rhiannon wrote:I agree with Fred Miller's definition of science fiction vs. fantasy. SF is in an orderly universe, governed by understandable natural laws. Fantasy isn't.
Anything vs. fantasy is an orderly universe, governed by understandable natural laws versus fantasy which isn't.
I'm not really eager to come into this debate, but I disagree with this point. Tolkien wrote Fantasy, but his world has its laws. They are rooted in myth rather than in modern physical science, but there are laws.
I would argue (and don't want to argue at length!) that Science Fiction is characterized by differences from our world that are expressed through the physical sciences, whereas Fantasy is characterized by differences from our world that are expressed as myth or craft.
Consider my recent chapter A Lesson with Kirsey (sitting, for convenience, as ch 94 of The Sorcerer's Progress, Book 1: Children and Beasts). Does the introduction of wave functions turn it from magic into science? I don't think so, but you might.

