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I did wonder what happened to Tom Oldman - hadn't forgotten your name yet. Sorry to hear about your injury, but glad to hear you're on the mend.

Thanks, D A!  Once you get that first contract, you've got a foot in the door. The publisher gets to know you, and you establish relationships with editors, marketers, et al. Not a guarantee of future contracts, but it helps. The publishing industry is changing rapidly. I self-published my first two books - back when I knew nothing about marketing, and sales were poor. So I went looking for a publisher that didn't require an agent middleman and found one. But after two more books, that publisher sold out to a larger, NY firm that didn't know me. I now have two publishers who differ in their philosophies, giving me more than one option when pitching a new book.

But if you don't mind doing everything yourself - including marketing! - self-publishing can be quite successful. And the advantage is that you control everything. And take all the profits! For me, I'd rather have someone else do some of the heavy lifting.

I'm certainly no publishing expert, but I'd be happy to share my experiences with anyone who's interested.   jdeboer@nc.rr.com

Thanks - both Janets! I WILL be busy again when the editing starts, and then with the marketing when it comes out. The fun part of writing the book is over!

Gig Harbor is a lovely place. Went there by boat a few times when I lived in Washington. Good to see you on the mainland! I probably missed the story of how that came about.

My publisher arranged for a NetGalley run. Lots of requests for the book resulted in only two reviews. So you did much better than I, SP.

Ha! Doivetails with my post for another thread in this group today. I watched True Detective (the second season) and couldn't make it all the way through the first episode. Last year's series was good, but this one wandered way too much and was incoherent, IMO. But I thought Vaughn did a credible job in a serious role.

Never saw The Killing. But I like Seattle!

When I was a kid, Mel Allen was the voice of the Yankees. Then Garagiola replaced him, and I resented that. But Joe went on to be a great broadcaster.

Jeez, a gazillion posts since the recommendation to preview "The Martian" and see how bad the writing is. Well, I did that this morning. And I didn't find anything outrageous or outre. It was a log, and I thought it read like a log would. No "showing" or dialogue applied. I don't get the sneering. But I only read a few pages. Does the author lose all sense of literacy further on? Just curious, since I didn't see anything, even if it were written by a TNBW author, to nit about.