Well, Cary Grant was told to go there, if my memory serves. But there were other plot holes in that film, and they didn't bother me. Great movie!
I discovered a minor plot hole in my novel, "Teammates," that no TNBW reviewer spotted, and it got past my picky-picky editor as well. So I'm going to fix it. Somebody, out of the millions who will read the book, would be bound to spot it. 
So as not to appear like I'm ignoring your post, Dags, even though we've discussed this in another venue, your suggestion didn't work - just made the glitch smaller. But thanks for trying to help!
Okay, Sol, the scroller still doesn't go to the bottom of my connections list when I want to send a message to one of the last two names on the list. Now I can see the names I couldn't before, but my last two connections - including you - aren't visible. If I make two more connections, then your name will show on the list, it seems. Can't this bug be fixed? I'd hate to make new connections just so I can send a private message to a now-hidden-from-view older connection.
Speaking of Tommy Lee Jones, how about, "U.S. Marshals"? Same theme, actually, as with "The Fugitive." But I'd put "Bullitt" and "Heat" above it. "The French Connection" deserves a nod as well. And how can we forget "Dirty Harry"?
So you start from the bottom of the list and go up? What is this, Chinese? Okay, if that's the drill, I'll accept it. I guess. But you haven't explained how I got .03 points deducted for posting a poem on Premium when I did no such thing. The point value is miniscule, but it suggests a flaw in the system.
Hey, Mrs. Piddles - No sweat starting the group. I know there are quite a few Romance writers here who should want to join. In fact, I'm surprised there hasn't been such a group started already. I predict it would have the most members of any of the groups. So pick a logo/icon/photo for the group, decide if you want it free or for points, and do it.
Sol, I inadvertently posted this issue in my sub-group, so am repeating it here. Today I looked at my points for the first time and found, to my dismay, that I lost 10 points while reviewing! I mean, what's up with that? You're supposed to GET points for reviewing, right? I didn't post new content or edit old content - just did reviews. A list of points gained for each review added up to 9.77. Yet I lost ten points. And I had .03 points deducted because I posted one of my poems to Premium - only I didn't do that. It's just in my portfolio. What's going on here?
I forgot to respond to Dagnee's comment re gaming the system. There may have been members who did what you described, but I didn't see a problem there. Rarely would I review a chapter that paid only a few points but ended up being quite long. So it did happen, but I doubt it was intentional. And an author who does that routinely will be quickly found out and punished by losing reviewers. Posting vs publishing is semantics; of course I meant posting content, not forum talk.
There is obviously a misunderstanding here. What I was pointing out was that to post a story into this group, it now costs points to do so. The easiest solution to avoid spending points would be to post the story in the Free TNBW group. But then the advantage of posting in your genre, and thus making it easier for people to find your posting, would be lost. I'm a thriller writer, so if I'm looking for a new thriller posting, I would come to this group. As an example, Janet Taylor-Perry is a member of this group, but she posted her latest story in the TNBW Free group, with thousands of members. Someone who doesn't know her would have to stumble upon the posting by accident.
So I don't think it's complicated, Dags. You've posted in this group. Right now it will cost you points to do so. But if we make our group free, it won't, and you'll still have the advantage of having your story in the appropriate genre group.
Cobber, there's no "extra" points required to post into this group. It costs the same no matter what points-required group you post into. And posting in this forum or the general forum obviously doesn't cost any points. I posted this issue in our forum, because it only involves our members. For topics relevant to TNBW members at large, the Premium or Free forums would be the appropriate venue.
I started the group using the old incentive system - get points by reviewing so you can spend them on posts - because I liked it. But if the TMS members prefer to make it a free site, that's easily changed.
Clear as mud now?
To TMS members: Sol recently has reverted back to the old policy of allowing editing without costing more points to do so. That, I like. But he recommended that when new groups are started they have a no-points-required-to-post policy. If all groups adopt this, I see it leading to a free-for-all of postings and unbalanced vis a vis the reviewing side of the author's function. If it costs nothing to post, an author would need no points for reviewing, and such points would become worthless. Personally, I liked the old system, wherein one needed to review to accumulate points in order to use them to post. But what say you? Should we become a free group? Using the 60% rule they use in the Senate, I'll change the group to free if that is the group's decision.
If all the groups become no-points-required for posting, then getting points for reviewing would be essentially worthless. I thought the old system worked well. Authors accumulated points for doing the work of reviewing, and in return, they could post their own stuff. Now it'll be a free-for-all, with the only governor in the process being reciprocity. Maybe that's a good thing; I don't know. I'll canvass the members of my group to see what they think.
Sol, I understand your rationale for charging points to edit - to prevent gaming of the system - but I think it should be more reasonable. As it stands, and I think Don Chambers voiced this same concern, an author might tend to not edit if it will cost them points. Then the site manuscript would be unchanged, and more reviews would point out the same issues over and over again - not helpful to the author. How about a safe haven, like, say up to a hundred words of addition without accruing additional cost?
Click on the magnifying glass icon at the top of the page, then type in the author you want to contact. Easy-Peasy.
Okay, I just tried it again. Now JudyS781 is clearly visible, but the next name in the list is not. Is this a time issue? The last two names were connected in the last two days.
I do use IE. Did you try going down my list of connections in the send-a-message page? My first connection listed is Dagnee; my last connection is j l mo. After Judys781 - and that listing is barely visible - the scroller stops. I can see the names after Judys781 by scrolling on the names themselves, but I can't click on them; if I try, it sends me back to Dagnee.
No, I don't get a second-page option. I can see the last names on the list if I scroll down the names instead of using the scroller, but I can't click on them. If I try, it sends me back to the first name on the list.
Sol, when I scroll down my list of connections in order to send a private message, it stops before reaching the bottom of the list. As a result, I can't click on a name near the bottom of the list in order to send that person a message. Is there a way to reorganize the list so that all names are accessible?
Hey, Janet - As far as I'm concerned, the group is there for like-minded authors to talk about the genre, give - and receive - advice/tips. Don't feel like you have to post your stories in the sub-group. If I were you, I'd post them in the Premium group. Members of the sub-groups to which you belong - and your connections - will be made aware of the posting. And it will get you a larger audience. Think of the TMS group as a place to have a cup of coffee and chat about the genre. That's why I started it - not to develop an elite clique.
I'm back! Jeez, I've posted more stuff in the forum in the last few days than I did in six years at the old site. Okay, something I noticed today - twice. I'm reviewing a chapter, then leave that page for whatever and come back to finish. Now I'm told I won't receive any points for the review because I ALREADY REVIEWED IT! What's with that? Okay, I don't really need the points, but what if a "War and Peace" -like posting is in my future? Can never have enough points!
I wanted to send a message to one of my connections, but the scroller wouldn't go down far enough to allow me to see the entire list - and it was my last connection to whom I wanted to send the message. So, as an alternative, if I click on the private messaging system button on the author's page, will what I type in the Quikee box then be a private message?
Okay, but my novels are listed just as blanks - neither active nor inactive.
I don't know what that means - active vs inactive. My poems and short story are ancient compared to my novels. None have had a review in years - long before any of the novels had received a review. So I don't get it.
Sol, I inadvertently posted this in my group, so I'm repeating it here, thinking it would come to your attention in this venue. I saw in my Portfolio list my poems and short story were given a "Yes" under the "Active" column, but my novels were given blanks in that column. So what does "Active" mean?
I went to my Portfolio list and saw my poems and short story listed as "Yes" under the "Active" column. But my novels had blanks in that column. What does "Active" mean?
