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Oh me, oh my, clickity click, too many clicks. Hmm, just wondering how many clicks folks make to type out their reviews as opposed to the minimal clicks to open a tiny box to read what someone has spent the time clicking, clicking, clicking, in order to help improve the work being reviewed. Let's see, in typing class we did exercises by typing as fast as we could without regard to mistakes, just clicking away. Well if you do that, it is amazing how many clicks one can make - several a second. So I'm guessing that the time to click on a great big highlighted area (even if only one word) is kind of like typing as fast as you can since you don't have to be concerned about making a mistake. Extrapolating, the cumulative time to click on 10, 20, 30 little boxes or so is like maybe a few seconds compared to the say 30 minutes to an hour someone spends clicking to write that review. And the wear and tear on the knuckles is probably proportional too; jeez, I got cramps with that last review, lol. So, yeah, I'm not really impressed with the clickity click objections to inline reviews.

If Sol wants to make all the little boxes open at once or put them on the side, no problem, I'm certainly not adverse to making things easier, but until that time, you have choices folks. Use whichever method works for you, or better yet, use whichever method works for any reviewers you might have. That's my few clicks; well, a whole lot of clicks, but guess what, it didn't really take that long. Take care. Vern

I joined the old site simply to get impartial reactions/reviews of my writing. I learned a lot in the process and continue to learn and hopefully pass on some tidbits here and there.

As to the regular vs inline review: They both are useful of course, but I would disagree with anyone who puts limits on the inline compared with a regular review - quite the opposite is true for me. There is nothing you can do in a regular review which can't be done as well or better in an inline and in less time. The inline offers the capability to comment on any single words, sentences, para, entire story/chapter as well as punctuation and the author knows exactly which unit you are referring to. You can comment on flow, dialogue, characters, plot, or anything else which could be covered in a regular review and do with more ease by not having to type or copy/paste the material you are commenting on. You can go back and edit the comments, or add completely new comments in a separate box should something new occur to you even after you have closed the review. You can comment on other peoples inline reviews and vice versa. You can get responses from the author and respond back and forth to make clarifications should you wish without having to go into a feedback forum or some type messaging system outside the original review.

As for free members not being able to see inline reviews, that should provide at least some minimal incentive to become a premium member once they understand the full potential of the inline review - I think most do not. I don't know if free members receive notification that they have gotten an inline review or not, but if not, they should to let them know they are missing a valuable part of the benefits provided by the site.

If you can't publish without points, the points system does indeed provide the impetus to review others at least until enough points have been accumulated to last your writing lifetime. By that time, many who might have been reluctant reviewers at first have learned to enjoy the review process in itself and will continue to review even if they don't need the points. Although there are those rare individuals who from the start give great reviews without regard to gathering points, for most it is a matter of "you get what you pay for" if for no other reason than the time factor involved and you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.

Take care. Vern

Anywhere within the text it lights up and is clickable; outside the text it does nothing. Guess that would be a text-long defined button, lol. Take care. Vern

Edited to add: Except the "Show Subscribed Topics" which is the longest "button" already, extends slightly beyond the text, but whose counting; I mean, I should be able to hit somewhere in any of them even after a few too many drinks.

All good improvements and the "Show your posts" is a particularly great/useful enhancement. Thanks. Take care. Vern

Actually, it can be done or at least it could be before the word limit was extended (haven't tried it since) because I did it in order to get all my comments in. I simply clicked on the already highlighted area and it produced another comment box. Take care. Vern

You should be able to highlight more than one section within a para as I've done it on many occasions. It might help if you highlight from right to left vs left to right and maybe skip at least a sentence (or several words anyway) between the two portions highlighted. I have had the problem you refer to on occasion when it would highlight more than I wanted, but could mostly get around it going right to left though sometimes it just insists on putting in extra words which I simply accept and go on, trying to clarify in my statements. Take care. Vern

I agree the off topic posts should be deleted from the original Site Bugs 2 thread and have deleted mine. Ladies and gentlemen start your engines, the track has been cleared of foreign debris. Take care. Vern

Edited to delete remark about not being able to use the "quote" box on the copied/pasted version; seems now you can. How did you do that?

There is no separate version link; you just number the chapter as any other except you add a version number to the number of the chapter - it has nothing to do with the "name" of the chapter. Say you wanted to create a second version of chapter 3, then you just add a new chapter and number it as chapter 3, V 2. If you don't want to confuse readers with two chapter 3s then delete or deactivate the original chapter 3. Take care. Vern

Booksie is the publishing branch of tnbw. Just google Booksie to go there and find out what it is all about. Take care. Vern

There is no more "re-publish." You just create a new version and number it as version 1, 2, 3, etc of that chapter -  i.e. Chapter 1 (V 2). You may then deactivate, delete, or leave as is the original chapter. Take care. Vern

Edited to add (), but not sure they're really needed.

Yes, I agree the in-line review does make a girl's (or boy's, lol) much easier. It could still use a few tweaks, but Sol has already extended the limit in each comment box so I seldom run into that wall anymore - MAJOR IMPROVEMENT.  I think once people get more accustomed to using it, some of the real advantages will take hold. For instance folks can go in and comment on any of the comments left by other reviewers and/or the author and create a true feedback loop, but so far I have not found people taking advantage of this option. And of course the authors must do their part and not simply ignore all the highlighted comments when responding, instead just make a general response in the final comment box. I've made a few comments and seen a few others, but it is a rare commodity. Time will tell if the full potential of the site will be utilized by the majority. At any rate, it is still much better/easier than the past. Despite all the evidence to the contrary in advertised products, sometimes "new improved" actually is. Take care. Vern