Alvin York is a good example of a backwoods type who becomes a hero when thrust into war. Another would be Audie Murphy, born of a sharecropper family in Texas, who lied about his age to be accepted in the Army during WWII, and who received just about every award given to soldiers, including two Silver Stars and the Medal of Honor.
552 2015-10-01 10:58:48
Re: Chapter Word Length (26 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Linda - Thanks for the input re your personal experience, though it surprises me that agents would advise altering a chapter based solely on word length. My experience differs, having dealt with editors of three different traditional publishers. In no instance was chapter length an issue, and my chapters have ranged from ~ 1000 words to well over 3000. I've yet to deal with agents though, and your experience makes me think that's been a good thing. ![]()
553 2015-09-30 18:31:05
Re: Chapter Word Length (26 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
JP - If there were "rules," I'd follow them. But there aren't, and I challenge anyone to substantiate a rule for chapter length. In your competition, though, I see the need for a length sufficient to show your stuff.
Linda - You state that "nearly all" agents and publishers have accepted norms for chapter length, depending on genre. Do you have any evidence for this? Because my research reveals just the opposite - that chapter lengths depend on the story context and can vary widely. Now novel length is a different story. There are "norms" for those, depending on genre. The rule of thumb, though, is to shoot for 80 - 90K. Exceptions: Sagas (think Michener) in this range are likely to be rejected out of hand, and thrillers way above this range will be given the boot, too.
554 2015-09-29 21:08:42
Re: Chapter Word Length (26 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
JP - Was this supposed to be a chapter contest you entered? Then I could see that requirement. But otherwise, I can't. A chapter is what it is: you have a beginning and an end. If it doesn't have an "end," then it doesn't constitute a chapter, in my view. There has to be at least a pause at the end, hopefully a hook, to prod the reader to the next chapter. I've seen chapters of two pages in bestsellers and chapters that are longer than 3000 words - in the same novel! If anyone tries to tell you what chapter-length limits are, you can disregard that so-called advice.
555 2015-09-25 00:36:29
Re: Yogi, gone but not forgotten (12 replies, posted in Thriller/Mystery/Suspense)
Hey, Dags! Yeah, I combined a couple of Yogi-isms. I always got a kick out of his sayings, much of which made perfect sense knowing the context. For example: "If you come to a fork in the road, take it." That comes from a direction to his house in Montclair, N.J., where my parents lived for a few years. The road divides and reforms later, so it doesn't matter which road you take. "It gets late early there" refers to the shadows that descend on the field (I think left field) in Yankee Stadium as the sun sets. "Thank you all for making this necessary" was said on a Yogi Berra Night honoring him back in the day. "I never said all those things I said" was in response to an interviewer asking him about those sayings attributed to him. "Nobody goes there anymore; it's too crowded." He was talking about a nightspot that became too popular and crowded foir him to want to go there. "You can't hit and think at the same time." As one who has stood in the batter's box facing a pitcher with a wild fastball, I can attest that's true! One of my favorites that absolutely makes no logical sense: The pizza guy asked him if he should cut the pizza into four or six slices. Yogi (supposedly) replied: "Better make it four. I don't think I could eat six."
I didn't know that Yogi was at D-Day in WWII. He came back from the war, a few of his youth years taken from him, to go on as a Yankee legend. And the fans were not kind in the beginning, calling him an ape, a misfit, and such. They learned quickly he was a force to be reckoned with. And now he's a beloved hero. I was interviewed a couple of moinths ago for a book promo, and one of the questions was who, if I could choose anybody now or in the past I'd like to have dinner with, who would it be, and I chose Yogi Berra.
556 2015-09-24 21:57:45
Re: Yogi, gone but not forgotten (12 replies, posted in Thriller/Mystery/Suspense)
Predicting is hard, especially about the future, but I bet anyone who doesn't go to Yogi's funeral will not see Yogi at theirs.
557 2015-09-23 17:51:24
Re: Yogi, gone but not forgotten (12 replies, posted in Thriller/Mystery/Suspense)
Yogi was one of a kind. His records for the Yankees, his malapropisms that really weren't, his infectious personality - will live on.
558 2015-09-21 21:56:01
Re: My new website! (6 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Way to go, Janet. I left you a Contact message. E-mail me, and as Joan Rivers used to say, "We'll talk." ![]()
559 2015-08-27 23:45:50
Re: Male to Female Ratios (99 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Yay! You nailed it, Dags.
560 2015-08-19 21:00:07
Re: Getting ready to launch (2 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Tell me if the countdown thing works for you, Janet. I'm running out of new ideas!
561 2015-08-18 21:28:40
Re: Beta Readers (7 replies, posted in Thriller/Mystery/Suspense)
I hope this group is still active! Hey, I'm an absentee landlord, and not really a landlord at that. JP does a good job with her quizzes in her group, and they're fun. But I don't want to insert myself into this group, in which everybody can do his or her own thing. I can lend a hand with your story, Linda, if you need it.
562 2015-08-17 18:38:10
Re: POP COP QUIZ #19 The Bad Guys II (4 replies, posted in Cop Shop)
1. We're No Angels
2. Night of the Hunter
5. Sounds like Cape Fear, but the bad guy in that was released, and didn't escape, from prison.
9. The Great Escape
10. The Fugitive
I'll do some thinking on the rest.
563 2015-08-15 14:33:16
Re: POP COP QUIZ #18 The Bad Guys (2 replies, posted in Cop Shop)
1. Ma Barker
2. Clyde Barrow
3. Bonnie Parker
4. Pretty Boy Floyd
5. John Dillinger
6. Baby Face Nelson
7. Machine Gun Kelly
8. Wilhelm Loesser
9. Edna Murray
10. Willie Sutton
565 2015-07-31 20:31:00
Re: my dear, dear friends (28 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Aw, jeez. I am so sorry, my friend.
566 2015-07-11 20:18:19
Re: Marketing tips (18 replies, posted in Marketing Your Writing)
I just finished a blog tour - that cost me nothing except time spent in interviews and blog posts. No giveaways were involved, though some of the bloggers ran contests in conjunction that had nothing to do with me or my book.
The deals Wal-Mart makes are not author-driven. Publishers have had to bow to the giant retailers like Wal-Mart- still another reason the BIG Five are loath to take a chance with unestablished writers, since their bottom lines have been hurt seriously in recent years. I have yet to see a current bestseller offered with deep discounts, but maybe they exist. Anyway, my publisher sets the price without my input, anyway, so even if I wanted to boost sales - and thus ranking - by offering deep discounts, I couldn't. I did do a Riffle promotion after getting permission from my previous publisher, and this did result in a big sales uptick, so there's no question it works. But I still think it's gaming the system. Not as blatant as getting PACs to buy thousands of copies of a politician's book to get on the NYT bestseller list, but it does use the system that's in place to manipulate ranking. Gaming, manipulating, marketing, what's in a name?
Anyway, a self-published author can do more to "market" in this way, and I've got no objection, other than my above concern that the practice will tend to devalue the output of indie authors. If you can find me an example of a new Coben, Child, DeMille, Connelly, Sandford et al e-book being offered for 99 cents, please let me know, and I'll download forthwith!
Indie musicians are seeing their work offered for free or almost so all the time, and this new streaming venture by Apple will likely make this worse. Michael Smerconish had a guest on his Sirius radio show last week (I can't recall his name) who was touted as being an expert of the iTunes world. Smerconish said, "That sounds great. But how do the musicians get paid?" He asked this question at least three times and never did get a satisfctory answer.
Bottom line, if it works for what you want to get out of the bookselling business, by all means do it. But if landing a top literary agent and then a contract with HarperCollins is one's goal, giving away and selling for 99 cents thousands of books is not likely to accomplish it, Amazon ranking notwithstanding.
567 2015-07-11 16:02:51
Re: Marketing tips (18 replies, posted in Marketing Your Writing)
You paid for a blog tour, Penang? What, paid somebody to arrange it for you? That would save you time but that money would be better spent on other promotional venues, in my view. And who knows how a blogger on a blog tour will affect sales down the road. The purpose is getting your name out there; the more subscribers a blogger has, the greater the exposure.
Steep discounts game the ranking system while contributing to the growing expectation among consumers of books (and music) that the author's creation should be available for next to nothing and, therefore, not worth much, human nature being what it is. Sure, your name will get out there with all the cheapies and freebies, but the danger is that the name will then be associated with a second-class product. You don't see established authors doing this, and a comparison with these intro discounts and let's say a Proctor & Gamble offering coupons for a new product isn't valid, in my view. I'm concerned about the trend that is working against the potential livelihoods of indie authors and musicians.
568 2015-07-09 17:12:49
Re: Prologue's (37 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Ha! Good one, Max!
569 2015-07-06 19:14:25
Re: Amazon set to pay self-published authors as little as $0.006 per page (5 replies, posted in Marketing Your Writing)
I would assume they're keeping track via the progress bar that tells you what percentage of any given ebook you've read.
Ha! I didn't know there was such a peeping device. Shows how old I am!
570 2015-07-06 18:57:17
Re: Prologue's (37 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
You're right about there being a fine line between a "Prologue" and a "Chapter 1." I used Clive Cussler as an example above. The Chapter 1s in his books are prologues, in my understanding of the term, though I can't remember if he calls them such. But they usually are about something that happens in the past that will play a role in his story, but not be a part of it, if I'm making any sense. It sets up the adventure which will start sometime in the future. It happens, it's over, and then we go to the present day. To me, that's a prologue, regardless of the nomenclature. But I have no problem naming such a setup Chapter 1. And what difference does it really make? The reader knows it's a prologue as soon as he starts to read the next chapter. So this is much ado about not much, in my opinion. If your agent/editor/publisher frowns on prologues, for whatever reason, make them Chapter 1s instead.
571 2015-07-06 18:10:15
Re: Prologue's (37 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Where would Clive Cussler's novels be without prologues?
572 2015-07-03 18:55:43
Re: Marketing tips (18 replies, posted in Marketing Your Writing)
1. Social media. Show folks who you are and what you write. Tweet a lot and get followers. Avoid the constant "Buy my book" tweets, but get your name out there in other ways by retweeting others and tweeting on non-book-related topics. Get an author page on Amazon, then post a link to it and your website on your Facebook page.
2. Reviews. Solicit book bloggers to review your book. Some bloggers do interviews and offer guest posts in addition to reviews. There are websites that will solicit reviewers for you for a fee, like Choosy Bookworm and Net Galley. Review swaps are tricky, now that Amazon is looking hard at reviews between writers with a professional relationship or know each other personally, but possible if done right.
3. Creativity in tagging your book on Amazon. If you can make the genre of yoor book narrow enough, wherein there aren't thousands of books competing with it, you would have a shot of being in the top 100 of books sold on Amazon in that category. And that would make you an "Amazon Bestseller" which you can use to promote it. Amazon has recently changed its book classification descriptions, making it easier to carve out subgenres. Say you have written a historical novel. Is there crime, adventure, or romance in it? Does it take place in an exotic location? Adding these tags can help your book stand out. Take a look at some books for sale on Amazon, and you'll see what I mean.
I'm certainly not an expert in marketing, but the above are things I've done and am doing for promotion. Good luck!
573 2015-07-03 17:57:20
Re: Amazon set to pay self-published authors as little as $0.006 per page (5 replies, posted in Marketing Your Writing)
I'm obviously missing something. I thought you downloaded an entire book, not page by page of a book. So how would Amazon know the number of pages actually read after the download?
574 2015-07-03 17:27:49
Re: Using Third Person Omniscient POV (26 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Here's a link to an examination of the omniscient POV: www.scribophile.com/academy/using-third-person-omniscient-pov.
575 2015-07-03 17:07:43
Re: Using Third Person Omniscient POV (26 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
In most books I read: Fantasy, Thriller, Sci-fi, general fiction, there is very little head-hopping in chapters. Usually the POV is consistent within the chapter.
My editors will not allow me to use omniscient even if I wanted to. Very strict on establishing whose POV we're in at the start of each chapter. And a change in POV would entail a break in the scene. No head-hopping allowed!