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Also, when you choose the “story type” - try choosing “book” - it’ll make managing your work easier; it’ll help your readers too.

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ray ashton wrote:

Figured it out. Apparently having an equal amount of points as are required for posting will result in a publication without points awarded.

Doesn’t work that way, Ray.  It won’t let you post to a points group if you don’t have enough.  Period.  If you do have enough (even exactly the right amount), it pops up and asks you if you want to deduct.  You choose to post on not.  Period.  It also doesn’t “swallow” your points in that situation.

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Science Fiction, Steampunk, and Space Opera
HORROR AND THE MACABRE
Historical Fiction
...don’t pay points.

Try posting in Groups that pay points.

That little note that says ...
“Points: No
This content was not posted in a group that uses points and does not pay points to be reviewed!”

...is your clue.

https://www.thenextbigwriter.com/member … dit-system

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Okay, good to see that one’s successfully solved.  Now, to stay obliquely on topic—I was reading an article recently in the New England Journal of Medicine about this newly identified neurological disorder called CDP (Chronic Debilitating Pedantry).  They’re treating it with electro-shock therapy and an experimental cocktail concocted from Absolut, clomipramine, and ground-up red Skittles.  It’s shown promise so far, and is going into the final phase of clinical trials.  They are looking for volunteers.  Know anyone overly punctilious who’d be interested in being a guinea pig?

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TB

vern wrote:

Well, Vern's been on vacation all week but so glad I was missed. Not sure what me "detailing" the thread has to do with anything, but since my advice has been so eagerly sought out, I'll offer it. In the future, if you know the problem is with programming a character which doesn't want to be programmed, it would be a simple fix to substitute something which does work -- in this case "and" for "&" -- until you can get Sol's obviously hard to get attention. You're welcome. Please hold applause. Take care. Vern

I love you, man ...

Dirk B. wrote:

This is usually the point at which Vern also enters the thread. Feel free to completely detail this thread at this point. I got what I needed.

Amen, Dirk.  You said it.  Vern?  Heyyy ... Vern?  Where you been, Ol’ Buddy?  Your Luddite acolytes need you to dumb down the highfalutin tech-talk and give us some of that homespun, no-bs monosyllabic banter, so the wet blankets don’t dampen all the fun.  Chrissakes ...
Yours truly,
Earnest
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_P._Worrell#/media/File:Ernest_P._Worrell.jpg

ray ashton wrote:

&

Alleging someone's drunk when he has a problem posting is not very helpful, but, then again, it's par for the course.

One cannot “allege” with a question.

allege
—verb
to declare with positiveness; affirm; assert: to allege a fact.

jest
—noun
a joke or witty remark; witticism.
a bantering remark; a piece of good-natured ridicule

Are you drunk?

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Over 90%  of novels started on this website don’t get finished—either because the member doesn’t hang around or the writer peters out.  Therefore, unless you are critiquing someone who has a track record of carrying through on their manuscripts (which is probably about a dozen or less people), you can almost guarantee the novel won’t be finished anyway.  With that in mind, expecting to review or be reviewed from beginning to end is not practical most of the time.  We should all be thankful for anyone who reviews our work and offers their help, regardless if it’s a one-time drop in or a dedicated beta reader.

vern wrote:

Okay, this entire thread has been based on a false premise, that being unable to access the Premium "forum" when it turns out it is actually about not being able to post writing without having enough credits which is a whole nuther ballgame with a slow pitch to knock out of the park. Nuff said. Take care. Vern

Amen.

On the FWIW front: I noticed our new member was having issues before all this nonsense began.  I left him a Quickee with a link to instructions on how the points system works to help him out ... yet, still
(https://www.thenextbigwriter.com/member … dit-system)

Reminds me of a quote that, while out of context, is nonetheless apropos:
“If you don't have the time to read, you don't have the time or the tools to write.”
Stephen King

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A period works fine, but if you like a colon, then put a colon and move on or you’ll never get finished.

Dirk B. wrote:

Here's the message he got:
You must be a writing member to post in this group. A list of advantages for upgrading are given and then an upgrade button. It doesn't allow the upgrade because it says I'm on a 7 day free trial.

“Posting” and “Access” are not the same thing ...

Of course.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-anJwpJm7gY8/ULJJctCr1GI/AAAAAAAADdk/wGKi4Jph2dQ/s1600/baby-falling-asleep.gif

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njc wrote:

But the trimmings are what freight the sentence, hiding its global structure.  They are what would make us pause in speaking as we compose them, and what we hear and interpret as structural clues when we parse the sentence to decode its structure.

And I might put the comma in anyway.  Say it aloud; do you not pause before 'watching'?  Why do you pause?  Because of the structural break in the grammar flow.

Yeah, I know, Temple.  We never agree.  I don't think we'd even agree that we disagree.

Actually, I didn’t draw a conclusion (nor opine).  I put Dirk’s question in a different light and posed my own question to give him another way to think about it.  I don’t really have an opinion.  It’s Dirk’s sentence, and if he likes a pause there, he should put it there.  He’s the conductor.

“Punctuation tells the reader how to hear your writing. That’s what it’s for.”
Ursula K. Le Guin

“Freight the sentence”? “Global structure”? “Structural break in the grammar flow”? “Decode its structure”? Lordy, I don’t even know what all that hooey means.  I just write and tell my readers how to read it with my punctuation.  Guess I best whip out my grammar primer and learn about that “global structure” stuff before I embarrass myself ...

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Think about it: 
Same sentence without the trimmings:
Connor sat watching the sun.

Would you really write “Connor sat, watching the sun.”?

Dirk B. wrote:

Does anyone knows of a good writing book that encompasses most (all?) of the writing elements highlight in this blog post? I'm currently reading the Write Great Fiction series, but it's just an excuse to charge $10 for each major story element.

I sent a reply to your other query, but since you mentioned the WGF series, I quite like it.  “Revision and Self-Editing” and “Dialogue” are very good.  If you subscribe to the RSS feed or email updates from Writer’s Digest, they frequently have books on sale for $4.99, and the WGF series is typically included.

These are some that have guided me:

The Art of Fiction - John Gardner
The Book on Writing - Paul LaRocque
The Way of the Writer - Charles Johnson
Stein on Writing - Sol Stein (probably my favorite)
How to Grow a Novel - Sol Stein
On Writing - Stephen King (not a fan of his writing, but this is a great read)
On Writing Well - William Zinsser (generally on non-fiction, but much is applicable to fiction)

Good article ...
http://theeditorsblog.net/2019/06/13/get-skilled/

It helps if you distinguish between between “direct” inner dialogue and “indirect” inner dialogue.  If you are writing in past tense, inner dialogue that remains in past tense is “indirect” and is typically not italicized.  Present tense internal dialogue is “direct” internal dialogue, and is typically italicized.  Doing this is simple, straightforward and clear—even more so if you treat it like dialogue and give it its own para.

Various other ways are used.  It just depends on whether you want to be clear to your reader or not.

In the end, whichever way you choose to do it, be consistent.

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Jesus ...

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John Hamler wrote:

For I'm not even speaking as a consumer of mindless entertainment, but rather as a thoughtful person provoked by thoughtfully-rendered entertainment. I believe that it's essential that we, as a community of storytellers, reckon the pop-culture relevance of this controversial pop-culture phenomenon and learn from it. Period.
John

I think I getcha.  Ima roll me a blunt, sit down with my leather-bound copy of Mr. William Cuthbert Faulkner’s “The Reivers,” and try to reckon how he penned that puppy without a dose of pop-culture anna iPad ...

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John Hamler wrote:

Good God, I need some help!

I’ll say.

I gave up television cold turkey in 1997.  I highly recommend total abstinence. If you do that, you can spend all those wasted hours doing something worthwhile ... like, maybe ... I dunno ... writing and reading?

Dirk B. wrote:

I'm trying to figure out what that would sound like and if it's even possible. It's come up in my writing.

You can do what you want to.  But since “cackling” is typically associated with “shrill” or “sharp” and/or the sound that hens make after laying an egg, the better question is: why the heck would you want to, as it sounds silly and incongruous ...