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People write for different reasons? Maybe. But it boils down to one thing; they have a passion or at least a strong desire to write for whatever reason. Now, it may be true that passion or desire comes about for different reasons, but the "want" is the only thing which drives one to write. One simply doesn't write if they don't have that passion from where ever it comes. Otherwise, they will not put words to paper unless "forced" to do so by some outside agent such as a teacher or other authority figure or perhaps an attempt to keep from starving so to speak.

Yes, lots of good stories in the Bible and they pretty much all were written because of the passion to write those stories. They most certainly weren't written by God, either personally or dictated. They were written by men who had a passion to preserve their accounts of what they believed. They
wanted others to accept their version of the story and often the different authors presented different versions of basically the same story because their passion had different details which they wanted to espouse.

So, I would say, yes, we may write for different reasons in a sense, but those different reasons are because of different passions or degrees of desire. Just an opinion of course. Take care. Vern

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Yumpyyum wrote:

I haven't figured out how to reply seperatly but you guys are awesome. Thank you so so much. To Alan,  the main reason i joined was to figure out with the help of you guys of course what genre I could fit in. Majorly I like to write inspirational/motivational articles. I also like writing stories and making sure there's a moral lesson behind each story. I like writing articles about what's not working in my democratic system. I like writing about the moral decadence and injustice witnessed on a daily basis. I also like to banter with words lol. Basically it's like a jack of all trade kind of thing but illd really love for it to be defined

Hi, Yum, you can answer individual posts by clicking on the "quote" option in lower right of the box. You can edit out parts if you wish by deleting unwanted material or copy and paste just what you wish to reply to. You can also use BBCode to respond to a particular author's post by clickiong the BBCode option at the top right of the post box and follow those directions. It takes a while to get to know all the ins and outs of the system and some you may never use and figure out your own way to navigate. Take care. Vern

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I'm sorry, but there is a poltergeist ensconced within the parameters of the digital-verse where all reviews reside and it -- the poltergeist -- is high on the essence of virtual ink fumes forming a magnetic cloud over its heretofore spirited domain. Here's hoping a good rain will wash it away. Take care. Vern

SolN wrote:

We're in the planning phase and hope to launch in two weeks or so. You can enter any book you want regardless of whether it has been entered before.

I would assume, as before, it must be published/republished after a certain date to be eligible. Take care. Vern

Lynne Clark wrote:
Stephen A. Carter wrote:

I can't figure out how to combine books already published, Vern, but I'm digging into it. I may try to see if admin can help if I can't figure it out.

You can't. You will have to start again, marking them as a book and then adding in the chapters. I too discovered this the hard way when I arrived. Waste of points but better now than later and it makes it much easier as you go along.

No, you don't have to start again. You're not starting from scratch. You already have more than one book so choose the one with the most material and then place the chapters from any other book (copy and paste) you wish to be there and arrange the chapters in whatever order you wish. You will have to use points for adding those chapters, but that's a small price to pay for the education. It might be fun, but you don't have to learn everything by trial and error. Most answers are in the forums somewhere for the asking. Take care. Vern

Why don't you just put all the chapters in one book? You can renumber the chapters however you wish. I haven't reviewed any of the chapters, but have read some and would say you are making it a bit difficult for your readers to make them bounce between "books" for the same story. And of course you would also have to bounce between them to keep the reviews straight. Just my opinion. Take care. Vern

Titles can't be copyrighted. Take care. Vern

Edited for PS: Trademark is a different animal.

You knew that young man over there; you practically knew him to death. And my sisters, you knew them, but you layeth now in thy bed and tell me you don't even know my name after I pulled you from the grave. Please, Father, riseth to the occasion one more time and leaveth me not in this world a virgin.

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Malcolm Reynolds wrote:
vern wrote:

A bit of a contrarian, I suppose, but in my opinion, the best book on writing you can read is the book you write on whatever subject you are passionate about -- novel or non-fiction doesn't matter. If you write the book you want to write in your words, then take sage advice from those you trust to tweak it as need may be, then you have just graduated from the best creative writing course there in the known universe. Might be a best seller or might be less than well received by the public at large; it is still yours and the personal goal will be met regardless of the monetary finish line. Just the way I see it. Take care. Vern

aka “recipe for inertia”

That would be correct if you are optimistic enough to continue on that straight line to your destination and not let outside forces knock you off course. Of course everyone may not feel that way. That's what makes the world go round. Makes me wonder who taught those first great writers; I mean the ones who happened to make it before all those how to writing books? Yep, I think inertia would fit in there somewhere within that first draft. Take care. Vern

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A bit of a contrarian, I suppose, but in my opinion, the best book on writing you can read is the book you write on whatever subject you are passionate about -- novel or non-fiction doesn't matter. If you write the book you want to write in your words, then take sage advice from those you trust to tweak it as need may be, then you have just graduated from the best creative writing course there in the known universe. Might be a best seller or might be less than well received by the public at large; it is still yours and the personal goal will be met regardless of the monetary finish line. Just the way I see it. Take care. Vern

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Garima Singh wrote:

Hello all,
I am a new member of this awesome community.
Started writing some bits couple of months ago. A PhD scholar though. I write because I love the freedom I get from it. No pressure, no deadlines, no judgement, just freedom. Absolutely love it.
Read some articles and reviews here, must say, it is really satisfying and motivating. I wish to stay here and learn some skills.
Thanks a lot.
Have a great day!
Garima

Hi, GS, welcome to the site. Learning is a two-way street; you'll probably teach us a lot along the way. Take care. Vern

Triple congrats. Hope there is a big pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Take care. Vern

Nothing out of line; if you don't ask, you don't know if it would work or not -- sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. This is a fickle bunch and much depends on the tone of the question, in which case you pass muster in that you're not playing the "poor-little-me" card. I actually read your story yesterday, but didn't have time for a review. Most likely I'll get around to it this weekend, that being Sunday and Monday for me. I will say the sex is certainly not gratuitous, not even close. Good luck. Take care. Vern

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Hi, Claire, welcome to the site, aka @$^$^#$ at times, lol. If you post to the Premium Group, you'll probably get a lot more input through reviews. Good luck. Take care. Vern

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Okay, I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm sure you know the prime directive is review, review, review -- I don't know if you've made that first effort yet but assume that you have since you've been here long enough to understand that. So, now comes the sawing off of the limb. I looked at the first several para of each chapter posted and must admit I couldn't get into the story.

Your title indicates a probable sci-fi (never looked at the genre) about time travel or such, but pretty much all I read is description upon description of how the characters look and/or are dressed. No action or indication of such in that or the casual dialogue thrown into the mix. Speaking only for myself, I had no reason to continue reading. That may be true for others or it just might be me. My best advice would be to find a hook early on which would hold the attention of your projected audience. I'm not trying to be rude or a hard ass, just offering my opinion on your question. That would be my style -- not for everyone -- if I had actually reviewed the work. Good luck. Take care. Vern

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Best way to deal with those people is just start talking to yourself as soon as they're in earshot and don't let up. Take care. Vern

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Malcom Reynolds wrote:
vern wrote:
Malcom Reynolds wrote:

“Agree!” the parakeet roared.

Until it was hoarse and could roar no more. Take care. Vern

“Ooh! Ooh!” the orangutan tweeted.

Oops, not allowed to talk Trump in these forums, lol. Take care. Vern

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Malcom Reynolds wrote:
vern wrote:

So, the discussion is now where it belongs imo; whether "roar" is appropriate or not within the sentence. This is what imo the reviewer and/or author should be asking as opposed to an obscure (for most folks) rule which in essence would add little if anything to the description in this specific case though that assertion may not be true for all sentences with similar structure.

We can have different opinions of what exactly defines a "roar" and if a particular definition is what the author is trying to present to the reader. It is all good and from this perspective, there is no right or wrong, merely what is in the eye of the beholder. The author would/should make that final calculation after considering the various angles from reviewers. Quite interesting me thinks. Take care. Vern

“Agree!” the parakeet roared.

Until it was hoarse and could roar no more. Take care. Vern

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So, the discussion is now where it belongs imo; whether "roar" is appropriate or not within the sentence. This is what imo the reviewer and/or author should be asking as opposed to an obscure (for most folks) rule which in essence would add little if anything to the description in this specific case though that assertion may not be true for all sentences with similar structure.

We can have different opinions of what exactly defines a "roar" and if a particular definition is what the author is trying to present to the reader. It is all good and from this perspective, there is no right or wrong, merely what is in the eye of the beholder. The author would/should make that final calculation after considering the various angles from reviewers. Quite interesting me thinks. Take care. Vern

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jack the knife wrote:
vern wrote:
Lynne Clark wrote:

*wanders onto Google to look up antecedents...*

Yes, I understand the rules are there for a reason, that being to make things clear. My point is that in this instance, it is obviously clear without using google to look up obscure rules the preponderance of readers and writers have no idea exist. That is going beyond what I dare say any publisher/editor would be concerned within the context of a story. But if someone is looking for that technical detail in a review then they are well beyond anything I could offer or would seek on this site.

I do wish this had come up before the clarification that cheetahs don't roar because that is precisely what I was going for. When we overlook a factual error, contradictions, plot holes, transitions, etc. in our search for technical fault, that is a case of sticking to rules to the detriment of creative writing imho. Take care. Vern

The structure of that sentence is what I thought you were going for when you started the discussion, since it was flawed. (The sentence structure, not the discussion. That's one example of what I mean. smile ) I agree that an isolated sentence like the one you proposed is not likely to raise the concern of editors - though they would likely correct it - or cause readers to shake their heads in confusion. But if I had the time on this Sunday of March Madness and Tiger in the hunt at Bay Hill, I would give you more examples to show why sticking to proper construction is important for clarity.

I also am wandering in from watchin Tiger in the hunt -- but not so much any more after that last bogey --  and I agree the sentence structure would be a problem if the meaning were not clear, but when it is absolutely clear without defying logic, then the precise sentence structure becomes a non-issue, countless examples where it is not clear notwithstanding, imho. Take care. Vern

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Lynne Clark wrote:
jack the knife wrote:
vern wrote:

As you state, "its" obviously refers to the cheetah, so, I suppose if anyone would attribute "its" to a roar having its picture taken, then we can throw all logic and the rules governing such out the window. I did consider the "a vs the" situation, but ultimately decided it had no consequence in the grand scheme of things. Nothing wrong per se with rearranging other than "startling me" is a bit less dramatic imo. Take care. Vern

The rules of sentence structure regarding antecedents are there for a reason: to avoid ambiguity in every instance, not just berry-picking examples. In the given sentence, it's fairly obvious the cheetah is the antecedent, but structurally, it isn't. Excusing this because the meaning should be clear here ignores countless other instances where the meaning is not clear and gives a pass to sloppy sentence construction. Next subject: dangling participles. smile

*wanders onto Google to look up antecedents...*

Yes, I understand the rules are there for a reason, that being to make things clear. My point is that in this instance, it is obviously clear without using google to look up obscure rules the preponderance of readers and writers have no idea exist. That is going beyond what I dare say any publisher/editor would be concerned within the context of a story. But if someone is looking for that technical detail in a review then they are well beyond anything I could offer or would seek on this site.

I do wish this had come up before the clarification that cheetahs don't roar because that is precisely what I was going for. When we overlook a factual error, contradictions, plot holes, transitions, etc. in our search for technical fault, that is a case of sticking to rules to the detriment of creative writing imho. Take care. Vern

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jack the knife wrote:

Ignoring whether a cheetah does or does not roar, the given sentence is problematic in its construction. "Its" refers to the cheetah, obviously, but the subject of the opening clause is "roar," so "its" could be referring to the antecedent "roar," which of course is nonsensical. Replacing "a cheetah" with "the cheetah" helps a little but doesn't resolve the issue. The solution I'd propose in my in-line: The cheetah roared, startling me as I snapped its picture. This makes "cheetah" the unambiguous antecedent of "its."

As you state, "its" obviously refers to the cheetah, so, I suppose if anyone would attribute "its" to a roar having its picture taken, then we can throw all logic and the rules governing such out the window. I did consider the "a vs the" situation, but ultimately decided it had no consequence in the grand scheme of things. Nothing wrong per se with rearranging other than "startling me" is a bit less dramatic imo. Take care. Vern

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Kdot wrote:

Cheetahs make a weird snarl sound. If I read "roar of a cheetah", it's exactly this sound I would picture. Same with an elephant... "roar of an elephant" would give me images of an elephant making a loud elephant noise (eg not a lion noise). Third example: Katy Perry saying "hear me roar"... well humans aren't good at that activity but I can still visualize it.

I suppose I'm asking if the quote in OP was presented in a symbolic nature or factual?

The sentence was/is presented as an example where the author may not in fact know he/she has made an error. And many times, we as reviewers simply read over and accept it without comment because we are also unsure.

To quote:
***Cheetahs purr whereas big cats such as leopards,jaguars,lions, and tigers do not have the purring capability. Only these true large cats listed above can roar. Cheetahs do not roar because they do not have the capability of "true" large cats.***

Thanks for the input. Take care. Vern

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Lynne Clark wrote:

Unless, of course, it was because cheetahs don't usually roar that the sound startled the photographer? That would be valid, I think.

Maybe. Nope, they're not just lazy,  they can't roar, so "don't usually" wouldn't be valid in this case. Unless of course the photographer was on a mad scientist's island where all sorts of strange things might happen. Now, we're getting somewhere. The paperback should be out soon. Take care. Vern

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kraptonite wrote:

Indeed.

Or (for the sake of a capital C), if the Cheetah were a powerboat and the photographer at the marina?  smile

(Joking!)

LOL, I should've used that as backup. Take care. Vern