I agree being a little put off by Brave, unless of course the members here feel themselves under attack.
The majority of people in the West still consider themselves Christians, even if they don't actively practice their faith.
Dirk
I agree being a little put off by Brave, unless of course the members here feel themselves under attack.
The majority of people in the West still consider themselves Christians, even if they don't actively practice their faith.
Dirk
Can someone please explain what the difference is between the two Christian writing groups - this one and the new one created in the last day or two?
It is so hard to get traction/members/active posts/dialogues in even the more "mainstream" groups (e.g., sci-fi, fantasy, young adult, ...), that dividing the Christian camp in two seems to increase the hurdle for what is often seen as an alternative media, albeit a potentially powerful one.
With only ten groups that I can join, I prefer not to have to post all my questions in two whenever I have a question to ask or something to share, yet would love the widest possible exposure and opinions. This just made it twice as hard to do that. Some groups on the site are so obscure that writers have taken to posting their questions in Premium for maximum exposure, thereby defeating the purpose of groups entirely and making an unorganized mess out of the Premium forum.
Full disclosure: Although spiritual, I am not Christian, but my sci-fi book has an heretical Christian theme, among others. I would love insight into the Christian community's thoughts about the questions my main characters raise about the reality of God. One MC is a Fundamentalist Christian, and the other, an avowed atheist. Each MC follows a character arc that causes each to question their beliefs.
Hopefully, it's not too late to settle on one of these two groups so that we can all focus on a shared community of like-minded individuals. I'll cross-post this to the other group as well, but I don't see myself doing so on an ongoing basis. It's simply too much effort given too little free time.
Thanks.
Dirk
Can someone please explain what the difference is between the two Christian writing groups - the original and now this one?
It is so hard to get traction/members/active posts/dialogues in even the more "mainstream" groups (e.g., sci-fi, fantasy, young adult, ...), that dividing the Christian camp in two seems to increase the hurdle for what is often seen as an alternative media, albeit a potentially powerful one.
With only ten groups that I can join, I prefer not to have to post all my questions in two whenever I have a question to ask or something to share, yet would love the widest possible exposure and opinions. This just made it twice as hard to do that. Some groups on the site are so obscure that writers have taken to posting their questions in Premium for maximum exposure, thereby defeating the purpose of groups entirely and making an unorganized mess out of the Premium forum.
Full disclosure: Although spiritual, I am not Christian, but my sci-fi book has an heretical Christian theme, among others. I would love insight into the Christian community's thoughts about the questions my main characters raise about the reality of God. One MC is a Fundamentalist Christian, and the other, an avowed atheist. Each MC follows a character arc that causes each to question their beliefs.
Hopefully, it's not too late to settle on one of these two groups so that we can all focus on a shared community of like-minded individuals. I'll cross-post this to the other group as well, but I don't see myself doing so on an ongoing basis. It's simply too much effort given too little free time.
Thanks.
Dirk
Minor request. Can we have Reading List as one of the options on the READ menu on the home page. I know it's on the main menu on the right, but I frequently look for it under the READ menu. Not a big deal. Just a nice to have, especially for people still getting used to the site.
Thanks
Dirk
This may have already been reported, but my home page shows that I have two new inline review replies. When I click to view the actual reply I get a page not found error for both chapters because the author has since taken them down. My home page still says I have two new inline review replies, even after I try to view them. It's for Don Chamber's book, Frozen Tide. He removed chapters 16 and up.
Thanks.
Dirk
Jemma, are you a premium (paying) member? The reason I ask is because I'm not sure if the process is the same for free members. You can try it.
For premium members, go to your home page and click on the large Post Your Writing button at the top of the screen. That takes you to your portfolio view. If the chapter is the first in a new book, click on the big red Add New Content button and it will walk you through the steps to post new writing.
If the chapter is for a book you already have up on the site, you should see the book listed at the bottom of the portfolio view. Click on the Action Menu next to the particular book you want to add to, and select Add Chapter. That takes you to a screen to add your chapter. You can publish to any group that you're a member of (e.g., Premium). You'll need points to publish, which you can earn by reading and reviewing the chapters of other authors on the site.
If you're trying to *replace* an existing chapter with an updated version of the same chapter, follow the Add Chapter workflow. Select the chapter number you want to replace and increment the version number. You'll need points for this process as well. Once the new chapter is published, you can decide if you want to hide the previous version of that chapter, or leave it visible so reviewers can compare the old and new, if they want to. Don't delete the old chapter until you're done with the reviews, since any chapter you delete also deletes the reviews associated with it.
There is also a way to edit existing chapters and replace the content without points. For that, go to your portfolio view as described above, and click on the aforementioned Action Menu. Select Edit instead of Add Chapter, and it will allow you to edit the existing content. That won't cost additional points, but it also won't pay additional points to anyone who has already read the chapter you're editing. It will pay points to anyone who has not yet read the chapter.
I hope that helps.
Dirk
One of my book characters still uses paper in the year 4017. Same reasons. :-)
On the other hand, some call centers that deal with confidential information (e.g., SSN) don't allow pen/paper on the desks, so the information can't be easily stolen.
Dirk
Actually, dagnee, I think we're talking about the same bug. On the Send a Message tab, there is a scrollable list that cuts off too soon and you can't see all of your connections. When you click on the list to see the names, right above the first name, a text field appears that you can type into. If you type in the first few letters of the connection name, it automatically filters the list as you type. It's a workaround, but it should make it manageable.
Dirk
Globally-deployed, driverless, solar-powered transportation. Seems inevitable.
Genetically-engineered humans. Some cultures smother girls, so the principle is already in place.
Organ regrowth technology. Some progress.
Technology to find life elsewhere in our solar system. Kind of close on this one.
Technology to detect life's signature in other star systems. Getting there.
Global-scale planetary cooling technology. We're kind of in a hurry for that one.
Global-scale desalination technology.
Global-scale rapid topsoil formation. Also in a hurry.
Near-100% waste recycling. Empty out those landfills.
Non-addictive, easily-tolerated, severe-pain medication. How much longer do I have to wait for this?!
A cure for baldness. The Dune movie had a bald emperor in the year 10,191 A.D. Not a good sign.
McSoy burgers people would actually be willing to eat (Earth could support about 10B vegetarians, billions more than with an omnivore diet).
World peace or new ways to kill each other. Kind of an either-or on this one. My money's on the latter.
Asteroid detection and deflection. The rest of the items on this list don't matter if we screw this one up.
Apple Pay. Check that one off.
Greg, your book is currently posted to groups and connections, but the group(s) you published to don't seem to include Premium. Whatever the cause, I can't open your book. Most people publish to Premium in addition to appropriate genre groups (e.g., sci-fi, thrillers, etc.), which gives them the widest possible exposure on the site without explicitly exposing it to the Internet. If you add it to Premium and then read/recip with others, you'll probably get a lot of the feedback you're looking for (from big picture down to individual nits). If you haven't already published your work to a points group, it will cost you points to add it to Premium. Publishing on the site with points also means site readers will earn points for reading it.
You can also connect with Janet Taylor-Perry here on the site. She's an English teacher, self-published author, mother of five, and still finds free time to work as an editor. She's been invaluable to me.
Welcome back.
Dirk
Hi Christina - you're posting your novel the correct way. The first chapter of a novel usually gets more reviews then the rest of the chapters. And since you have your novel only available to connections and group members you are lowering the amount of people that will see your novel and therefore potential reviewers.
Be careful about posting your work to be visible on the Internet. It could lead someone to take and post your work elsewhere without your knowledge, perhaps just for mischief. Some publishers won't accept work that's already available on the net.
Dirk
It looks like everything is published correctly, and you have one regular review already on chapter two. I suggest you start a conversation thread in one or more appropriate group forums (e.g. the genre group for your work and/or Premium) introducing yourself, the novel, and asking for reviews. You can then either wait a few more days to see if anyone reads more, or begin reading other people's work so that they will, hopefully, reciprocate on an ongoing basis. You'll almost certainly need to begin reading other people's work to get them to read three of your chapters. It's very time consuming to review three chapters, espercially if there's no reciprocal relationship.
Dirk
What about it makes it a "tour"? Does the book's author visit multiple sites while the tour is active? In other words, what's the author's role during the days that the tour is ongoing?
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Dirk
SquarePeg, this is the first I've ever heard of virtual book tours, although it sounds great. Besides the advertising and blogger reviews, are there live Q&A chat sessions or some kind of forum like this one where we pop in and out? I followed your link and looked around, but I wasn't sure about that aspect.
Thanks.
Dirk
But sweetheart and great poet lady, from your bio pic/painting I'm intrigued enough to wonder and feel fascination at the depth of being that is you, at the person (or persons) inside you that pickled that beautiful painting that represents you.
... And, any bit of information about a person may bring the mind meld and meshing moment of being and nothingness closer to the reading edge we all cautiously walk upon, as time is always fleeting and of the essence.
Max, this is a well-written bit of prose. So much so, I went to read your bio. It's a bit thin. :-)
Dirk
For anyone looking for a really good sci-fi story to add to your reading list, check out Jericho Down by Derek Atkins here on the site.
Highly recommended. Now if I can just get him to write faster. :-)
Dirk
I don't think you'll get many volunteers to read ten chapters for no points, before they review the 11th. They can already do that now: read each chapter, skip reviewing, and then finally start reviewing from chapter 11 on. If you want to try that, you could put a request in the Chapter Notes of what you really would like. Since I read more than I write (I need to reverse that), I have plenty of points whenever I want to publish. Other authors are far more prolific and are usually pressed for time, mostly reading chapters for points.
Although I no longer want reviews of my earliest chapters because they're so stale, I nevertheless reciprocate as my latest reviewers work through the book to catch up to where I want them to be. I picked up a great reviewer that way only recently. I look forward to her getting to the better chapters.
As for an offline e-reader version of your book, you could create the appropriate file(s) as you would if it was your finished work. I believe that starts with a Word document. You can then distribute the files to potential readers. Again, the chapter notes could be used to direct people accordingly. By the time you get to the final draft of your book, you would be an expert at the publishing steps.
Dirk
Hi Dunecan. I don't understand item 1. Are you saying that longer chapters aren't broken up into as many paragraphs as short ones? I must be interpreting that wrong, since the way you break up a story into paragraphs shouldn't really be related to chapter length.
Long chapters do make for a more difficult read. It requires setting aside larger chunks of time to do a single review, whereas short chapters can usually be reviewed in perhaps fifteen minutes. I like short breaks from other parts of my life, so I'm glad the site encourages short chapters. I would think that's true for eventual readers of the complete book as well.
For item 2, are you talking about putting the whole book up on the site for beta readers? I've seen other published authors here take down their content once the book is published, leaving only a few chapters behind to whet someone's appetite. If you don't want to review all of the chapters of someone's book starting with chapter 1, you could simply read 1-10 without leaving reviews, then start reviewing chapter 11.
For 2a, why would you want to deactivate chapters from receiving reviews. It gives you more feedback and encourages readers to review your stuff so they can get points to publish their own work.
My biggest problem with the second draft of my book is that I consider the first half of that draft to be of very poor quality, and I'm getting repetitive feedback about those chapters while I work on finishing the second draft. However, I keep it up, because I occasionally pick up a new long-term reviewer, which I couldn't get if I made them read ten chapters before they could start earning points.
Apologies if I'm misunderstanding your questions.
Dirk
Sol, at the upper right of the posting view you now show whether or not I've reviewed someone's chapter, and whether it was inline or regular. Immediately to the left of that, right below the stack of coins, is a little icon that looks like a message. When I hover over it, the tooltip says "your review bookmarks only for this chapter".
What is that for/does it mean?
Thanks.
Dirk
Stephen, I really like your story. You have an almost poetic writing style.
As others have suggested, earn some points and post it and you'll probably get a lot of useful feedback. There are some terrific reviewers on the site. If you don't get enough feedback after you post, feel free to join some of the genre-specific groups and drop a thread there introducing yourself and asking for reviewers. However, you'll probably pick up most of your reviewers by reading their stuff first, and they then reciprocate. In addition to the feedback they give, you can also learn a lot about writing from reading their stuff. Since writing time is precious, I whittled my list down to about eight great reviewers, and I learn as much by reading their work as I do from them reading mine.
Also, read the reviews left by others for stories that you yourself also review. It will make you a better reviewer and give you great writing tips about any weaknesses that may apply to your own stories. Reading the reviews left by others may also help you identify which authors on the site make a real effort and leave the best reviews. You can then read their stuff and, hopefully, pick up excellent reviewers that way too.
Welcome to the site.
Dirk
dagnee, if you click on the list of names, there is a text field at the top of the list where you can type in the names of the people you are trying to message. It automatically filters the list even as you begin to type the names.
Dirk
Norm d'Plume wrote:I would recommend using the Writing Tips & Advice group for such a discussion. If we keep putting all threads in Premium, we'll soon have all kinds of unrelated conversations here that were intended to belong in other groups. Otherwise, why have them?
Either way, let's take this out of the Wish list thread.
Dirk
So, Norm, what exactly is the main group for? Just to discuss the site? I still think that a discussion on writing would best be served if the widest possible audience was exposed to the thread. Also, there are people that might want to contribute but won't because it involves joining another group.
I'm wondering if the best way to handle this would be to have a "global" page of all topics/threads, grouped by group name. In other words, one place to go to see all threads in the system, grouped by Sci-fi, Fantasy, Premium, Writing Tips, etc. The content for the global page would be the topics/threads from those actual groups, simply presented as a global page. Posting a new topic on the global page under a certain group would automatically place the new topic in the appropriate group's forum, as well as show it on the global page. This would be a nice way to show all threads for the whole site in a single place where we could quickly scan/scroll through the lists of topics. in one place. Obviously, it would need search and filter capabilities to narrow the result set.
The global page would have to have a function that allows a user to join "open" groups immediately, without leaving the global page. Groups with restricted membership would probably need limits on what can done from the global view (read-only, read-write, or completely unavailable to others outside the group).
This approach could also eliminate the need for resurrecting the old forums, since all posts would remain attached to a group, but shown in a way that the old site's users are used to. It's just a different view of the same database.
Dirk
In the posting view for my own book, when I click on the chapter pick list, some of the chapters are highlighted with the word "regular". Not all of my chapters have this (even though most have regular reviews), and none have the word "inline" next to them. It's no big deal, since I primarily use the pick list to navigate other people's chapters, not so much my own.
As long as it's not corrupting anything...
Dirk
Any time you "publish" to Premium it will cost points. That can be if you publish a chapter for the first time, or if you decide to publish a different version of the same chapter for people to review again.
You can also "edit" existing chapters, without it costing points.
Click on the menu at the top right of the home page and select Portfolio. It will provide a list of your works on the site. On the right hand side, click the Action menu for the work you want to update. You can choose Add Chapter or Edit, depending on what you want to do. Either choice takes you to a 5-step workflow to add or change your work.
Editing work allows you to incorporate changes for future reviewers to see, and they'll get points for the reviews. Those who have already reviewed the work will not get points for reviewing it again, unless you publish it as a new chapter, using the Add Chapter workflow. Add Chapter will cost you points.
If you want to publish a chapter to replace an existing one, follow the Add Chapter workflow, but give the new chapter a different version number (e.g., chapter 2, v2 instead of chapter 2, v1). You can then decide whether you want to leave the old version of the chapter visible for readers to compare before/after, or simply hide the old one. Be careful about deleting old chapters, since I believe the reviews on the old chapter disappear with it.
Hope that helps.
Dirk
Sol, can you please let us know the current rules you're using on the right hand side of the home page to decide how long to leave new forum posts showing under the groups displayed there. I'm not sure if I'm seeing all of the new posts there or not before they disappear from that part of the screen.
On a related note, I think the default "Subscribe to this topic." checkbox should always default to checked for the initial creator of a post.
Thanks.
Dirk