loyal cantaloupe
701 2017-01-09 23:45:54
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
702 2017-01-09 22:09:33
Re: New Writing Contest (107 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Aaaaaaand, Sol's thread is effectively hijacked.
~Tom
Has there ever been a thread with a large number of responses (say at least two pages) that hasn't been "hijacked" or deviated from the subject of the initial post? Even the simplest of premises such as the first word which comes to mind do not stay on course as naturally more than one word soon appears in responses. I wouldn't consider that being "hijacked". Like most natural conversations and soap operas, offshoots occur within threads with regularity much like objects falling under the influence of gravity when dropped. Take care. Vern
703 2017-01-09 16:24:33
Re: New Writing Contest (107 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Our society id highly polarizef now along the Rousseaen/Tragic split. The middle very badly frayed.
Our society is highly polarized along a Republican-Democrat line and whether one or both sides are good, bad, noble savages, or whatever, I think it quite likely that if one thousand of each selected at random were asked in an isolated room by a neutral synthesized voice to determine individually a reasonable copyright time frame, they could be "averaged" to derive a "common sense" number acceptable to both sides as they would have no idea of any party line response. Otherwise we are all on the "tragic" side of society. No, I don't think that will ever happen; the thought exercise merely indicates that a "common sense" solution is entirely possible. And we've probably needlessly run the subject into the ground. Take care. Vern
704 2017-01-09 15:26:57
Re: New Writing Contest (107 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Common sense does depend on your frame. If you believe in Rousseau's view of human nature, your commonsense solution to a human problem may be the exact opposite of what it would be if you took the tragic view of human nature.
Averaging 'go north' and 'go south' gets you exactly nowhere.
You might be correct if we were taking Rousseau's or any individual's philosophical view per se, but a broad spectrum of views derived from the general public is just the opposite of taking one person's view of human nature. To average directions is not even relevant to averaging a concept of time for the situation being considered; it is not even as close to comparing apples to oranges which is to say utilizing a bit of "common sense" should make the difference apparent. In the case of determining a time frame for copyright, everyone would not agree on a specific number of years, but you would come up with a number likely to be considered reasonable by the majority of people using their own common sense. And using common sense wouldn't provide a number completely off the scale of reason. Take care. Vern
705 2017-01-09 14:13:49
Re: New Writing Contest (107 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Common sense is a subject on which even jurists diagree. What is common sense to Clarence Thomas may be hidebound idiocy to Ruth B. Ginsburg, and vice-the-versa.
Common sense being that innate wisdom unhindered by specialized training and/or knowledge would be greatly undermined in the examples presented not to mention the uncommon influence of incentives provided to Congress in their ivory towers by the likes of Disney. However, a time frame on the subject at hand might be reasonably related to common sense by "averaging" the input of a broad cross-section of the public at large. Take care. Vern
706 2017-01-09 05:41:41
Re: New Writing Contest (107 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Justices are not mullahs knowing from God what the right duration is.
They are not required or expected to have divine insight into a perfect time frame; however, they are expected to have a little common sense which would say that to afford protection for a work long after the author and perhaps any offspring have died is a bit gracious with the original intent of the law to reward creativity while not unduly depriving the public access forever.
707 2017-01-09 05:22:02
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
ins out diary?
No, "outs in" as opposed to "incen (ins in)" diary: to out someone in a diary such as Mommy Dearest.
708 2017-01-09 04:33:20
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
outs in diary
709 2017-01-08 23:14:11
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Firestarter
710 2017-01-08 23:10:31
Re: New Writing Contest (107 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
njc wrote:But see Mickey Mouse Copyright.
Do you mean the distinction between corporate trademarking of an image which is perpetual and an individual's copyright of art that can have a long life but not perpetual after death because the assumption is that a corporation is chartered into perpetuity and a human being cannot be so? Why is a drug patent seven years and Disney's Micky Mouse copyright was 96 years? A patent on a product is seen as most productive within a short time span, but the economic benefit from art may not accrue even within the lifetime of the artist -- in traditional sensibility, that is, and not in the phenomenon of Pop music which is rather more like a patented packaged manufactured product.
Disney has lobbied for and gotten several extensions for the Mickey Mouse copyright, but it will still run out unless extended through further palm greasing by Disney. But even without an extension of the copyright, Mickey Mouse has been trademarked up to his eyeballs and characteristic ears and thus the very mention of Mickey Mouse is now considered by many to be synonymous with corporate Disney. Therefore, Mickey Mouse may likely never enter the public domain as long as the trademark is renewed. Should Disney go bust and/or forget to renew the numerous trademarks, then the immortal Mickey will enter the public domain. Take care. Vern
711 2017-01-08 20:12:39
Re: New Writing Contest (107 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
To meet this legal bar, the specifics of the contest would have to require a parody/satirical nature.
Although I don't particularly care for the fanfic idea, it seems that almost any depiction of two opposing fictional characters who would normally never meet could/would be considered parody/satirical in nature. However, the obvious solution to the gray area being considered for the contest (for any who would want to someday publish outside tnbw) is to simply not use it.Take care. Vern
712 2017-01-08 16:13:32
Re: New Writing Contest (107 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
SolN wrote:How about a closed room murder that must also combine two fanfics that would never go together? I'm liking the idea.
Fanfic is theft of intellectual property. Salinger, et al. vs. John Doe, et al. U.S. District Court, NY. (2010)
Another case addressing Alice Randall's "The Wind Done Gone" had an opposite ruling. The link provided below highlights the difference between the cases for anyone interested. Take care. Vern
713 2017-01-08 15:50:45
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Pear-de-farce
714 2017-01-06 13:11:56
Re: New Writing Contest (107 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I have a great idea!
Fanfiction!
Take an established character and write a 1000 words about it.
Luke Skywalker
Harry Potter
Robert Langdon
Wonder Woman
Sheldon CooperCharacter must be a work of fiction (no, not even Donald Trump) and must be well-known.
To add another twist; combine two fanfics that would never go together. What would Conan the Barbarian meets Hermione Granger or Pinhead from the Hellraiser movies be like?
I'm confused; you say no to Trump and then mention possibly using -- oops, never mind, you used Pinhead and I automatically thought Dickhead which of course would be a Trump calling card. My bad. Take care. Vern
715 2017-01-04 02:59:00
Re: New Writing Contest (107 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Say, we had a "mystery" contest and nobody knew the genre -- unless they read this thread. Take care. Vern
716 2017-01-02 20:58:43
Re: Sonny (15 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
RIP, Sonny. It's a shame many will never receive a review from one of the best.
717 2016-12-29 15:10:52
Re: P&E annual Reader's Poll (60 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
The mystery continues.
718 2016-12-29 05:28:08
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
As for me and grandpa, we know
719 2016-12-28 16:00:02
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Not before grandma got run over
720 2016-12-28 05:08:42
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Airplane pier
721 2016-12-23 04:17:20
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
stickrhoid
722 2016-12-22 12:58:01
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Jump the broom -- much more dangerous
723 2016-12-19 14:01:42
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
hilaurus
means big laugh at big jokes
724 2016-12-18 16:28:05
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Dinosaur
725 2016-12-13 23:48:19
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
misdirect
