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Kdot wrote:

Well... take my thoughts with a grain of salt because I was confusing legionarii and classiarii (and still can't keep them straight).

Adding more divisions and ranks will only make me more lost. Thus, you must choose between "fresh" readers and readers with a good command of latin. I see no major issue with any option as long as you know your readiability going in, and provide sufficient explanations to handle it.

-K

I'll take that as a preference for option 1. I'm surprised that classiarii (Imperial marines) and legionarii (Imperial ground forces) threw you. I assumed everyone was fine with it, since there were no complaints. I guess that means you're looking forward to the addition of candidati. :-)

Did the use of Roman ranks as the names of ship classes cause any problems?

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Okay, here's a gherkin.

Following is the list of Roman ranks I pulled together from the internet:
- Praefectus classis - admiral
- Legate - general
- Tribune - colonel
- Praefectus castrorum - major
- Centurion - captain
- Optio - lieutenant

Note that admiral and major are both prefects. Not exactly logical in our day, so that would be confusing to the reader. Even if that wasn't the case, the reader is going to forget what each Roman rank means unless I reinforce it over and over. A further complication is that some of the above ranks are Anglicized, while others are not. Add to this the fact that I use legionarii (ground troops) and classiarii (marines) in their Latin form, since I thought it was cool. Yet, I use Praetorian Guard in English. I also learned that candidati is the Latin word for the emperor's personal protection detail, which I called the Elite Guard in v2. I prefer the Latin whenever possible, provided the reader's head doesn't explode.

So, what do I do with this crap? Options are:
1. Leave everything as is, except add candidati. That means keeping modern ranks in English for the Imperials, and use just legionarii, classiarii, and candidati in Latin. Use the best of the Latin titles for classes of Imperial ships (Praetor, Consul, Tribune, and Centurion), which is how it's currently written.
2. Make it all Latin. Hopeless, as far as I can see. Too much for the reader to remember.
3. Use only the best known Roman ranks in place of their English equivalent. That would definitely include centurion in place of captain. It may also include tribune in lieu of colonel, and Praetor or Consul in place of governor. That leaves me with a mix of Roman and English: legionarii, classiarii, candidati, centurion, tribune (or colonel), admiral, general, major, and lieutenant.

Number 1 is easiest and relatively easy to understand. I could even rip out the ship classes, so there is no reference to Roman ranks in the book. Not sure if that's needed.
Number 3 is a bit of a mess, unless I limit Roman ranks to just centurion. Let's face it, the word centurion belongs in the book.

I'm leaning toward option 1.

For those who read the battle chapters and the new chapter one, did it strike you as confusing that I used Roman ranks (praetor, consul, tribune, centurion) as ship classes?

Thanks.

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I'm back to toying with military ranks in the Imperium. Currently, I use modern military ranks (captain, colonel, general, etc.). However, I also use Roman names for legionarii and classiarii. And I use Roman military ranks as classes of ships. Confused yet? Anyone with a basic understanding of Roman history will probably wonder why the hell military titles aren't used for the Imperial military.

Ranks that would be used for the Imperial military would include prefect (general), praetor, tribune, centurion (captain), etc. I'd like to use the titles correctly, but I worry that readers will constantly scratch their heads when they see these ranks. There are, however plenty of films about the Roman era that do use these ranks, although probably not as many as I need.

Thoughts?

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Time for deep breathing exercises, Aussie.

I'll throw another shrimp on the barbie for you, Mate. With two bottles of apricot brandy as a chaser. Damn, that stuff tastes good!

And we can watch reruns of the Star Wars prequel trilogy all weekend!

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Rindfleischetikettierungsueberwachungsaufgabenuebertragungsgesetz (longest German word)

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Eighttrackphobia

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Janet (AJ) Reid wrote:
Norm d'Plume wrote:

Janet, I added "mate" to the chapter, as you suggested. It's hilarious. I only use it once at the end when the AI is pissed off about the lack of respect. It says: Listen, Mate, I've asked you repeatedly to refer to me as Queen Aussie...

You're my hero! I think that spot is perfect! smile

I can't wait to do more with Aussie. I'll make the AI way over-the-top Australian. He'll hail from your neck of the woods, Woop Woop. tongue

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Kdot wrote:

- I agree that Apollo's arc is more dramatic. I'll see if I can further amp up the tension in Joseph's chapter.

I don't believe that's possible within the desired structure. I also don't believe it's warranted. I did not suffer a disconnect between the two stories (Sorry, Amy).

The increased tension seems like a good idea. Most of it is already swirling in my head - the hidden assassin, the homophobic decisions he makes that kill Andrew and his cadets, him truly despising Adam, as opposed to simply being mad at him (boo hoo), etc.

Kdot wrote:

My disconnect, as you know,was Caligula.

He'll get more nuanced screen time (setting up the Caligula chapter), plus he undergoes a miraculous change of behavior after the blast to his head. I want there to be enough clues that something's not right, right up to the reveal. I didn't care for him as a character until I came up with his hidden plot. Now I love him, which is the main reason he survived the battle. I want to do more with him. I could see putting him, Lady Kay, Leonardo, and Aussie in a book on the edge of settled space.

Kdot wrote:

- As I mentioned in my response to Amy, Act II needs work. There isn't enough animosity between the MCs, fur flying, etc. I do have to stop a couple of times in the book to actually allow Joseph to define the Christian Heresy, beginning with the New Commandments, which slows the pace. His thoughts that lead him to unify the Essence, reincarnation, and evolution need trimming, but I think they're more interesting than the commandments.

This is the basic premise of the story. Why are you trimming that part?

No plans to get rid of them. Just expressing a preference for the stuff in Act III. I was thinking of trimming the chapter with the Essence. I crammed in too much stuff. It drags.

Kdot wrote:

. His scheme mirrors that of the Imperium's founder, which is a nice connection. I also needed a chapter from his point of view in order to hide the surprise that Apollo is still alive.

Why hide it?

There are other ways to write it, but there's not much point to the Caligula chapter unless he gets an enemy. Who better than Apollo?

Kdot wrote:

Stage 3:
After the mumbling stage he should start to see furtive mevements from the car of his eye. When he randonly turns to look, people are staring at him quizzically. He's not sure if they're doing it to unnerve him. He finds muddy footprints in his room when he wakes up. Security assures him no one was in there. He starts imagining Aphrodite is cheating on him. He can suddenly no longer write straight - he hires a scribe.

Stage 4:
He starts to worry about poison (specifically of the exploding bowel nature). Hires a tate tester. Hires a second backup tester. Aphrodite grows distant. He thinks it's a conspiracy. He randomly has her arrested and searched for evidence (comes up empty-handed). Good time to throw in an exploding car bomb from the Heresy.

Need more? Amy and Seabrass are also good at this.

Very nice stuff. Is it copyrighted?

Kdot wrote:

S: Joseph needs a burning bush encounter. It's kind of a Judaic staple.

Awesome idea.

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Kdot wrote:

that would be like trying to ignore the sun

The sun? Giver of life?

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Janet, I added "mate" to the chapter, as you suggested. It's hilarious. I only use it once at the end when the AI is pissed off about the lack of respect. It says: Listen, Mate, I've asked you repeatedly to refer to me as Queen Aussie...

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Amy, I left out the smilies in my post. I assumed they were implicit. Sorry about that. I've been emulating Kranky with his unique wit, so let's blame it all on him. :-)

As for God being real or not, I walk a fine line like a staggering drunk. Just when the reader thinks they're real, I do something that makes them sure they aren't. And vice versa. That's intentional since it adds a little fun, I think. One is the things God says whenever the two MCs are together: he says things about the non-POV MC as if he knows things about him that only God could know.

There are a number of other examples scrambled somewhere in my head. For example, when Apollo begins to trust God at the end of Act III, he gets arrested on New Beth. God tells him not to worry because that's exactly what's supposed to happen. Another is when God tells Joseph to volunteer at the haven hospital. He saves Anikh from the fire, only to have her die in his arms, which triggers his decision to create the Christian Heresy. Also, there are the muscle urges that allow Apollo to beat the shogun, as well as the urge to pee and his head jolting. For obvious reasons, there are always other explanations, even if the odds are very slim.

I'll be adding another one in v3. Joseph's God will use some expression regularly and Apollo's God will use it at least once in some obvious place in the story to create a WTF moment.

I've had reviewers tell me they were sure one way or the other about God, which suggests I'm achieving a reasonable balance between the two possibilities.

Again, sorry for the missing smilies. :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

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So, Australia goes for Windsor. You do realize, Janet, that I named her after the Queen, don't you? Windsor-Mountbatten, I believe is the correct spelling.

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Kdot wrote:

Sounds like a bit of excessive force

Huh?

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Group Think:

What do you think of my putting Admiral Windsor in Joseph's head (he's her grandson) for the whole story? Her appearance in chapter two, having just died in chapter one, would strongly suggest to the reader that she is real (in storytime, it's actually 11 years after her death, which I'll mention). Windsor is one of several ties to chapter one (Lupus and Aussie being the others). Naturally, I'll include the bit about mental illness, so there will still be some doubt from chapter two onward, just less so.

I'd have to reduce God's role in Joseph's half of the story. It also means the admiral would be the one to give Joseph his spine, rather than his deceased mother. The mother would die and disappear, so there would be no happy appearance by the mother in his head to assuage his guilt.

Similarly, Emperor Nero will appear in Apollo's head once Nero dies, but not until the end of act II.

Thoughts?

Sol, I was wondering if you plan to update the print function in the chapter view. It's missing the closing comments and the author's reply. I'm using Google's print function as a workaround.

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Janet (AJ) Reid wrote:

How many words Dirk?

4500

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amy s wrote:

I really like the sympathetic pain thing, BTW. That is an awesome complication for both MC's.
A

Now you tell me, when I've written a complete draft? <insert grumble>

Six months ago, you had kittens because there was too much of a link between their lives, meaning that God must have been real:
- They both hear God when they are young (though not at the same age/year).
- In v3, Apollo will hear multiple (2) voices in his head, just like Joseph does (3).
- Young kid dies at the same time in both their lives (Andrew and William); William will be Apollo's best friend in v3 to create more anger/hatred in Apollo.
- They were both deeply affected by the first attack on New Bethlehem, causing each to accept their destinies.
- Things keep happening in Act II where God comments in such a way that strongly suggests he knows about/is the other God.
- Joseph accidentally kills his mother; right after that Apollo's father is killed.
- The shogun appears in both their lives, abusing each MC.
- Apollo is almost killed by Lupus; Joseph is almost killed by the shogun.
- They both leave Earth at the same time.

Nevertheless, your point is well taken. I haven't causally linked the two MC's events. It's two stories that only coincide in Acts 2 and 4. However, the sympathetic pain between them doesn't seem possible, since that definitely demonstrates God is real, doesn't it?

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Quick poll. Is it okay that my opening chapter is 18 double-spaced pages (roughly 3.0 points)? I usually try to keep my chapters between 10 and 15. It grew by a couple of pages because of the return of the loony AI. I'm not finding much to trim. And no, K, I'm not ripping out the AI again. It's a recurring character.

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Janet (AJ) Reid wrote:

I've left additional comments on your replies Dirk. I ignored K of course! tongue

Thanks, Janet.

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Thanks, Don.

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I already wrote the cameos for Amy (Dr. Ess) and njc (the Professor and founder of Acmy, Inc.). They'll both appear in Act I.

Thanks for the review, Your Majesty, Aussie Reid. Just think, you almost became Jangaroo, but it was a little too silly for the battle.

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LMAO (apologies for all the cursing)

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WTF?

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Hi. Can someone please tell me if there is a way to hide an entire book (not just the chapters) without losing the book and all of the associated chapter reviews. I can't afford to lose those.

Thanks.
Dirk

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