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If we're going to be libertarian here, sure, anyone can form any group and hope to attract members to that group. Sol wants to create a new group - fine. Members can join it. But what the practical benefit that would be escapes me. I created the Thriller, Mystery, Suspense group, but I didn't intend for members who joined it to post only in that group. It was meant only for a place for like-minded readers/writers to go for discussions or whatever. As it turned out, the only thing I've seen coming out of these myriad groups I'm associated with is the occasional quiz. Perhaps I should be more active administering my group (and if anyone wants to take it over, let me know), but my focus has been posting and reviewing in the Premium group, where the action was and (so far) is. I'm not privy to all the other groups' activities, but I'm not aware of any that have postings only to that group. That would kind of defeat the purpose of this site, IMO. Sol, though, seems to want postings for like-minded writers confined to this new group and for like-minded reviewers to seek those postings out. I guess we could change the mindset of the site and have all the subgroups serve as a minor league, as it were, where genre postings would first go to the applicable group before advancing, if warranted, to the majors (Premium). I don't know, this edict from on high has a "who cares" quality to it unless Sol is pursuing a radical change in the TNBW model, and this is the first step.

vern wrote:

I think the separation is because some people, certainly not all, but enough, may not be prepared for the sometimes overly blunt reviews which some (again certainly not all or even a large percentage) provide. There are those who are more sensitive to criticism and there are those who are less tactful in reviewing. It only makes sense that the two have the option for a different environment. No one is required to function in one or the other; there is flexibility for using either or, or both. With the added option, what might be considered "rude' in one forum might be run of the mill in the other. Different skins for different folks or even the same folks at different levels of development. That's the way I see it and applaud the new option. Take care. Vern

I believe that it also provides a safe environment for reviewers. There are some members who are authoritative and forthright within the reviews they dispense (fair enough), but who for some reason will not accept the self-same degree of attention towards their own writing, however legitimate and technically substantiated that critique might be. 

Strange but true. I have consciously experimented in the past. I have reciprocated reviews in-kind. Measured the review to legitimately suggest the same degree of alteration and change within their own writing that they suggest within the work they reviewed; and yet the author(s) have felt insulted. Apparently within some people there is no assumption or acceptance that you should ever take back what you dish out or reap what you sow.     
Anyway, within the Shred it should be safe and sensible. Only those authors level-headed enough to happily receive the same style and degree of critique they dispense will utilise the group. 

My main optimism for the venture is that extended discussion upon word craft and writing analysis might break out within the Shred group forum.
Cheers!

But I hope group members are not restricted to reviewing only each other. They can still review the works of people outside the Shred group, won't they?

I've read all the posts on this subject so far and, sorry, Sol, but I don't see the need for this shred group. If an author can't take the heat of unfavorable critiques, they can leave. If reviewers are mean-spirited and vitriolic, they can be removed from the site. And we already have a Fight Club group for members who like to duke it out. As far as I know, the Premium Group does not require "niceties" and "encouragement" from reviewers, though most reviewers will try to find something positive in their critiques. They chose to review it after all when they could have passed on it. Finally, I wouldn't want the Premium Group to get the reputation of the place where reviews aren't "honest."

Please tell me you don't want it in pink!

Seriously, there is a market in pink firearms and accessories.  I'm guessing the only reason there's no market for lace is that it would get caught when the weapon is drawn. 

I'll agree with you on getting rid of the business tax.  But try and convince Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi to go along with it.

vern wrote:

Seamus wrote:

And coming soon to a forum near you [drum roll]
The The Ego Stroke Group Group
This group is for people who want to give and receive kind words aimed at encouragement even if there’s no hope.  Only post here if you are ready for banal platitudes and gold stars for participating. (Also great for credit hoarders.  50 words of empty, benign rhetoric = piles o’ points!)

LOL. This from one who has posted nothing and has reviewed zilch. It appears the only goal for this character is to try to stir a hornet's nest in the forums. It is quite laughable really. BTW, Ms, this is my thread so it won't be deleted like the one where you attacked forum authors for no reason unless deleted by Sol. Should you insist upon spewing more nonsense, it will remain for the amusement of all until that day comes if ever. As stated previously, I will be laughing at you, not with you. Take care. Vern

*Bows* God Vern has spoken.  I yield your post back to you.  I cry easily when other people laugh at me.  And sorry for calling you a curmudgeon.  Anybody can see that’s not true. How could I have been so insensitive.  *sticks tail between legs and runs away from Vern*

This morning, feeling frobly-mobly, I was overwhelmed with dysania, but I knew I must get moving.  After my shower, I was overcome with shivviness, thanks to a gift to myself.  Though I want to write more on my new novel, I most likely will perendinate because I’m caught up with news of our kakistocracy and can’t unglue my eyes from the TV this morning.  So I presume I will be grufeling today since we have snow on the ground and I am reluctant to go outside.  I feel philogrobilized, but that can’t be, so I will watch the news and sympathize with the grumbletonians as they jeer the snollygosters and ultracrepidarians.  I hope my phone doesn’t ring because I am not into twattling today.

(OMG!  My spell-check is working overtime!)

Not sure what to say. I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion.