As they say, there are deadlines and then there are deadlines. And of course there are moving deadlines. Anyway, if you made one those deadlines - some count, some don't; take your pick - then, good luck in the contest. Take care. Vern

poeticpassion21 wrote:

How long will it take to decide the winner?

Per the rules:
***
The deadline to submit material for Round I is March 31, 2014. The names of the six finalist in the Competition will be posted on TheNextBigWriter.com approximately four weeks later.

Round II: The manuscripts of the six finalists will be reviewed by the panel of final round judges. The judges will  be asked to evaluate how interested they would be in continuing onto Chapter 4, if it existed. This is the main criteria for judging the submission although grammar and punctuation will also be judging factors.

The winners will be announced on or arouond June 1, 2015.
***

Take care. Vern

Dee E. Volle wrote:

Hi - As a new  member I admit i procrastinated but the sales pitches advertised to outsiders was deceptive smile

Hmm, have you ever seen any advertisement that wasn't "deceptive?" It's kind of like politicians you know. Take care. Vern

IT'S NOT TOO LATE. The deadline is midnight, so do what you wish until that time. We all must learn from our mistakes; not to do so, now that is what I would consider unprofessional. Take care. Vern

As long as the transition shows the timeline for each chapter as you switch back and forth, I don't see that it would make any difference as far as the reader following the story or timeline. If the chapters are from different character POV, why would anybody expect them to be on the exact same timeline? If you follow the storyline from each character's perspective, then it is not really a flashback if you continue where you left off with that chapter previously, regardless of where the other character has gone in the meantime. One character could be a year ahead of another and what difference would it make until the two characters meet and hopefully by then they are in the same timeframe. Just my opinion. Take care. Vern

1,306

(8 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Basic)

If life were balanced, we'd all be sitting on a teeter-totter with no ups or downs and hence nothing to write about. A wise person once said, "If you want something done, ask the busiest person you know." Counterintuitive perhaps at first glance, but once you think about it, you realize that a busy person has found the determination and a way to get many things done without stopping to worry about not having enough time. If it's important, the time will come, if not, all the time in the world will make no difference. Hence, for me, my teeter-totter doesn't stay in one balanced position; it moves up and down with the momentum of my priorities at the moment. Take care. Vern

Norm wrote:

I simply invented something that I'll proibably call espresso, to liquify anthing put into it, with no toxic fumes, except for a few bubbles to help visualize the scene. I'm also considering naming it for its inventor, Gaius Olympus Octavian, using his initials, GOO, among other choices.

Thanks
Dirk

Hello, Dirk, why don't you just use a stew of bacteria; there are already types of bacteria which will eat about anything from oil to iron so it is highly feasible for some super-bacteria or more likely a stew of several types to be modified to do what you are looking for with little mess and hardly any room for anyone to claim it not within the realm of science fiction per se.  Just a little acid reflux at work here, lol. Take care. Vern

There's science and there's fiction and there is a continuum along which they run and the twain shall meet at some point called science fiction. Exactly where that point along the continuum is keeps moving according scientific advancement and an author's imagination. Pick your spot, it belongs to you and whoever you can convince to ride along with you in your endeavor to create the next best seller. To argue that one's own point is any more valid than the next person's is an argument in futility and egotism. That's my point along the continuum and like trying to argue against a religion with a true believer, any argument to the contrary to my position is futile. Take care. Vern

Sophia Bar-Lev wrote:

Hi, this is my first time submitting to the contest as I just joined this website and the Premium group very recently.  I was a little confused on how to go about it so I've posted the first three chapters of my novel as three posts, Chapter 1 -2 -3. Is that right? Or is it all supposed to be one post?  Please advise so I don't miss the deadline.  Thank you!

Your entry is listed for the contest. To check all entries go to the contest page (you can click on it from your home page) and click on "entries." Take care. Vern

1,310

(46 replies, posted in HodgePodge)

GPyrenees wrote:

Will you read on, ?
tongue

Yes, if I'm not too old, decrepit, and senile by then, lol. Take care. Vern

1,311

(11 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Bonnie Milani wrote:

Hey, Vern -
Of course, if I could just get about another 94,000 folks to buy the book, that'd solve the issue instantly!

Here's rooting for you. Take care. Vern

1,312

(11 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Congrats on the rave review. Let us know when the movie comes out; books are generally better for most genres, but  I prefer watching Sci-Fi to reading it - go figure. Take care. Vern

1,313

(46 replies, posted in HodgePodge)

GPyrenees wrote:

Ahhh.
I had a lousy and unproductive winter, how about you? (I'm relieved it's almost over.)

Well, after arguing for years with the payroll folks where I work about the taxability of reimbursements for insurance (which saves them money over their plan), providing them with the regulations and confirming with some of my wife's co-workers in the tax business to include one who worked for the IRS at one time solving such things and payroll of course just saying it was MY interpretation of the law, they have finally come around and just gave me enough raise to cover the reimbursements so I don't have to argue with them every year. You'd think they would've been happy to do this since it costs them about one-third of what it would cost if they provided me with their regular insurance plan.  So all in all, I guess that makes it a productive winter; I always like to win arguments, lol. Take care. Vern

1,314

(46 replies, posted in HodgePodge)

I have it on good authority that it is a combination of: He found out Wanda's sister is an alien who forced him to marry her thereby getting arrested for indecent exposure at the wedding ceremony which no one was sober enough to post bail and besides they were having too much fun with the sex operation performed by a group of rodeo clowns filming the new Fifty Shades of Porn movie using John as drummer for U-2 on the sound track which did indeed attract GP's agent who is currently working on a duel contract for John and GP to do a world tour promoting the Genesis of Client Relations starring John as the Dickhead Teacher getting divorced. That's the way I heard it. Take care. Vern

1,315

(3 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

If you forget to subscribe and get notices for threads just go to the "show your posts" box at the top when you come to the forums and it will give all the posts you have commented on in order. Take care. Vern

I doubt there is a way to "unread" the message and can't imagine such a thing being added. However, you don't need such a thing to jar your memory in this instance because you just created your own version of unreading with this thread and added a new word to our vocabulary at the same time. I mean, that's a lifetime achievement right there. Take care. Vern

HueytheHuey wrote:

I can not imagine why you have not received replies on this topic.  I am more than interested in your prospective group.  I would love to have something like this in my area.  Since I can not find such a place locally I shall stick myself to your group.  I am sticky since I have two young children and I'm always finding things stuck on my clothing from them.

If you'd have me I would love to be apart of what you are trying to create.  I shall await the stamp of approval or the boot and rejection.

They are gathering in another forum in the Premium Group. Click the link below and it should take you there. Take care. Vern  http://www.thenextbigwriter.com/forums/ … ewers.html

I want to see the movie. Take care. Vern

SolN wrote:

"You further agree not to utilize the Site for the purpose of advertising or solicitation without the express prior written consent of theNextBigWriter,..."

Using Kickstarter or some other crowd-funding site has become a legitimate way to raise money for various projects. I assumed the group's members could discuss and determine if they wanted to contribute or not. I have often seen requests on the forum soliciting support for a newly launched book, or asking for a review on Amazon or some other effort to help a member's book project.

I gave permission for Mikira to post something about her campaign on the site so this did not violate the site's terms and conditions. The clause in the member agreement really refers more to soliciting an unrelated business or a competitive business and not actual writing produced on the site. 

Sol

That should clarify it. Thanks. Take care. Vern

SolN wrote:

I see no problem at all with someone who has developed their book on the site and spent the time to help others (as Mikira has done) putting out a call for some help promoting their book. In fact, I encourage it.

Sol

I have no problem with what has transpired, but I certainly understand the opposition's point of view since as the request for funds is presented, it does seem to conflict with at least the spirit of the membership agreement which states:

"You further agree not to utilize the Site for the purpose of advertising or solicitation without the express prior written consent of theNextBigWriter,..."

Just a thought. Take care. Vern

The only thing I could suggest would be to deactivate all your work and any email notifications. You might also leave a message with any groups or connections you have. If you have no work available it is doubtful anyone outside those you correspond/review with would be knocking at the door so to speak. Or I suppose you could ask Sol to take you out of the system temporarily if that is easily done. Best wishes. Take care. Vern

1,322

(212 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

It seems to me a simple request for someone not to comment on your work is a far better method than resorting to impersonal technology, kind of like driving a nail with sledgehammer. Take care. Vern

1,323

(212 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

KHippolite wrote:

really don't understand the clamor for having a forum for every work posted. Doesn't make sense; the majority appear, get little attention and then are never heard of again, so what would be the purpose in creating all these thousands of feedback forums above what is already available.

Yes... I see from this that my statement has been misunderstood so I'll rephrase it slightly.

What's needed is a way to attach a forum link to a particular work. For example:

[Body of Work]
[Inline Reviews]
[Reviews]
[Additional Feedback]

The additional feedback link would drop you into the forum thread associated with the work. You would be able to read & post in this forum thread without needing to join the group. You would not need to go hunt down the group / forum that was discussing this body of work. You would not need to randomly guess that there was a thread on it in the first place.

Links are good, works for me. Take care. Vern

1,324

(212 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

janet reid wrote:
SolN wrote:

If authors really want more feedback, then pray tell why don't they offer some opinion on all the comments left in the inline review instead of only a few words in the final comment section. You can agree or disagree with what was said or even offer a totally different interpretation. You can question why the reviewer sees things that weren't intended at all or show why you chose to do something a particular way and start a conversation in which others could offer various points of view. In other words, you've got a forum built into the review process just as Sol envisioned and implemented.

This is the purpose of in-lines but I don't think we are fully there yet. The problem is that there is no notification when someone posts a comments so the author and others have no reason to go back to the in-line. We're working on a new version of the in-line review system that will address this and hopefully move more towards the vision I have for the tool. I do believe this is the place to focus the site's resources as opposed to building out the forum system.

I'm struggling to get my head around the practicality of using reviews, especially in-reviews, as discussion boards.

Reason for my concern is this:  A novel with 30 chapters, and an average of 5 in-line reviews per chapter, at an average of 10 in-line comments per review = 1500 in-line comments.  I'm not even considering if a writer has more than one novel active.  If only one comment every 2 chapters is discussed in more detail, that's 15 discussions spread over 30 chapters and 1500 in-line comments.  Not mentioning if two reviewers made the same suggestion, yet one group adds their views to review A and another group theirs to review B - and in the process, you now have two of the same conversations that don't follow each other.  From a writer's perspective, especially one that do not incorporate changes as they write on, this would be impossible to manage without going mad or without missing possibly some really good feedback.

So my question is, how would someone manage this?  Email alerts will drive me nuts (but that's just me) - traffic light patterns attached to in-line comments would probably work, but it doesn't negate the navigation require to get to this.  As already mentioned, having a feedback thread in more than one group is already problematic.  And I disagree that it takes the same effort to navigate in-line reviews compared to forums (1500 comments ...) - once you're on the forum page, you're going.  (I think the clicking involved with in-line reviews have been covered, so I'm not mentioning it).  How would this make it easier?

So although this functionality of in-line reviews specifically would be great, is it really what the intent is?  I have seen this many times over where something basic, but really effective morphs into a brilliant system that simply is too complicated and cumbersome to be used for its original purpose.  Fixing this would be even more painful.

KHip's proposal to have a "Facebook" kind of interface for each novel, that isn't part of the forums, seems less complex to me (from a user perspective, not necessarily a programmer's).

So, what am I missing here?  Sol, or is this what you're working on?

From my perspective, any author can start a forum on any piece of work they wish; you don't need anything special to do so. Now if said author can get reviewers to congregate at this forum, then said author could if they wish to do so get reviewers to leave comments on the inline review. They could even appoint their most prolific reviewer as the central review for others to comment on thus creating an inline forum. As far as thirty chapters go, I for one do edits one chapter at a time, so why would  want all those comments in a regular forum mixed up and spread over thirty chapters with no way to know which chapter a given comment was relating to. For instance a reviewer could enter comments on chapter 5 while others are entering comments on chapter 29, etc. I don't really want to wade through god knows how many pages of a forum to find who made what comment on each chapter so would most llikely do it as each chapter was being reviewed anyway if that were my only choice. However, with the inline, it is already divided into chapters so I can edit at my leisure without the ever repeating necessity to fish out those comments from a regular forum.

Now Sol has said he is working on improvements for the inline review process and if one such improvement already mentioned was to be able to scroll through the comments, then that would be wonderful and would diminish even further any need for any additional forum changes. I mean I don't care if forum upgrades are made, I just don't see any need as far as making a special effort for each author's work when they can do that already - I've even suggested that some authors do so for a particular work; still hasn't come about so I'm not sure what the broad appeal would be.

As is, you have a choice to do your own forum or to use the built in forum capability of the inline review (especially with potential upgrades) so I really don't understand the clamor for having a forum for every work posted. Doesn't make sense; the majority appear, get little attention and then are never heard of again, so what would be the purpose in creating all these thousands of feedback forums above what is already available.

But to each their own.  Take care. Vern

1,325

(212 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

bimmy wrote:

I want a pony.


Wait! I got that. Nevermind. I don't need anything.

How about a new saddle or a puppy to keep the pony and/or you company? Everybody needs something, lol. Take care. Vern