Jake J. Harrison wrote:

You didn't have to click. Just sayin...

That's an invalid argument. This thread is taking up space and attention. Once again, it's like crying fire in a theater. Why should I have to look away? Why should this be at the top of the forum? It's like saying someone can swear at you every day but don't complain because you don't have to listen.

I'm sorry Jake it is a valid argument. This post is plainly titled: Devin Nune's Nothingburger. It's not worded to trick you into clicking it and reading it. When someone swears in front of you, you don't have a choice. Here you can read the title of the post and CHOOSE to read...or not.
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Jake J. Harrison wrote:

I'm not really sure I see the point of pasting copyrighted, political material on a writing forum. Those that agree with it, will agree, those that don't, won't. There are plenty of political sites where partisans can go at it and are encourage to do so. It really has nothing to do with writing and is bound to create more ill will than anything. If politics stirs your writing juices then by all means go at it in the proper place and then come here to create your wonderful stories.

My family is split politically and we've decided not to discuss politics when we get together because it generally devolves into an argument. I like to come here to escape all of the red hot partisan bullshit which is circulating on the Web. If you find that must bring your viewpoint into a writing site, ask yourself why

If you absolutely must, then create a political group on the site and let like-minded people join. Otherwise, I believe pasting this stuff is like crying fire.

You didn't have to click. Just sayin...
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Now for something a little lighter:
#yomemojokes Tweets:
Yo memo so bankrupt, it used to be a Trump casino.

Yo Memo's such a letdown it's a Star Wars prequel.

Yo memo's such a dog Mitt Romney tried to tie it to the top of his car.

Yo memo is such a disaster, FEMA actually responded to.

Yo memo is so thin Trump combed it over.

Yo memo is so empty it looked like a Trump inaugural speech.

Yo memo such a disaster Puerto Rico sent it relief.

Yo Memo has more holes than Steve Brannon’s face.

Yo memo is so bad, Stormy Daniels spanked it’s ass with a magazine.

Your memo is so stupid Donald Trump calls it Eric. (before you boo me, Eric is a big game hunter, proving his low IQ)

And one just written just for today:

Yo memo so deflated Tom Brady is going to throw it on Sunday.

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PS:
Knock, knock. Who's There? Yo memo. Yo memo who? YoMemo how Obama had *zero* scandals in 8 years?

Charles_F_Bell wrote:

I guess there is wisdom in the advice of not feeding the political-sociopathic trolls.  You even get a more partisan puppet (Renato Mariotti) to speak the Trump paranoid delusion, although in form it is merely a pastiche of Democrat talking points in defense of Obama-era corrupt government.

Charles my advice is the same to you, a Trump supporter, as it is to a Democrat: give money and support to the candidate of your choice, then VOTE.
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I think it's fine to express your feelings about the political morass we find ourselves in, and I encourage everyone to vent. But as you are venting PLEASE do something constructive, too. Support candidates who'll stand up to this totalitarian despot. Give them your time and MONEY and then when 2018 comes please VOTE. Don't get complacent and think because someone has enough support they don't need yours. That's how we got in this mess in the first place.

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SolN wrote:

Hi all,

You've all been quite patient. I wanted to let you know we are going to launch the first of a few contests next week. We'll start with a flash story and then progress to poetry and then the Strongest Start.

Sol

YAY!

j p lundstrom wrote:

Question: Is an author who writes badly to be forgiven as long as he/she tells a good story?

Every time I consider best selling authors who write badly, I think of Michael Connelly and James Patterson.
They might not be forgiven, but they tell good stories and make a lot of money doing it.
For me, personally, it's not the writing, it's the story.

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njc wrote:

Incidentally, Dorothy Sayers indulged in a Tom Swifty in =The Nine Tailors=:

" 'With the big sugar nippers they nipped off his flippers,' Lord Peter Wimsey quoted flippantly."
And if anyone knows from what his Lordship was quoting, please let me know.  (Oh, IIRC this occurred while examining a dis-handed corpse.)

A Lay Of St. Gengulphus - Poem by Richard Harris Barham:

Thus, limb from limb, they dismember'd him
So entirely, that e'en when they came to his wrists,
With those great sugar nippers they nipp'd off his 'flippers,'
As the Clerk, very flippantly, term'd his fists.

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Marilyn Johnson wrote:

I threw this out because I thought somebody somewhere out there in cyberspace could use it.  None of this is set in stone unless you are submitting to MCP.  And even then, they allow exceptions.  I do know Randall has a book published by them, and I know Bill has submitted to them.  Hopefully if anyone else is sending them something, this list will be helpful.

Marilyn,
It was helpful to me. And validation, too. Sometimes when agonizing over what to cut and what to keep, it's helpful to know I can just get by with 'so and so said.'

THANKS!

PS I am listening to Pulitzer prize winner John Stanford's new novel, Deep Freeze, and he adheres to the 'rule' of just letting people say and ask. 

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MJ,
I agree with this. I think it is more effective to describe the demeanor of the speaker BEFORE they speak, the way they look, the way they are breathing, their mannerisms, so that when they finally speak you know they're excited, sad, happy, anxious or distracted.

If it were up to me, I would even leave out so and so said...but, as someone pointed out to me, the reader loses track of who's saying what.

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MJ---You deserve it! Congratulations!
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Sol,
Ann Everett is busy moving and probably didn't see this and I'm betting she won't mind if I enter hers:
http://www.anneverett.com/

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Sherry,

I'm not the how-to book type. I learn a lot from listening (it's the new reading, just ask Audible!) to novels in my genre. However, I did get The Emotion Thesaurus: A Writer's Guide To Character Expression by Angela Ackerman and Becca Puglisi that Gacea recommended.
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The first lines of my first and only novel:

Prologue: Mariah stood on the beach and watched the fog creep inland, as though it were searching for someone.

Chapter one: The car crept along the California coast highway, its fog lights cutting the thin mist like a knife though smoke.

I wanted the weather to set the stage, almost as a main character, because I love mysteries that begin on cold misty nights.
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If you need a case study for a chapter entitled: Don't Let This Happen To You...let me know...
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Happy Birthday Jack!!!!
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I would also suggest that we get rid of the: Script, Essay, Article and Business Writing headings in the drop down menu under story type. Because, as I found out, posting under these headings will not get you on the home page and will cost you more points to republish under Short Story. If you put 'And Non-Fiction' in the short story heading that will cover all those genres.
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SolN wrote:

We took fiction off because no one was writing in it so the same 10 posts languished for months.  Maybe we'll create a miscellaneous category and you can put it in there. How is that?

We could do a non-fiction writing contest. I've been thinking about the next one.

Sol,
You could do that but miscellaneous category would be the same as having a non-fiction one. I have a simpler solution: just add the words 'And Non-fiction" to the New Short Stories heading so it reads: New Short Stories And Non-fiction. I would still post under Short Stories but at least the reader would be prepared for something other than fiction.
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Sol,
I've been writing a blog again and I want to publish it under 'article' but when I do it doesn't make the home page. I have to publish it under 'short story,' for it to post on the home page. Which wouldn't be a big deal if it weren't for the reviewers thinking my blog entry is fiction. I can't be the only non-fiction writer on the site. Can we get non-fiction back on the home page?

Also, I was wondering if we could have a non-fiction writing contest? We had one a few years ago on the greatest sports event we'd ever seen, and I really enjoyed it.
Thanks for your time,
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njc wrote:

The right word is economical.  It delivers great value to the reader with minimum interpretive effort, and no distraction from a need to assemble a picture from multiple words.

Ian McEwan, author of Atonement, is an example of an economical writer. And a good one at that. I love his books.
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I am always looking for new work to read and I thought some might be interested in the National Book Awards for fiction long list:

Elliot Ackerman, “Dark at the Crossing”
Knopf / Penguin Random House

Daniel Alarcón, “The King Is Always Above the People: Stories”
Riverhead Books / Penguin Random House

Charmaine Craig, “Miss Burma”
Grove Press / Grove Atlantic

Jennifer Egan, “Manhattan Beach”
Scribner / Simon & Schuster

Lisa Ko, “The Leavers”
Algonquin Books / Workman

Min Jin Lee, “Pachinko”
Grand Central Publishing / Hachette

Carmen Maria Machado, “Her Body and Other Parties: Stories”
Graywolf Press

Margaret Wilkerson Sexton, “A Kind of Freedom”
Counterpoint Press

Jesmyn Ward, “Sing, Unburied, Sing”
Scribner / Simon & Schuster

Carol Zoref, “Barren Island”
New Issues Poetry & Prose

Hope you see something you might like to read there. National Book Awards finalists will be announced on October 4th, and winners will be announced at a ceremony in New York on November 15th.
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penang wrote:

I've just joined a rl writer's group and we spend most of our time talking about resources for improving our writing, the publishing process (indie and traditional), and marketing. Often online courses come up and we share our thoughts. So I thought I'd throw this out here to see what courses you might have found that have been worth the money?

For myself, I've paid for a number of course (and I've shelled out a lot of money for some). Here are my thoughts on a couple:
James Patterson's Master Class ($97) - this was an interesting course. I can't really say I "learn" a lot of concrete information about writing or publishing, but I still think it was worth the money. I ended up getting some great ideas on how I could change my habits and my writing process to suit my needs.
Mark Dawson's Self-publishing 101 (somewhere around $375) - For me it wasn't worth the money. But it's a beginning self-publishing course and by the time I enrolled, I had already published 6 books. I have however, recommended it to my sister and other new indie-authors. This really was one where it the '101' part of the title should have warned me before I invested the money. It did however get me a discount on his Ads course (FB, Twitter, etc) and my Instafreebie membership which helped offset this so my 'wasted' money was more like ($275).

Any recommended (or not) courses that I could check out?

Do you have a link for those?
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j p lundstrom wrote:

OH, MY GOD! How we do go off on tangents! Can you really imagine yourself going back over years of old reviews to alter them? What a waste of time! I've blocked four people in the three years of my membership, one of whom appeared to be a seriously sick individual who talked about kidnappings and torture. Sol fixed that situation. If he says he will fix something, he will.
Admittedly, it's annoying to see that someone you blocked can still rewrite their old reviews (which is what I understood you to mean). If that happens, can't you delete those reviews?
But do you really care? Who wants to waste their time on a Hatfield-McCoy feud? (Apologies, Dill--I'm not well-versed enough in history to refer to an English rivalry.)

JP
I so agree with you. This might be a good time to remind people of my group, 'Fight Club.' Anyone can join, you can rant about a person (without mentioning their name unless they agree to 'fight' with you.) in the forums, say what you want short of threatening physical violence, (which might get you in legal trouble). You can also invite the person you're upset with to join through this forum if they have you blocked, and you two can be as mean and sarcastic as you want. Others can join in if they want.

The only other thing I ask is do not whine to me about what other people are saying to and about you. I created the group so people could vent without going on a tangent in a thread unrelated to said tangent.

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Dill Carver wrote:
Janet Taylor-Perry wrote:

Yes, if you type in the person's name in the search bar on your home page, it will take you to a possible list of authors and then click on that author. Once on their profile page, there is an option to block. If the person has you blocked, when you get to the profile page, it will tell you the author's profile is private.


This is correct. Or should I say, this exactly the same experience that I encounter.  If someone has blocked me from accessing their work, I no longer have the permission required to block them from mine. That Author's profile, is as Janet says, marked private. The 'block' button does  not appear.

Dill,
I can access a person's profile who've blocked me. I've done in twice with two different people. BUT when I tried to access a third, it said: This member's profile is private.

I think I know why. If you go to your profile settings you'll find a box that says: Make my profile page visible to: and a drop down menu with two options: Everyone or Only to logged in users that are not blocked.

Your 'troll' must have picked that option and that is why you can not block them.

I don't know if that's a loophole or not.

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Janet Taylor-Perry wrote:

Yes, if you type in the person's name in the search bar on your home page, it will take you to a possible list of authors and then click on that author. Once on their profile page, there is an option to block. If the person has you blocked, when you get to the profile page, it will tell you the author's profile is private.

Okay, in the post I left before and since deleted, I made a mistake: the person hadn't blocked me. So I went to an author I knew for sure had blocked me and it's just as Janet said. That author, though, is blocked by me, too. How did I happen to block someone who had me blocked? This is weird.
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I think I have this figured out. I went to another writer I know for sure blocked me, and I could access their profile. Could it be that the first author I went to made their work inaccessible to the web?
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