There's a similar event in Space Odyssey when HAL9000 opens a hatch. You may want to check it.

Kiss

Gacela

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Okay, got it! Thanks.

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Suin:

Helga and Athens don't look exactly the same, I mean, not like identical twins, but they certainly look alike--like sisters. That's actually a coincidence.

Athens is now gone after Helga abandoned her body. In a previous chapter I mentioned how it works: if a demon is trapped in a human body--because he entered the wrong way--the demon cannot leave it. If the owner of the body dies, the demon would still be trapped in the dead body.Once the body decays, the demon would be no more because he would be spread in the dust the body turns into. So, the demon's conservation instinct will try to save him before the owner of the body dies. Because the demon is deeply trapped in the host's body, the only way to leave the is by sheer force.

Once the host's life is in danger--the life of the  owner of the body is in danger--the demon's conservation instinct sets off. The demon will leave the body causing the body to set afire violently--spontaneous combustion. That's why the car blew, because Athens's body violently caught fire and the car's gas tank exploded.

After the spontaneous combustion, the demon is free. Very weak, but free. The demon will be on the same place where the body he occupied was. In flesh and bones, and in spirit. In his actual physical form, however horrible, and naked, because being trapped in somebody else's body doesn't include being dressed. According to Mr Buchanan, that's the right time to seize a demon because he's so weak he can't fight back. Moreover, he would remain weak for over  year, but not as weak as during those initial minutes.

The reason why Buchanan tied Anna Melbourne to the Amtrak tracks was because he believed Helga was trapped inside Anna's body. He wanted Helga's conservation instinct to trigger the spontaneous combustion process when the Amtrak would be an inch away from Anna and death would be imminent. Demons don't die, even if the Amtrak runs them over. So, if Buchanan's plan would have worked, after the spontaneous combustion Helga, her 16 yo physical form, would be lying naked by the tracks.

The weekend Helga spent with Oxford in the cabin by Lake Viking, she explained Oxford she wasn't trapped in Athens's body and that she could leave it whenever she wanted, but that the spontaneous combustion would happen anyway, and she would be weak after leaving the body. Law of nature. This means Helga is more powerful than any other demon, because other demons were trapped and couldn't leave at will the body they were trapped in. However, she chose to stay in Athens's body for the reasons she explained Oxford.

Because Patrick and her were in danger, and even more because Melissa could be in danger, Helga decided to abandon Athens body before they reached the Brotherhood's lair in the abandoned FedEx warehouse.

Wow!!! So many explanations. I know my homework now is to make that all of the above is clear in the story. Thanks for pointing at it.

Kiss,

Gacela

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Dear Suin:

I agree. People are not one-dimensional and react different in different environments and situations, even though there's always a sort of pattern which people regularly follow. I was only surprised to find such a different character all of a sudden. From his comments, I gather Sheriff Norm is as surprised as I was. Well, his exact words were he was "pissed" because of Sarah's reactions, allowing Hugh to control her. My belief is because Sarah turned into such a different character.

My advice would be then to clarify why she's behaving in this way. Okay, it's evident she's in the middle of something big, she's only 21, and she's overwhelmed, and you may say it should be obvious, but it wasn't for me--which may mean I'm the only one so shortsighted. In case I'm not the only one, maybe you'd want to show in some other way the reasons she's reacting this way. Maybe some internal dialogue where she thinks of letting her parents down, of betraying their Catholic values, etc, vs. her dreams. And also come internal dialogue about Hugh: how much he likes him, but at the same time how much he confuses her, etc... Out of that internal dialogue the reader would infer why she's reacting the way she is, blindly accepting to marry Hugh--at least it seems so.

Kiss,

Gacela

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To be honest, it seems as if Sarah were two different persons. The person from the first chapters: resolute, with a clear goal in mind, very modern--e.g., having sex when she wants to even if there is no hard-wired relationship--managing her own life, living with roomies and not with her family, is not the person from the last two or three chapters: strongly family-dependent, allowing others to decide for her, turned into the puppet of somebody who is not even her boyfriend but an acquaintance, or a sexual partner in the best case. It's quite confusing.

Which audience are you targeting, Suin? The chic-lit audience who likes the poor, suffering-girl story, the one about a girl who is abused and suffers in silence, until the very end when Mr Right comes to save her? Or are you targeting the young- and new-adult audience who likes to read about resolute girls fighting for their place in life against past prejudices and paradigms? At first, and based on your previous story character development, it seemed to me it was latter, now it appears to be the former.


The answer to the above is important because the comments we may provide you depend on the type of story you're writing, and the audience you're directing this story to. Twilight is young adult, but it's also chick-lit. On the other hand, The Changeover by Margaret Mahy is young adult and also fantasy. The main difference is their heroines. Twilight is about a damsel in distress, The Changeover is an against-all-odds coming of age story.


Which type of story is yours?


Kiss,


Gacela

By the way, because of you I read "Swords & Deviltry".

Interesting...

Kiss,

Gacela

Rhiannon sent me this quickie:

And I'm proud of you breaking the semi-colon barrier. Was it your first time? How did it feel?

My answer:

It was my first time, and it had the bittersweet taste of the perfect crime.

Kiss,

Gacela.

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This is a comment Rhiannon sent to me through a quickie:

Hi Mariana: To answer your question, was there too much human-demon conflict before the YA drama, my initial response is yes. The human-demon conflict is like the backstory (like, not is. I know it's part of the "front" story). I think you should start with the teenaged drama, maybe even Athena's being bullied and her suicide attempt, then dovetail the human-demon conflict in that. One suggestion: you show Athena's conflict, then in the next chapter, show Helga's conflict, have them like intersecting plot lines that merge with the whole Patrick loves Athena (poor sucker) conflict. Oh, and I made some further comments in response to some of your replies, so you might want to check that.

My answer:
Thanks. The Sheriff and you are giving much to think about. This is the story's first draft, so it's valid to rewrite it. I mean, what's the purpose of publishing it here if not?

I never planned to have Athens and Helga communicating. In fact, my original idea was that Helga wiped out Athens off her body, but the Sheriff may be right. Of course, it represents heavy rewriting. So far, I will continue with the story following the original idea and will introduce the amendments in the second iteration. I don't want to start modifying the story, taking ages before it's concluded.

Kiss,

Gacela

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I've also recommended the Sheriff to reduce the amount of "preaching" Danny does explaining how wrong America is. I agree there a re a lot of opportunity areas and that the story focuses on righting some of the wrongs through the Radio Revolution, but at times it feels like "too much", Of course, I belong to the 180-character generation, so my observations might be heavily biased. that said, I agree with Suin that action must scale faster. The story has reached an exiting point.

Kiss,

Gacela

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All these are interesting comments. Thank you very much.

At the beginning of the story, Helga invades Athens's body almost by coincidence, which actually prevents Athens's death--otherwise, she would have died after hitting the pile of cement sacks. After that, it's always Helga in control of Athens's body. I thought it was clear but, from the Sheriff's comments, I think it doesn't. I know there's much I have to rewrite and this is one of the main things. Melissa and Patrick befriend Helga, not Athens. Athens and Helga do not alternate controlling the body, it's always Helga.

About what happens after chapter 35, Sheriff Norm really made me laugh! I don't think Patrick and Helga would make love right under the bushes--even though is a tempting idea  ;P   Also, Sheriff Norm is confused about Number 700. He's not Patrick's dad. I actually made sure Buchanan indicated Patrick's dad must not be summoned in order to avoid extreme conflict, which is the very reason why Buchanan issued the order.

Suin's idea is interesting. Why I'm realising is I'm missing chapters. I mean, I need to add more scenes showing life between Patrick, Melissa, and Athens/Helga, stressing each one's personality, motivations, etc. Also showing what Helga is capable of, like when she caused the knife to go through that girl's hand.

Kiss,

Gacela

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Dear Suin:

I'd suggest you to make it more evident Sarah is a people-pleaser--it was not that evident for me, or your images were too subtle. Maybe we can ask other reviewers whether it is clear Sarah is a people-pleaser. If it is, then forget about this comment because it may be that I'm blind as bat about clues. I never guess who the criminal is!

About hating Hugh... I agree that it takes two to tango, but when desperation hits, it's human nature to try to blame somebody else, at least as a first reaction. It's part of our basic, defensive tools. You have to be a really mature person to accept upfront you are accountable. At 21, I'm not sure if everybody is. I've seen less transcendental things happening and people blaming each other: "If you hadn't..." "You were the one who..." etc, seldom accepting they might have had played a role.

At least at first. With hindsight, people tend to acknowledge their responsibility, not never immediately afterwards. There's another reason why Sarah may hate Hugh: she planned to have an abortion without sharing the info with her parents. Because Hugh appeared at her home, all her plans wrecked and now her career is really destroyed. Hadn't Hugh appeared, she wouldn't have told her parents, had the abortion, and leave to Russia.

Kiss,

Gacela

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I've just the the last chapter published and I have some concerns. In Mexico, a highly catholic and conservative country, I've seen cases, even with close friends, in which a girl gets pregnant and HAS to get married. I agree with the fact that conservative parents tend to make sure single, pregnant girls get married in order to "cover-up" things. So, Sarah's mother reaction is correct. However, what I think is not correct is that Sarah's mother may be happy and even enthused with this arrangement. What I've typically seen is that this kinds of arrangements are seen as a "necessary problem". Meaning nobody wanted a marriage, but because it's the only way out, so you ought to cope with it. The baby is not a nice surprise for anybody, bit is seen as a burden nobody wants, a piece in a larger problem.

So, my belief is Sarah's mother would not be enthused with the marriage, even if it represents a solution. Relieved? Maybe. Happy? Not at all. Moreover, because Sarah's mother must be aware it's the end of Sarah's ballet career. According to Sarah, she was accepted in the Russian company, missing only certain exams, including a medical one. She must realise once the Russians discover through the medical exam Sarah is pregnant, they gonna break up the deal.

So, Sarah's mother must be quite upset with the whole thing.

On the other hand, I don't agree with Sarah's reaction by the end of the chapter. She must be hating Hugh. However charming, because he didn't use protection she's now pregnant. He barely knows him, ans she never authorised him to talk to her parents. He's intruding his life and destroying her career. She should hate him, or at least be so very angry with him she wouldn't even ask him to drive her back to Dublin, not to say actually consider marrying him.

Kiss,

Gacela.

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Jack, it you've already sold "thousands" of copies of your books, you can consider yourself a successful author. Don't be so tough with yourself. I'm on the hundreds level and I'm very happy. Of course, I'm far, far away from bestselling. Maybe farther than Star Wars's galaxy, it doesn't prevents me from feeling happy with my limited success.

Art, like any other profession, is complex. For each Leonardo or Michael Angelo, there are millions of painters who barely make a living not to say those who border starvation. Art galleries are a world as crappy and crocked as the Publishing World, and few are the painters who climb the steps of Elysium. However, there are thousand, if not millions, of painters who make a living selling their works in bazaars, some of them true undiscovered masterpieces.

Many lofty painters were not recognised in their times, but centuries after being dead, which further supports that it's the public -- and sometimes time --the one who tags an artworks as a masterpiece.

Kiss,

Gacela-

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It all depends on your aims. If you're looking forward to being published by traditional publishers, then it might a problem. If you're self-publishing, which is a route followed by many in TNBW community, then you don't care about dealbreakers. If you've already self-published anything, those works turn automatically ineligible. However, I've read of self-published ebooks whose rights are afterwards purchased by any of the infamous big 5 who then publish the hard copy. If they smell money, believe me, they're gonna try to buy your rights no matter what.

Prob is, they've lost they nose. There are tonnes of stories about bestsellers that were rejected not once but several times. Harry Potter tops the list, but take Carlos Ruiz Zafón's "The Shadow of the Wind". Back in 2002, he participated in a contest sponsored by a Spanish publishing house and ended second. The first prize was the publication contract awarded to Angeles Caso's "A Long Silence". Zafón was already a YA published writer and "The Shadow of the Wind" was his first novel targeting a more mature audience.

One of the judges recommended to publish Zafon's novel too, not as part of the contests but under a separate negotiation. At first, nobody at the publishing house cared, but finally Zafón's novel was published. Few books were published at first though--something around 1000--and distribution was poor because nobody at the publishing house believe it in, despite Zafon being a published author and despite he ended second. My goodness, it was not like he had ended in the last place! But no, the publishers didn't believe in him.

As of today, "The Shadow of the Wind" is a bestseller that has sold over 10 million copies alone. The author turned it into a three-book series that has sold over 20 million copies. The novel that won the prize was published but it never, ever, represented the success Zafón's novel represented. Why didn't Zafón's story won the first prize? In the end, it got published just by chance.

The link posted by njc takes you to a very interesting article about publishing houses nowadays. I know self-publishing doesn't seem to be the route to becoming a best-selling author, but the big 5 don't seem either. The actual route is writing a best-seller. The readers--as it happened to Harry Potter and The Shadow of the Wind--will, ultimately, be the ones discovering a best seller.

Kiss

Gacela

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I find the navigation quite intuitive. Perhaps the only improvement required is when you start an in-line review and you leave it open. To access the review in progress you have to go to "In line review replies", which is not very intuitive. I mean, why going to the "replies" section if you're looking for a review which is still a draft? It's not like the author would have already replied, is it?

Kiss,

Gacela

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Dear Sheriff:

I've just read your bio. Interesting life. I can see why there's so much energy in "The Radio Revolution".

About getting published: Publishers are very picky because they put their money on each book they publish. Self-publishing has been the workaround for many of us, not because our stories are poor, but because they don't fit commercial standards. This doesn't mean there haven't been self-published masterpieces and bestsellers, but that commercial publishers protect their investments and only invest there where success is guaranteed. Even Harry Potter, a multimillionaire saga, was rejected not one but several times!

That said, self publishing can be very simple, or very complicated.

It's simple because it's just matter of uploading your book to Amazon and sit until sales come.

Complicated because you need to perform several tasks in place of the publisher: editing, creating the cover, formatting, and marketing the story.

Many people in TNBW do the editing thing, but it will never be comprehensive. Hence, you need to pay a professional copy-editor. Else you can publish your story without any further revision, in which case you run the risk to sell a poor-quality product. Whether readers may accept to pay for it mostly depend on the story itself. If it's the next hundred-million dollar best-seller, must likely they'll turn a blind eye, but not the other way around.

Creating an appealing cover is a challenge if you're not Photoshop-savvy. I created Amber Eyes cover myself, but my sis, who is a Photoshop expert, helped me a lot. There's people who create these covers for a free, the more professional the more expensive. I've seen many a horrible covers, but the books are sold anyway, so again it's an arguable topic. What is true is than an appealing cover immediately attracts potential readers.

Formatting the story to fit Amazon requirements is not biggie, but you need to install the software, most of it free. Here, I can help you. If you plant to self publish any of your novels and you already have the final manuscript in Microsoft Word and your cover in a JPG file, I can do the formatting for you and deliver an Amazon-ready file. For free.

Marketing is another pair of shoes. A story can remain in Amazon for years and nobody reads it.

That' why publishers are so picky. They do all of the above for their authors. You only deliver them the story and they do all the dirty work and even eat the loss if your story is not a success. So, they only take stories that promise to be a commercial success. Anything too revolutionary is out of their scope.

My suggestion: try an agent and a publisher first. If they reject you, and you have some money spared to invest (the total investment must't be over US$1000 and comes down to almost nothing if you do it yourself), go for self publishing. There no other way to fulfill your dream. There's no other way to learn if you're gonna be successful.

Kiss,

Gacela.

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This Forum is to discuss Sheriff Norm's The Radio Revolution

This Forum is to discuss Rhiannon's, Rhiannon the Nude, Vol 2: New Fairy

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This the forum to discuss Mariana's Where Heaven and Hell Meet.

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This is the Forum to discuss Suin's THE BEST LAID PLANS

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I've just opened a WIP forum to discuss the works we have in progress. If I'm missing one of your works you may want other people to discuss in a forum please feel free to add it.

Kiss,

Gacela.

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This forum is to discuss punctuation a grammar. Rhiannon and I have had some interesting discussions about the topic through Quickies. Using this forum others may also participate.

Kiss,

Gacela

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The idea is that every member of the group introduces herself, sharing the personal facts each one deems appropriate.  Knowing us better helps to understand the motivations behind our stories. As reviewers, it’s easy to review a story if we understand such motivations.

My name is Helga Mariana Reuter. My dad is French; my mum is Mexican. I have both nationalities. My native tongues are French and Spanish, so, when I write in English, I usually mess up the three languages with disastrous results.

In my bio it says I’m 22, but that was when I joined TNBW. I’m 25 now. I work at a pharmaceutical company as Regional Demand Manager, spending every month 3 weeks in Mexico and one week in New Jersey. In Mexico I live with my parents. Dad’s a French diplomat, so we’ve lived in several places: France, London, USA, and Mexico City.

I started writing as a kid. I wrote mystery stories starred by a detective a la Sherlock Homes who lived with his assistant, even though there was no romantic relationship between him and her. They just happened to share the same roof, where they also had their office, LOL!
After that, I wrote short stories and participated in many contests, sometimes winning a prize, most of the times not. Three years ago, I got serious about writing and, aided by people from TNBW where I work shopped it, I self-publish my debut novel “Amber Eyes”.

I have no boyfriend and no kids, and no plans to start a family in the short term, but I certainly want to have one of my own. I would like to be a full time writer, like Agatha Christie, but of course it depends on many factors. Meanwhile, I keep writing, reading, and learning.

PS. (Edited two days afterwards): All my friends call me Gacela, a nick I earned back when I was a kid--originally it was Gazelle in French, but it changed to Spanish after many years living in Mexico. People who only my acquaintances, like people from work, call me Mariana. Feel free to be my friend.

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Thanks Corra! It should have been more intuitive though.

Kiss,

Gacela

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I belong to a coupla groups that are simply dead. How do I leave them? I can't find a button to do so. Anybody knows?

Kiss,

Gacela.