When I read your post's subject line, I figured it was a critique of my work. :-)

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(10 replies, posted in Writing Tips & Site Help)

Thanks for responding, Kenny.

I'm leaning toward primarily using fleet and force, as discussed elsewhere in this thread. Those two terms are mostly self-explanatory and are applicable to both home fleets and the Praetorian Fleet. I'll probably have to create an equivalent to the Praetorian Fleet for the Realm, since both sides need more than just home fleets if they're going to patrol the galaxy and respond to emergencies.

Swarm is nice. Perhaps the Realm's equivalent to the roaming Praetorian Fleet is the Realm Swarm.

Edit:

I realized I also need battle groups. It's too simple to say 100 warships.  It's more realistic to say ten battle groups, where I define the size of a battle group the first time I use it (e.g., about ten ships). So, I have battle group, force/armada (generic terms for a subset of a fleet), fleet (usually capitalized, such as the Magellan Fleet), and Realm Swarm for the Realm's roaming fleet.

I currently have four warship types, which is probably two too many and will be trimmed: colossii and battle cruisers for the Imperium, and dreadnaughts and destroyers for the Realm.

Theoretically, I also have classes of ships related to which generation of ship it is (e.g., older Centurian-class battle cruisers). I don't plan to use classes more than a couple of times, as they'll only get in the way of the story. I only do it to add a little depth to my story.

Finally, I have ship names, limited to about seven ships, four of which are destroyed in chapter one (v3), and three that will duke it out in the climactic battle.

To Kenny's comment, this is just an exercise in consistent naming/capitalization rules for me to be able to keep it straight. I don't plan to throw all of this together in one scene. Only what's needed for the scene.

I'm awaiting a couple more author replies before I finalize this.

Thanks.
Dirk

3,878

(10 replies, posted in Writing Tips & Site Help)

Thanks for the info, Tom. This is useful. However, I don't want the reader to shrug and move on. I want them to at least understand which fleet or force their reading about. If I set it up properly, then when I introduce a new planet like Magellan, they'll immediately know that it has a home fleet called the Magellan Fleet, and a subset of that fleet will be called a Magellan force and/or Magellan attack group.

I'm just reading a Star Wars book about the apprenticeship of the Emperor to Darth Plagueis that I was hoping to learn from. However, it tries to name every building, bridge, and blade of grass - pretty much showing off that the author has drawn heavily from the Star Wars Encyclopedia. Every second character is from a different race, with its own physical attributes, and sometimes multiple names/titles. The result is a barely readable mess.

One thing it does do that I like is that it takes a page or two at the beginning of many chapters to do a little telling to set the scene, describing the planet, people, culture, and history. It eliminates the need for artificial conversations to give the reader the same info. It's something I used in my previous draft and was told by more experienced authors to get rid of unless they were important to the story. In such cases, I was encouraged to put present the information as thoughts or dialogue. Personally, I liked doing them the way I had. If Star Wars can sell millions of books, then they're doing something right.

As for the ships, I'm thinking about some combination of your ideas and Amy's. I hope to keep it simple enough to be easy for readers to get it right away, without me hitting them with names that have no obvious connection to the planet they're associated with. The 5th Fleet in the U.S. Navy gives me no information as to its mission and location. I then have to explain that to the reader, and they have to remember it, or worse, skip over it every time the see it. So, I'm thinking the Magellan Fleet for the planet's whole home fleet, and a Magellan force (or attack group) for a subset of that fleet going elsewhere in the galaxy.

I'm still mulling over Amy's suggestion to use different names instead of fleet, depending on which side of the galaxy's cold war you happen to be on. Thus, the Realm of Stars (one of the two galactic powers) might refer to their fleets as floatillas or assemblies. Those don't readily mean much, so it's a name I have to introduce and describe, and the user has to remember it. Fleet and force are pretty easy. The only special case currently is the Praetorian Guard and Praetorian Fleet, under the direct command of the emperor. As mentioned above, the Praetorian Guard (the emperor's personal legions) comes directly from Roman history. Praetorian Fleet is a futuristic extension of that concept.

I asked a few more people to weigh in to see what they suggest. I'll probably end up drawing on some combination of everyone's ideas.

Thanks, as always.
Dirk

3,879

(10 replies, posted in Writing Tips & Site Help)

After a little digging, I found that individual fleets in the U.S. navy are simply named with a number (e.g., the Fifth Fleet). That suggests that my home fleets be named for the system/planets they defend, so that leads to Magellan Fleet, New Bethlehem Fleet, etc. As Amy suggested, I might get creative and replace the word "fleet" with something else (e.g., armada, floatilla, force, navy, group). So that would give me something like: The Realm Fleet and a Realm force. The latter is not a name, just a description of a subset of the Realm Fleet.

3,880

(10 replies, posted in Writing Tips & Site Help)

Oops. I didn't realize you weren't the group, Amy. Welcome aboard! And thank you for the feedback. I asked a few others to weigh in, so I'll wait to see what they say before I finalize my caps rules.

Gracias.
Dirk

3,881

(520 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

Janet, be sure to spell it correctly: Lady Kay.

3,882

(1 replies, posted in Spirituality & Religion)

Also, here is the Celtic Woman version. Also fantastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqEW2KnsZdM

Dirk

3,883

(1 replies, posted in Spirituality & Religion)

Probably the best rendition of this song I've ever heard. This song can heal a wounded soul.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0gLntLIBYw

Dirk

I spent a lot of time in corners as a kid. I'm quite good at it.

In reality, we got spanked. No timeouts.

I turned out so well I have to write using a penname. :-)

Dirk

This gospel song sung by Josh Grobin is absolutely incredible. It builds gently, then blows your doors off around the 3:15 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oni0tO_HN30

I hope you enjoy it.
Dirk

3,886

(7 replies, posted in The Aurora Mission)

I'm glad you're feeling better, Tom. Health has me sidelined quite often too. Writing is my escape, although I can't often concentrate enough to write, so I just review and collect a bazillioin points.

Karen, whenever you want to start reviewing, please know that most of the early chapters are about two years old, and I knew a lot less about writing back then. I took some time near the end Act II to read a whole bunch of books on writing and to reread a lot of sci-fi from the perspective of an author. I was pleasantly surprised to see a recent Star Wars novel that uses a few pages of narration at the beginning of chapters where there's a new planet/setting/people to describe. No phony dialogue between MC and sidekick to do that. Seabrass would not approve. :-)

You'll also see epigraphs in my book that are probably similar to what you're going to do. Some of the old chapters use real quotes from history (e.g., from Albert Einstein and JFK). Eventually, I plan to replace all of those with made up information (e.g., news reports, confidential memos, blog posts, etc.) from within my universe set in the year 4017. I still have plenty of references to real human history for added realism to my story.

Thanks
Dirk

3,887

(2 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Max, you should be able to see it on your Reviews page under Inline Posted. I think that's where I found mine once. Click on that and you're good to go.

Dirk

3,888

(7 replies, posted in Spirituality & Religion)

Thank you, Mike. I appreciate your insight, as always.

Dirk

KHippolite wrote:

a comfy... electric chair. Designed to give you a friendly jolt whenever you stop typing. 10 000 volts says you get that chapter finished.

Oh, man. I would be in serious trouble if that were the case. They would pull out old sparky in Florida for me.

3,890

(7 replies, posted in Spirituality & Religion)

You didn't address my question about legitimate authority, which I'm very curious about.

As I mentioned, Hitler (though a racist killer from the beginning) was, for a time, the elected authority of Germany. Was there anything Germans could have/should have done to topple him? When?

Thanks.
Dirk

3,891

(7 replies, posted in Spirituality & Religion)

Thank you, Mike.

I disagree with your final assessment about me. I was a great fan of George Bush Sr., but am opposed to unnecessary killing of any kind, so I have no respect for W. I had great hopes for Obama but was turned off by his indiscriminate use of drone strikes, especially when the administration first claimed the drones had never killed any innocent bystanders.

Admittedly, I don't give a damn about the marathon bomber. I would have preferred to see him locked away in a tiny cell in a supermax prison with no one to talk to but himself for the next fifty years. But that's just me wanting revenge for what he did. I accept that he's going to get an early and easy death.

I'm aware of the interpretation of thou shalt not murder, but will need to research it. When I first heard it some years ago, I thought it was a convenient modern invention to bypass a very clear law from God.

Thanks for your help, as always.
Dirk

3,892

(7 replies, posted in Spirituality & Religion)

Thank you, Mike.

Isn't Romans 13 superceded by the Ten Commandments (thou shalt not kill)? I would think they would be considered the most important laws from God, especially, as in this case, where there are inconsistencies in what the Bible says. Why execute someone when a cornerstone of the Bible says never to take a life?

Hitler was the legitimate authority of Germany before becoming dictator. People who followed his laws eventually found themselves in the hands of a dictator responsible for 60 million deaths, including both of my grandfathers.

Compare that to the 2001 U.S. election. A conservative-led Supreme Court decided an election in favor of George W. Bush rather than wait for a recount. The result was a war with Iraq in which as many as 1 million people died, all for non-existent weapons of mass destruction.

Does Romans 13 apply in the above cases? Who decides what is legitimate authority?

Dirk

One of my characters, Apollo, is currently struggling with the fact that someone keeps killing people he wants dead, although he doesn't know who's doing it. Since the dead men (two so far) were evil, the galaxy is almost certainly better off without them. Apollo inherited a violent empire and is trying to steer clear of unnecessary killing. Events, however, are spinning out of control.

That brings me to a question about God's love vs. his wrath. There are many instances in the Old Testament of God's wrath.
In addition, in Deuteronomy, it says: "You must not show pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, and foot for foot."
Exodus has a similar verse.

Yet the Ten Commandments also say "Thou shalt not kill." and Jesus tells us to turn the other cheek.

When then is killing/capital punishment acceptable for Christians? The media usually just lumps conservative Christians with proponents of capital punishment as if they go hand-in-hand, which I don't believe. For example, should the Boston Marathon bomber have been sentenced to death?

I was wondering if someone in the group could address this for me.

Thanks.
Dirk

I considered having an angry mob tear the emperor limb from limb when I killed him off, but felt it was more fun to melt him with acid.
Lady Kay needs an equally ludicrous death. After all, she's a special character. :-)

By the way, was it obvious that Bunny did her laughing fit on purpose to get the senior anchor role? I want to make sure that comes across.

Thanks
Dirk

3,895

(10 replies, posted in Writing Tips & Site Help)

Capitalization in my book is driving me nuts. Following is the latest example. This is a space opera set in Earth's distant future, where the Roman Empire has been resurrected. There are two major galactic powers: the Imperium Romanum and the Realm of Stars.

For consistency, I always capitalize the word Imperial as it's synonymous with Imperium. (Think of it as saying Canadian instead of Canada - both are capitalized.)

I have a large force of Imperial guards that protect the emperor, the Imperial palace, and the city of Rome (capital of the Imperium). This force is known as the Praetorian Guard, which existed in the actual Roman Empire. I also have an elite squad of those guards that protect the emperor personally, around-the-clock. I can't find a name for them from history, so I've been calling them the elite guard. I'm toying with calling them the Elite Guard (in caps). Star Wars refers to the emperor's guards as the Red Guards.

Fleets of starships in the Imperium are divided into two types: home fleets that defend individual planets, and the Praetorian fleet, which is under the direct command of the emperor at all times. Home fleets are commanded by Imperial governors, in the emperor's name.

First problem, if the "guard" is called the "Praetorian Guard", then shouldn't the emperor's fleet be called the "Praetorian Fleet" (caps on Fleet)? I'm leaning that way.

If I call it the Praetorian Fleet, then what happens when I divide up that fleet to attack several different planets, which happens? Is each part of the Praetorian Fleet also to be called Praetorian Fleet, or should those smaller armadas be called Praetorian fleet (no caps on fleet)? I'm leaning toward the latter.

Also, if I go with Praetorian Fleet, then what about the Imperium and the Realm? Should Imperial Fleet be caps when I refer to the whole thing (home fleets + Praetorian Fleet)? It seems odd to write "Imperial fleet" when the emperor's part of that fleet is the "Praetorian Fleet".

That then brings me to the Realm. Should I use Realm Fleet to refer to the whole entity, and Realm fleet to refer to individual armadas?

One of the Realm planets featured in the story is New Bethlehem. Should its fleet be called the New Bethlehem Fleet or the New Bethlehem fleet?

Finally, what do I name the two fleets in the final battle that represent most (but not all!) of the two fleets? Imperial Fleet and Realm Fleet, or Imperial fleet and Realm fleet?

My head hurts.

Thanks.
Dirk

3,896

(6 replies, posted in Writing Tips & Site Help)

What's a typewriter?

Yeah, I do that in a few places, such as when he's talking to the doctor or discussing the commando raid with the head of the Praetorian Guard.

I'll just clothe them all in red shirts. :-)

Dirk

I find myself frequently mentioning that Apollo's guards are nearby or with him. For example: Apollo, his generals, and the elite guard entered the war room. I'm wondering if it's necessary. I'm thinking of finding a place or two to say they're always with him and be done with it. However, that would change the above example to: Apollo and his generals entered the war room. Is that likely to cause confusion?

Thanks
Dirk

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(11 replies, posted in Writing Tips & Site Help)

Just to play devil's advocate, these words are part of the English language, so I have little concern about using them. The only people who might care are editors and fellow authors, neither of whom is likely to be a significant part of my target audience. I prefer to write stories the way I would tell them.

I'm in the middle of a Star Wars novel. They break all kinds of rules about good writing. Yet, the story reads well throughout, except it has too mansy names of places, technology, and charactes.

End of rant.
Dirk

amy s wrote:

OK, I've posted my first draft of Katerin's short story for the Cop Shop contest. Does anyone have any time for a review? Figure if I'm going to write for the contest, I should have something that I can use in my storyline.

More Katerin, NJC…How did I do?

Amy, what's the name of the story. I can't it.

Dirk