapter.

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Almost had a heart attack after rechecking my research about Satan fathering the Antichrist. Folks on my Catholic forum say angels and demons can't reproduce. Fortunately, I eventually (re)stumbled on Genesis 6:1-4. It clearly distinguishes sons of God from men. The former are generally understood to be angels according to the NABRE, the most commonly used Catholic Bible in the US. Also, Wikipedia has an article about sex with demons, although it's not as clear as the Bible verses.

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Lynn suggested having ravens appear in my chapter where Campagna first meets Connor (at the soccer game). I like that so much I'm going to use that everywhere that the two inspectors go in pursuit of the Antichrist. There'll always be a raven somewhere in the scene, culminating in a mass assault by a flock of them. Ravens don't actually flock, which will add to the mystery. I just need to re-watch the Omen to avoid duplicating what they did.

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

Ravens is kinda Norse, no?

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Yeah, they're big in Norse mythology. They also act as psychopomps between the real and spirit worlds. They're considered bad luck in some cultures. I wouldn't want to piss one off.

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Nuts. Ravens feature prominently in Omen 2. They act on behalf of teenaged Damien's subconscious to kill three of his potential enemies. Given the other similarities between my story and the Omen, I'll probably avoid ravens. Crows, perhaps?

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Got it: red-winged blackbirds. Not very big, but the bright red markings are reminiscent of fresh blood. Plus, they'll seem like a harmless curiosity at first.

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Bit of a plot hole in three of my scenes that I'd like to address, although I'm not sure how. Scene 1.1 (the healing of Alessandro's epilepsy) has Alessandro clearly know what happened during the seizure, although epileptics normally don't remember anything. In scene 1.3 he discusses it with Connor at breakfast as having felt the Holy Spirit bathe him in healing energy. Scene 2.1 has Connor kiss Cardinal Nnamani's ring on the cardinal's paralyzed arm, which leads to tingling in the fingers by the end of the scene and a full recovery within a day.

Question is, how come Alessandro felt himself being healed even while unconscious, while Nnamani felt no such rush through his body? The best answer I can come up with is that Connor was pouring healing energy directly into Alessandro's brain (he was holding Alessandro's head at the time), whereas he only held the cardinal's arm and kissed his ring. Seems like an asspull, though, since the entire right side of the cardinal's body is healed within 24 hours, which in theory ought to include his brain. Another possible answer is that the cardinal didn't feel it right away because his right side is paralyzed, including damage to the relevant part of his brain. Both options seem lame.

Or, I can just say screw it and ignore the problem. No reviewers have brought it up, although that could be because they're reading my scenes weeks apart and it doesn't stand out.

Thoughts?
Dirk

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

As a reader, I wouldn't be expecting both recipients of healing to experience the same stimuli

Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

I definitely prefer their experiences to be similar if possible. I'll try playing with the wording of both healings to see if I can do more to reconcile the two.

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I finally started writing new material again: the interrogation of Father Copolla, accused by the gravedigger of being the dark figure/Antichrist. I also resumed reading Dune. I'd forgotten that Paul and his mother were both Atreides *and* Harkonnens. I remember Paul's line from the David Lynch film: We will kill until no Harkonnen breathes Arakeen air.

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I was poking around Dune the other day. Lamenting the effort it would take to read through until the series gets good (circa book 5)

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You don't like the first book? It and God Emperor were my favorites, even though both are hard to understand at times. I always wondered how similar Frank Herbert's end to the series would have been had he lived long enough. His son's finale was based on notes from his father. I didn't care for it.

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I'm going to have to buy the Kindle versions of Frank Herbert's sequels since I left the printed copies behind in the US. I read the Wikipedia entries for the two books that close out the series. Those were based on Herbert's notes. I didn't care for the plot summaries. Way too complicated to follow. I'll probably get around to them eventually. I read them years ago and vaguely recall not liking them much. I read a few of the prequel novels over the years but it got it of control. Talk about milking a franchise to death.

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Solved my problem of the two interrogation chapters seeming too much alike. Father Coppola has a heart attack and drops dead when they go to arrest him. I was done with him anyway.

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I own hunters in hard cover. They were on sale for $4 in a bin in Coles. Haven't read ... was lost by chapter 3 not enjoyable at all

Plus many of the characters in Hunters I was emotionally done with. Actually not "many"... "all".

The prequels were abit rough, but I did like Butlerian Jihad. The book 3 "twist that everyone saw coming because otherwise the later books would never have occurred" was kinda contrived/forced but there's only so much material a prequel can invent. I felt Darth Vader's crossover was equally forced in the SW prequels.

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I googled Hunters of Dune, then went to Amazon.com to see the reviews. The site listed that book for me on its main page. Scary.

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haha I just checked out the reviews. so vicious lol

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"Brian Herbert has completely misunderstood his fathers work- I have to assume that he's actually read it. Unfortunately , as there are several prequels and side stories of equal incompetence" yowza

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Re: The Gathering Darkness (the Connor series) - Dirk B.

From an Amazon.com review: "I won't even try to catalog the overwhelming number of defects that we are subjected to by the sadly unimaginative semi-literate steaming turd that is Hunters of Dune."

Makes me worry about what people will say about my books.

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I find it interesting that Duke Leto ordered a suicide raid by some of his men against the Baron's spice stores. While it proves his men were willing to die for him, it doesn't match the supposedly noble nature of the Duke.

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Frank Herbert spent a lot of time describing the indescribable. Lots of showing of rocks and desert. Can't picture most of it.

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I'm debating changing an element of the dark figure to change his face and body, currently shrouded in shadows where none should exist, to a long dark hooded robe. His face could then be half hidden under the hood of the robe. It has the advantage that the figure becomes more human. It helps explain why the detectives are looking among humans for the identity of this figure. At least one of my readers raised this as a point of confusion. I had always envisioned the dark figure as having a dual identity, like Peter Parker and Spiderman. The dark figure appears as a regular person whenever he wants. The hooded cloak would remove any need to explain the supernatural shadows. He'd still have red eyes when he wants and can reek of burned out ruins. He also can still project a deep rumbling voice. All of those are just to intimidate potential victims.

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Both styles work for me

3rd option: They get a clear view and ID someone who is out of the country at the time.