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Charles_F_Bell wrote:
vern wrote:
CFB wrote:

Absolutely, there is no determination of the value of the novella by the first three pages or first three chapters or all chapters until the very last word.

Anyone who thinks a sane person is going to read a 34,000 word (or thereabouts) novella with no merit until the very last word is obviously very proud of that last word. I suspect you should put that mindboggling word, whatever it is, a bit closer to the beginning. Take care. Vern

I have already said that you have no quality of mind to read it, and that is one purpose for the prologue -- to weed out the feeble-minded.

You obviously missed the part about thinking "a sane person" is going to read such a thing; those are the ones you weed out. Should you have reviewers to point to who have bravely gone where no man has gone before in a blind fog of irrelevance until the last word, I might suggest they have the incentive of the review process and possible reciprocation to lead them on to the promised land and possibly exempt them from the sanity clause -- maybe a pun there, who knows. Take care. Vern

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CFB wrote:

Absolutely, there is no determination of the value of the novella by the first three pages or first three chapters or all chapters until the very last word.

Anyone who thinks a sane person is going to read a 34,000 word (or thereabouts) novella with no merit until the very last word is obviously very proud of that last word. I suspect you should put that mindboggling word, whatever it is, a bit closer to the beginning. Take care. Vern

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CFB wrote:

Exactly the sort of thing that you would not understand: irony being both the purpose and method of farce - that the book is, as I announce in the tagline: a novel experience in serious farce.

DEFINITION:
farce
/färs/
noun
noun: farce; plural noun: farces

a comic dramatic work using buffoonery and horseplay and typically including crude characterization and ludicrously improbable situations.

synonyms: slapstick comedy, slapstick, burlesque, vaudeville, buffoonery
"the stories approach farce"

antonyms: tragedy
•the genre of farce.

•an absurd event.
"the debate turned into a drunken farce"


synonyms: mockery, travesty, absurdity, sham, pretense, masquerade, charade, joke, waste of time; informal shambles 
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So, which definition of "farce" are you using? I see nothing comedic within your verbiage. Additionally, to modify farce with "serious" as you do, seems to negate the purpose of farce, but then most of your arguments seem to negate either your current position or a prior one. I would concede that your literary depiction could be in the "absurd event" or "waste of time" category, but then it would be doubtful you would make that assertion about it, so please enlighten me. Take care. Vern

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Charles_F_Bell wrote:

The fact of the matter, evidenced in my more recent fiction writing, is I find value in expressing more in fewer words, and, in fact, point to the folly of the naturalist detailing every single fact{*} while entirely missing the context and meaning of facts.

Funny for one claiming to express more in fewer words to invite us to evidence his recent fiction writing where he takes an entire prologue to tell us a truck and car didn't collide -- brilliant. Of course you are correct in stating "the folly of the naturalist detailing every single fact" to a god-like figure who needs no sources other than his own infallibility. The thing with gods or worshipers thereof is that the only truth is what the god-like figure says it is and nothing can be said or produced to counter such an entrenched faith. If the Earth, yeah the entire universe, was collapsing around you, it would mean nothing if you said otherwise. Your mind is just as set in concrete as the rules of language you insist are set in concrete. It is as pointless to debate/discuss with you as to try the same with a stump or other brain-washed religious fanatic. No proof is acceptable because you believe only in your godlike infallibility. Yet there are still times when charity and hope bring me back into the fruitless cause of trying. This is another of those moments when the possibility of a miracle slips into my thoughts though I know it too will soon join the pile of wasted effort strewn about the forums. Consider me a sucker for lost causes. Take care. Vern
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If movies, books, art, etc. were plucked off the market after the first week of less than fantastic sales, then the first week would be a clear indicator of success, but thankfully the market and business gurus don't measure that way so couch potato critics ascribing success to first week numbers is rather asinine to say the least. Take care. Vern

Don't see a problem here. You can place the story on "inactive" as soon as it is published should you desire to do so and continue editing until the cows come home before making it active again. I dare say it would be a million to one shot if anyone could sneak in a review in the time it takes to click the "inactive" button. And hey, if someone beats those odds congratulate them and then get them to buy you, no me, a lottery ticket. Take care. Vern

Zamboni

prenuptial

Only Jacques Cousteau knows for sure

Voyage-to-the-bottom-of-the-sea

Vermaxcular

lol, Dillerious

skinny pigs

oxybuttinout

You might also wish to fill out your profile information to further introduce yourself to those who click on your name. Good writing. Take care. Vern

Norm d'Plume wrote:

Hmm. I used to write technical manuals...

Now we know who to blame, lol. Take care. Vern

j p lundstrom wrote:

I don't consider myself a dummy (no matter what they say) but I recognize my needs. After all, I'm the one who didn't know how to reverse the quotation marks when needed. I always go for the manual as soon as I get an update, a new computer, or any new gadget. And I always have the same experience: within minutes I'm asleep.

I thought this would end after a few years, when lots of people became knowledgeable, but so far, no such luck. The condition remains: Technical writers don't know how to write!

If it's in print, sentences are convoluted, filled with jargon we "dummies" don't understand. Who can blame us for not understanding a foreign language?

If it's a video, the presenter wastes time with useless allusions and analogies, then zips over new procedures so fast they don't register. Or else, the action is obscured by the presenters hands or body or the camera angle isn't right. Forgive me, but I can only watch a thing so many times!

So what if I don't have a very long attention span, or my patience runs out, or I'm distracted by real life? I can't be the only human being with these problems. That doesn't make me a dummy! I have a healthy IQ, I can communicate with others, and I usually can make sense of what I'm told.

IT'S NOT US; IT'S THEM!

JP

I wasn't referring to the technical manuals (everything you mention about them is true), rather the real book titled "Word For Dummies" and I was literally a computer dummy, having virtually never used one before, but the book was easy to understand and follow directions even for me. If you haven't tried it, perhaps if would help; if you actually have tried it rather than the standard manuals and still found it confusing, then thanks for letting me know I'm a whiz kid and didn't know it, lol. Take care. Vern

No oxy needed

Oxymoron

Hello, AT, you might try Word For Dummies (like I was). I bought the2007 version years ago and it shows all kinds of things you can do. I assume they have updated versions in paper or digital for the newer models. Well worth the cost to prevent wasting time on seemingly minor things as what you stated. Take care. Vern

America

I would have got all them not wrong if I wrote it after now. Took care. Vern

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GPyrenees wrote:

So I come on to the site and...

No word from Hamler
No word from Vern
Nothing decent to read

I'm like --- wtf??

Well, Vern is still around - been playing nurse maid mostly - not sure about John. I've been waiting on you to post your finished novel so I can give you a bad ass review. Only the lonely ... know the way I feel tonight, whoa, whoa. Take care. Vern

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjq4wYuwgxs

Me too

non-virgin