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Charles_F_Bell wrote:vern wrote:Charles F Bell wrote:At which point, by action, the braggadocio, then and only then, becomes relevant. But through the last 40 years of Trump's life, no such accusation ever came forward until three weeks before a Presidential election (and uncorroborated) - unlike for Bill Clinton, and, by the way, for Bill Cosby where all along through decades there had been some accusations of indecent conduct.
The assertion that nothing has shown up over the past 40 years until the current round being decried as politically motivated is simply incorrect as any reasonably competent research would show.
There is no research that anyone has competently accused Tump of sexual misconduct prior to this time when anyone can accuse him while shielded from suit for slander because of his candidacy..
vern wrote: There is no defense for Trump or those who support him on this count. Take care. Vern
The defense is that he has not done anything wrong.
Your claim was that in referring to these what you describe as uncorroborated stories that "... no such accusation ever came forward until three weeks before a Presidential election." My claim is that if you do a simple competent search, it will show clearly that there were numerous incidents prior to Trump's presidential candidacy, so therefore, the stories coming to light now are not the only ones and these current ones weren't recently fabricated because they were told to others long ago when the assaults happened. Now they may have been intimidated, traumatized, embarrassed, etc. at the time to stop them from going public, but that doesn't discredit them for coming forth now as concerned citizens and victims to dispute Trump's lies about it being merely locker room banter.
You saying Trump's defense is that he has done nothing wrong when he admits his sexual assault on tape is ludicrous. It's kind of like a kid - which his behavior and temperament resemble - saying they didn't eat the chocolate cake when it's smeared all over their face. Take care. Vern
njc wrote:US law recognizes that an employer is in a position of power over the employee, and creates a much higher hurdle to demonstrate that the consent was free. Surely that hurdle must be even higher when the employer occupies an executive office of government.
Higher standards doesn't mean "no" standards or automatic guilt as you implied in your previous statement. And despite decades of accusations and research with all the resources available from the Republican witch hunters, no evidence has come forth to indicate Bill forced himself on women as Trump freely and gleefully admits on tape. Take care. Vern
Edited to add omitted automatic guilt
njc wrote:Can an employee in the Oval Office be considered a freely consenting partner? What about Gennifer Flowers?
What is your point? Are you saying no one can have free consent in the Oval Office? If you walked into the Oval Office, are you saying Bill or any other president could stick it to you without your consent? What about Gennifer Flowers? Are you offering a long term affair as proof that she had no consent? You're going to need more than that argument. Take care. Vern
Charles F Bell wrote:At which point, by action, the braggadocio, then and only then, becomes relevant. But through the last 40 years of Trump's life, no such accusation ever came forward until three weeks before a Presidential election (and uncorroborated) - unlike for Bill Clinton, and, by the way, for Bill Cosby where all along through decades there had been some accusations of indecent conduct.
The assertion that nothing has shown up over the past 40 years until the current round being decried as politically motivated is simply incorrect as any reasonably competent research would show. But even if that were not the case, the fact remains that most if not all the current allegations were told to others at the time and thus not made up now simply to harm Trump's candidacy for president. Furthermore, the only proven allegations against Bill Clinton were with consenting partners, a big difference from what Trump admits to on tape. There is no "locker room" defense as Trump was no where near a locker room and in fact was in a business setting. Additionally, this so-called normal locker room banter is unheard of in locker rooms. Not a single person has come forward to authenticate such locker room banter admitting sexual assault, though several prominent athletes have come forward to challenge it. There is no defense for Trump or those who support him on this count. Take care. Vern
Dill Carver wrote:I think the contest should be physical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWz9VN40nCA
Take care. Vern
corra wrote:If the opposite is happening in the other world, how would the same situations keep arising? I get a job at a Daycare, so opposite me doesn't get a job at a Daycare. Daycare me saves a a pilot's life at the grocery (killer peas), so non-Daycare me doesn't save a life? Or takes a life? Would the life taken be related to the life saved in the other world? If not, how can all these opposite reactions possibly stay related? The pilot I save in Daycare world goes out and crashes an airliner into the ocean, but this never happens in non-Daycare world because I wasn't there to save the pilot's life, yet the opposite is supposed to happen to everyone on the plane? And so on? Cool idea, but it seems like it might start to get exponentially confusing... 
You are of course correct in this assessment. But on a limited version, it's been sort of done in the Bizarro world of Superman comics. Haven't read those in quite a long time. Take care. Vern
"Imagine All the People" dead. Trees become the dominant sentient species and mistletoe evolves lips. Take care. Vern
The common sense rule is listen to how it sounds, especially if it's in conversation. What sounds right is generally correct and if not it should be. "He sneaked out the door" sounds like someone sitting on a corncob to my mountain born ear. Take care. Vern
I think I spotted the squirrel's mistake; forgot to carry the one.
Trump? So much for God's perfection.
Take care. Vern
Edited to add Trump
Janet Taylor-Perry wrote:VV, who is your biography about?
If you click her name from the post, it will take you to her profile which has an essay discussing her biography. Take care. Vern
Squealing unground hog meat
Dill Carver wrote:vern wrote:LOL! Take care. Vern
Just joshing with you Sir!
Your suggestion is actually quite interesting. Hard to score though; it would be the judges that I'd feel sorry for.
Oh, I had no doubt of that; love your sense of humor and loved that image which was hilarious. I really did laugh out loud even later thinking about it while watching TV. As for the judges, if we can manage the writing, the judges should be able to buck up to the task at hand. Take care. Vern
Edited for clarification.
Dill Carver wrote:vern wrote:Since there seems to be quite a bit of discussion on site about genre and the attention each gets or doesn't get or even what is part and parcel to a particular genre, then perhaps a contest where one must pick three (3) genre from a list provided by Sol for the contest and incorporate elements of each within the story. Many, if not most, stories already contain elements of more than one genre, so such a contest might prove helpful to those who are reluctant to read or write a specific genre. You might even add the caveat (or not) that the author must denote (as a footnote) where/how in the story each genre is represented with the judge(s) to determine the effectiveness of each genre in the story along with the overall quality of the story. Too complicated? Well, it is a contest to hopefully decode the secret of writing a good story. Take care. Vern
Nice one Vern. Although I think there may already be an image that encompasses this suggestion in its entirety.
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LOL! Take care. Vern
Since there seems to be quite a bit of discussion on site about genre and the attention each gets or doesn't get or even what is part and parcel to a particular genre, then perhaps a contest where one must pick three (3) genre from a list provided by Sol for the contest and incorporate elements of each within the story. Many, if not most, stories already contain elements of more than one genre, so such a contest might prove helpful to those who are reluctant to read or write a specific genre. You might even add the caveat (or not) that the author must denote (as a footnote) where/how in the story each genre is represented with the judge(s) to determine the effectiveness of each genre in the story along with the overall quality of the story. Too complicated? Well, it is a contest to hopefully decode the secret of writing a good story. Take care. Vern
Practically everyone is a bit nervous when entering a new arena, so let those butterflies create a world changing effect with the fluttering of your words. Welcome to the site and hopefully a jaw dropping surprise awaits. Take care. Vern
Silver (The Lone Ranger's horse for those who don't know) shit.
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