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Changes tested.  Improvement real but not nearly good enough.

Summary: a state change must flip two swiches at once.  Before it did at some voltages, but its behavior was far too voltage dependent.  The problem was that the 'action' connecting the switches moved them at different rates, but they just happened to line up right.  Now I've got the movements roughly matched, but there is still some battery rail dependency, and I don't see the cause.  If I have to I can live with this, because it's a half-volt zone in between the on-hook and off-hook states ... but I'd like to know what's happening.

A quick look at the circuit, then sleep!

Another followup:  Solace celebrates Tazar saved.  Solace doesn't know whether to be happy or terrified when Tazar is released.  Tazar demands that Solace, Thug, and newguy be freed as well, and -that- is when Solace's elation erupts, with another brief reversal per the review.

Lesson for all of them, including especially Lewellen?

Oh, Lewellen's painful chest.  Could get a small mention on the way out.

On the close: do you want the camera on the prison or on the redeemers and the redeemed?

Followup thought on Tazar and Alda: Will Alda see in Tazar's willful simplicity something that she sees in some holy people?  I really do see an axis of some sort, a slow-growing mutual respect, even admration, that neither presumes nor demands, but leaves plenty of distance.

Review is up.  I'm afraid it's longer than the chapter.  But <grin>it's not all bad</grin>.

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The varying battery rail voltage opened a weakness in the design that I papered over before.  All is not lost.  It's not even really misplaced.   A little more attention shows that I should have a couple of resistor values balanced differently.  If I move one additional resistor and (perhaps) make it as big as practical, I should be able to square things up.  I may have to adjust another value or two to put the thresholds where I need them.  I'm working with currents so small that even a good digital voltmeter will draw enough current to completely change the circuit's behavior.  Ah, for an old-time vacuum-tube voltmeter!

I found the misbehaviour by spending an hour carefully setting supply rail voltages and testing the thresholds and outputs.  Lab work is tedious but important#########critical.

It's getting too late to make that trip to Home Depot today.  I have to get some brackets and mending plates, and I'll have to drill and tap the latter.  They're made of good, hard steel, so I'll have a very sore wrist when I'm done.  But not tonight.

(I broke a tap in one of the durn things learning how to do it.  Enough oil, and back the tap frequently to break the chips.)

Now, to the review for Amy.

Good to hear from you!  Hope to have you back participating soon.

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janet reid wrote:

Idea #2

On one of our projects at work we needed loading arms to be replaced before tanker drivers were allowed to disconnect. The instrumentation guys used some or other connector switch with a spring loaded mechanism. The same concept could be applied to a handset I guess .... Should be heaps easier than playing with voltage ranges if you can find a connector that would do the trick?

It requires mechanical work that potentially interferes with the phone.  It will be different for each phone model.  It will require extra wiring, and it will have to survive being tangled in a blanket without making the problem worse.

Sensing the voltage on the line has none of these problem, and it is a universal solution so long as you have POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service--yes, it's an industry term).  Given that I need timer and flasher, and that I want a box that will run for years on one set of batteries, the voltage detector is a reasonable increment of work.

The question is whether I'm better off with discrete components or with a solution based on MOS integrated circuits.  At this point, if I were starting with what I know now I think I'd look at a solution involving the three-terminal ICs I'm using for undervolt sensing ... but that's hindsight and I'm just tuning the design now.

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First, it has to be something that she doesn't operate.  She won't be bothered to do it.

Second, it detects the off-hook state by the DC component of the voltage on the phone line.  On-hook is a nominal -48v, but it can range from about 30 to 54 volts (negative).  Off-hook should be around -7 volts, but again it can vary--and the standard design Bell System phone varied the volume fed back from the microphone to the earpiece (called the sidetone) to coax you to speak louder on a connection with a longer wire to the central office.  You were made into the gain control adjustment.

Hold buttons generally hold the line near -12 volts.

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Well, not too far down the road we see the children changing into beasts in Shogran's yard.  Does that convince you?

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Here's the Little Fugue in g-Minor on the harpsichord.  The plucked timbre is a little bell-like and might appeal to Collin.  It's a slower recording.  This organ recording uses mostly sweet stops, somewhat bright and very articulate, with distinct chiff.

You can find youtubes of this piece played on guitars and by tuba ensembles!

Okay, Cesar Frank.  Hmm.  One of the 'problems' of classical music is that you have slow intros.  Still ...

Okay, here's a very characteristic recording of the Cantabile.  Not the first piece I would have chosen, but there are interesting harmony things going on.  It starts moderately, but does get a little louder.  It's possible that some of the stops will be too strident, but it shouldn't be outrageously so.

Here's a moderately registered version of the Toccata from Widor's Organ Symphony nr 5.

Liszt, Hungarian Rhapsody nr 2..

The Mahler Symphony nr 8.  I suspect its dynamics will be too much, at least for the first minute thirty-five.

HTH, as they like to say.

Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody nr 2, piano.  Plenty of them on youtube.  Let me poke around for one or two youtubes of others that aren't too strident.

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In reference to what?

At the moment, I'm trying to type up some of the reworked Erevain episode.  I'm going to have to back off some of the changes.

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Well, I have a tentative design.  Two, in fact, one for the off-hook line and one for the on-hook.  I'll have to test them tonight and see if the voltage thresholds are in range across the full range of allowable battery voltages.  I've been inconsistant about the lower end of the range, but if it works acceptably down to 3.25V (that's 13/16 Volt/cell) and up to 6.4V, I'll be reasonably happy.

The key is that the output stages of the detector and the input logic of the pilot flasher overlap.

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I'm not suggesting they be removed automatically, just flagged with a 'please check this' warning and a very visible display (boxing or background) so the author can't miss them.  It would be great if the pasting software could distinguish between tags visible in the pasted text and those that were somehow snuck in.  Since I don't know how the clipboard is implemented in Windoze (but can conclude that it almost certainly has malware vulnerabilities by the nature of the burdens placed on it) I can't suggest more.

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WB is not the only victim. Would it be practicable for your pasting software to check for these constructs, flag them out, and warn about them?  (Or should that go over to the wishlist?))

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I see I have to explain.  'mosfet', also MOSFET => Metal Oxide Semiconductor Field Effect Transistor.  More properly Insulated Gate Field Effect Transistor (IGFET) because metal oxide is just one of the things used for the gate insulator.  Mosfets belong to the FET family.

There are two big families of transistor-type devices, junction-based and field effect.  FETs are used for dense logic circuits because they can be made very small and the insulated gate variety draw power only when the logic state changes.  Eack kind has its strengths and weaknesses, but the preponderance of logic circuitry means that many more FETS are manufactured.

BJTs (Bipolar Junction Transistors) operate by a current controlling a current, and their gain numbers are unitless.  FETs are voltage controlling current, and their gain numbers have units of inverse resistance, which is conductance, so they are called transconductance devices.

I'm using a mix of them, trying to use each for its strengths.  You can get the datasheets for them via Google: ksc1845, ksa992, lp0701, tn0680.

My device has multiple modules: voltage detector, timer, flasher (with three multivibrator stages), a low-voltage detector for the battery, and a pilot light module (the three-way pigeon flasher).  There's also an input filter that faces the phone line, blocking the ringing signal, providing protection from voltage transients, and presenting a high impedance so that the box cannot affect the phone line.  The output from the filter goes to the voltage level detector, which is concerned with detecting on-hook and off-hook voltages.

The voltage detector, the timer, and the control parts of the flasher operate on three volts, provided by three-terminal regulators (commodity semiconductor parts) from the battery voltage, which starts as high as 6.4 volts with new cells, and drops to about 3.8 volts.  The undervolt detector (a commodity device with an adjustment provided by a BJT) turns on between 3.7 and 3.8 volts, and sends a signal to the 3-way pilot flasher to flash red, one very brief pulse roughly every six seconds.  The box as a whole will keep working to a bit under three volts, but the batteries should be replaced long before then.  It should be able to run the red flasher and the other circuitry for weeks before it stops working.

The voltage detector sends the off-hook signal to the timer, but it also sends off-hook and on-hook signals to the pilot flasher, causing it to flash yellow or green roughly every 20 seconds.  The rate will depends a little on the battery voltage, and also on which LED is being fired.

The problem is that the pigeon flasher is driven directly off the battery (to avoid wasting energy in the regulator) and the logic on and logic off levels it needs are not those provided by the voltage level detector.

Both the off-hook detector and the on-hook detector use a BJT as the first stage, surrounded by resistors that bypass them until a certain current (measured in the nano-amps to micro-amps) makes it through the high-impedence input filter (DC impedance over 30 million ohms).  What follows involves going from first-order approximations in theory to second-order approximations.

The low-level (off-hook) detector (which is bypassed and shut down when the high-level detector goes active) turns on and draws current from the positive rail through a resistor, causing the voltage between the resistor and the BJT to drop away from the positive rail.  This turns on a MOSFET that (a) drives a hysteresis circuit and (b) operates another MOSFET to invert the logic and drive the timer.

Now, I may be able to drive that resistor from the unregulated (battery voltage) rail instead, if two conditions hold.  First, the MOSFET has to be able to stand the gate going more positive than the source terminal.  It can, within limits.  I would be within those limits.  Second, the voltage drop would have to be enough to turn the MOSFET on in spite of the extra voltage to be overcome, and that extra voltage would effect the circuit's turn-on voltage to some degree.  Right now the resistor is 910 kilohms (all resistors having 5% tolerance in their values) and the turn-on current is about a third of a microamp, which means that I need about a three quarters of a nanoamp at the base of the first transistor (assuming a gain of 450 in the transistor at those current levels--see the datasheet).  Its base-emitter bypass resistor is about 7 megohms, and at those current levels the base-emitter turn-on voltage is around four-tenths of a volt, so it needs about 55 nanoamps  before it turns on.

Now, if instead of .4 volts to turn on the second-stage MOSFET, I need that .4 volts plust the possible 3.4 volts between the battery rail and the regulated rail, I will need about eight times the current at both output and input of the first BJT--that's six to seven nanoamps instead of three quarters after the 55 nanoamp bypass, a change from less than one percent to about ten percent, and -that- will change the input voltage threshold by the same ratio.

It appears that I can raise that 910Kohm resistor by a factor of five or so, reducing the current needed from the first stage transistor proportionally, and thus reducing the input current by nearly the same proportion.  (Refer to the datasheet; at these collector (output) currents, the gain drops as the current drops.)  This will reduce (but not eliminate) the load on the current through the input bypass resistor, and reduce the sensitivity to battery voltage.

The question to answer is what third-order effects occur.  At lower battery voltages, the input transistor will be saturated, which will reduce the effect of the hysteresis circuit and might make the stage resist turning on at all.  The quickest way to find out is to try it.

The added resistance will slow the turn-off of the detector output when the BJT turns off.  The output-side MOSFET's insulated gate input acts like a capacitor, storing charge (but not so linearly; see the datasheet) and must discharge through the resistor.  A larger resistor means a slower discharge, although the driving voltage will be higher.  So long as I'm under two hundred milliseconds, I figure I'm fine.  I can even tolerate a one-second with the box in use, but such delays make it very hard to measure the thresholds.

The high-level (on-hook) detector has similar issues, but they are magnified by the use of two BJT current amplifiers, and a third to bypass and shut off the low-voltage detector.  I'm not going to drag that out here unless you insist, but there are also interactions with the low-voltage detector to consider.

Nah.  I have little use for most of what passes for music today.  Oh, a couple more warhorses to try: the famous Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody nr 2, maybe Liszt's Totentanz for piano and Orchestra, and maybe parts of Dvorak's From the New World symphony (variously numbered 2, 9, and others).  You'll find versions to try on Youtube.

If he's really into  bells, there's always change ringing on handbells.

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I thought I saw them go away a while ago.

Dagnabbit.

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I just took a look at Wilma Bailey's -Bees- poem on the mobile interface and the word-turned-into-link problem showed up again, near the end, in the word 'garden'.

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Sigh.  Circuit changes aren't enough ... but I think I see ones that are.  I have to see whether they would make the voltage detector too sensitive to the battery voltage.  The L07011 and TN0620 mosfets can take the extra voltage.  Hmmm.

Organ music will vary by recording, since the organist chooses the registration to match the piece to the instrument.

Two pieces come to mind: Saint-Saens's Organ (3rd) Symphony, which provided the music for Babe and the Toccata from Widor's Fifth Organ Symphony.  The first uses the organ as several parts added to the orchestra, the second is a pure organ piece.  The Saint Saens symphony is unlikely to be strident in any recording, except possibly for a few very brief moments when flutes and piccolos are pushed.  The Widor piece is more dependent on performer, instrument, and hall.

Note that many organs are tuned to an older concert pitch.  If Collin has true absolute pitch, he may notice this.

French Romantic organs have some of the best rumble, hum, and purr, especially those by Aristede Cavaille-Coll, whose works are each landmarks in the art.  Franck, Widor, and Saint-Saens played on such instruments, or those modelled on them, will -generally- be less strident.  There are exceptions.

I'm especially fond of Franck's Cantabile, Piece Heroique, and the Chorale nr 3 in b-Minor.  Again, stridency will vary from performance to performance.  Franck's work tends to be introspective.

For harmonic complexity, you cannot beat Bach.  The problem is that organists like to use the upperwork in the densest harmonies, and much upperwork is strident.

In Bach, look for recordings of the Little Fugue in g-Minor.  You might also try recordings of The Art of the Fugue, not necessarily on the organ.  A piano or harpsichord performance will avoid the stridency while maintaining all the melodic and harmonic complexity.

Also try the Mahler 8th Symphony.  The 2-part recording on Youtube by Dudamel is a wonder, more for the circumstances of its creation.  Dudamel got just about every vocalist and chorister over the age of about five in Venezuala in one hall and rehearsed for a week or so.  At over 1400 vocalists, it's believed to be the largest one ever.  (He uses only 3 of the 4 keyboards the work is written for, either omitting the harmonium or giving its parts to the organ.)  The best recording may still be the one by Neuman from around 1980 (plus or minus).  The symphony has a few dramatic dynamic moments, but mostly it's a stream of beautiful sound.  The opening few bars are louder, in varying degrees depending on the recording.

I once kept a six-year-old tranquil for 40 minutes or so by plopping Walkman headphones on her and playing a tape of the Neuman recording.  She sat transfixed the whole time.  She'd be around 22 now.  I wonder from time to time if she ever remembers that music and wonders what it was.

I saw a hockey game at MSG many years ago and the home-team goal horn was so loud it hurt my ears.  Collin was lucky.

Organ music does tend to show off the dynamic range and timbral powers of the instrument, but there are exceptions.  I'm thinking particularly of the Bach F-Major Toccata, which is also one of the happiest pieces I know of.  It's paired with a fugue that is more dramatic, but you can find recordings of the toccata alone, especially on youtube.  Although, even there you might want to turn the treble down a bit and ride the volume.  I'm sure there are recordings which wouldn't cause a problem, but you'd have to hunt for them.  Maybe a couple of the old regordings by EPBiggs?  Organist builders and organists are fond of upper harmonics, though they often take it too far.

There are--or were--facial depilatory product, but I would be leery of using them on an unwilling or less-than-competent person because they still have to be strong alkalis, just very well bufferred, and your using them in the vicinity of lips, mouth, and eyes.

The buzz comes from an oscillating 'motor', usually driven right off the powerline frequency.  The rotary (3-head) Norelcos don't have that buzz because they are (wait for it) ...) rotary.  That doesn't mean they don't have sounds, and maybe even a pseudo-buzz.  You should find out, assuming they are still available.

Of course, you could get him used to organ music, with its bassy pedal and its wide variety of tootling, roaring, buzzing, snarling, braying, squealing, and sparkling pipes.  Short example here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V2rIlIsi7XA  .  (Incidentally, 'snarl' and 'buzz' are both terms organbuilders use in describing the sounds of pipes.)

Incidentally, have you read Not Even Wrong?

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You make it sound like I know something.  If I know something, I don't know it.

You're hoarding clues, too.  Clues, too, yes, you!  (AABA)

I do need to get stuff out.