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I'd say a long break in time, a big change in ensemble, or a strong change/break in the story such as creating the problem vs. solving it.

Now, taking EQ's The Finishing Stroke as an example: the section I'm calling a prologue is quite long and a small story of its own.  It takes place something like 20 years before the main body of the story.

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One more thought.  I'm not very far into Randall Krzak's Bedlam but I'm left wondering how much the characters of the first chapter will figure in subsequent chapters.  If the answer is 'not much' or 'not much, except for one of them' I would suggest calling the chapter a prologue, simply because the different characters make it a different-but-connected story.

I saw it.  Review this evening.

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(342 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Another oddity: when I enter an in-line comment on an italicized word, the comment shows up italicized.  I suspect that you want the comment in the same base font and style as the main text body, but it would be nice to use the base style info from the paragraph as a whole, or from the work as a whole.

Fine-tuning, I know.

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You meant the opening crawl?  I don't know that I'd call that a prologue, and it took an outside editor to cut it down to size.

More practical, sometimes.

PoV is a part of How the Story is Told.

What presentation best engages the reader over the course of the story?  What best presents the story as the author sees it unfolding?

Forget this and all is lost.

amy s wrote:

Is that so much to ask?

If you have to ask, you know that someone will give an answer you don't want.

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I understand and use the term to mean a break in the story that moves back in time to present something that came before the time of the story's opening, followed another break that returns to the point where the first break occurred.  This may be a character's memory, or the events that a character is remembering or recounting, or something else.

The lack of the leading break is why I don't think a story opening, prologue or not, can be called a flashback.

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Prologue as flashback is a contradiction in terms.  You haven't yet established a present, so you can't flash back from the established present.  A prologue used that way is history, a part of the story occuring some time before the rest.

True, it's framed by Harry's dream.  But within the frame we follow Frank's PoV.

Janet Taylor-Perry wrote:

Yes, cobber, Harry is strictly limited POV. All from Harry's. Rowling did a good job with that. The only scene not in Harry's POV is in one of the later books in the chapter "The Other Minister" where she tells us all about the havoc Voldemort is causing when he comes back.


Also the scene with Frank and Voldemort opening, I think, GoF.  When you protagonist is not in the scene, he can't be your PoV character.  Look at the very first scene of the very first book.

It can be done well, though.  You can change PoV from chapter to chapter and scene to scene, and even within a scene if you are deft.  C.J.Driftwood does it here in some of his most powerful scenes and it detracts not one whit.

It's also an accepted part of the Romance genre, or so I am told.

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I think that the key is that the prologue has to be story, enaging story, rather than just an info dump.  It can be the part of the story that sets up for the action, so long as the reader can feel strong potential in the setup.  But if it's a story in and of itself, so much the better.  I'm thinking now of Ellery Queen's The Finishing Stroke, which may have been meant to close the series.

Compare that with the J.J.McHugh intros in the early Queens, especially The Chinese Orange Mystery.

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When I try to get to it, I get the other chapter.  Or are you suggesting on the multi-stage dialogue?  Okay, yes, it does come up.

Sigh.  Your design is based on scenarios first and data second.  That means that little-used scenarios are hard to recall.  Base it on data that is always used and the scenarios are easy to find and follow.  Not the way you design an ATM, but an ATM has a small set of transactions that are shallow to the user.

Anyway, it's done.  Thanks for the reminder.

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Sol, I have a belated auto-renumbering problem.  I didn't catch it earlier, and I can't fix it myself now.

The Sorcerers Progress: Children and Beasts has two Chapter 21's.  The second, Lunch at Logchem's, should be number 27.  While it might be possible to fiddle with other numbers to make this one accessible, I'm afraid of making things worse.  Can you set it right?

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I don't have a lot of time right now.

I think you've stated your case well, but it's not enough to convince me.

It comes back to interpretations of destiny and choice.  If someone could look at my future and read it, would that mean I was not free to make the choices that lead to it?

Theologians have thought about this a lot, especially Catholic theologians, since in order to give us free will, God (as Catholics understand God) must not only withdraw omnipotence but must assent to and participate in every act flowing from our free will.  (Which makes sin pretty horrible.)  They see paths out of the paradox.

The Copenhagen Interpretation may be right, and yet it seems that every attempt to close the door on alternate theories does not quite succeed.  I'm not convinced.  The question may yet be decided.  The question may remain open.  That's all I know.  My sense of fitness is against the CI, but that doesn't count for a mound of Maxwell House.  I'm just not going to commit o the CI being the 'real' fit for the evidence so long as there is an alternative explanation that's scientifically plausible and that looks better to me.

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Gods Ghost wrote:

Also, calling me on a minor spelling error ? lol

This is a writer's site.  I was offering a helpful edit. smile

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Gods Ghost wrote:

See, it wasnt an imaginary universe conjured by Heisen, it was a proven fact about the reality WE live in. The experiment has a difinitive outcome ...

I think it's spelled 'definitive'.

The Copenhagen Interpretation is just that, an Interpretation and a belief system.

Do you quarrel with the Wikipedia article which reads

The De Broglie–Bohm pilot wave theory is one of several interpretations of quantum mechanics. It uses the same mathematics as other interpretations of quantum mechanics; consequently, it is also supported by the current experimental evidence to the same extent as the other interpretations.

and which asserts that John Stewart Bell (of Bell's Theorem) supports the Pilot Wave theory, acknowledging that it is a hidden variable theory?

If you do, on what grounds?

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dagnee wrote:

My WiFi is fine. This is the only site I have trouble loading, so that's why I asked. Sometimes even refreshing the connection doesn't work, and the problem seems to be getting worse.

There can be interactions between the way the message is framed for transfer over the network and the network itself.  A  network that transmits one site without difficulty can gag on another site, a site which runs fine on most networks.

Networks are immensely complicated. For self-flagelatory fun and edification you can look up the RFC's (protocol design documents) on the site of the IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force), assuming that the FCC and the UN have not forcibly wrested technical control away from the engineers who make it all work.

Postscript: Just for giggles, here's the index page.  Thirty seconds of eye-glazing reading of titles is probably enough for any sane sophant.

Postpostscript: Here's one for those who are into (mental) pain.

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Also, could we preserve line breaks in comments?  Some things call for extended treatment, best expressed in two or more paragraphs.  If you allow hundreds of words, should you not allow multiple paragraphs for them?

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Sol, here's an example of how the highlight-capture problem works: http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u394/njGreybeard/BadTextSelection%20-InlineComments_zpsirozbblg.png

I tried to capture everything from "In this city" to and through "price of his bones."  The capture was extended to the beginning of the paragraph, and to the space after 'bone.'.  Whether the problem lies in Windows, IE, or your web page, it prevents me from writing the comment I want on the text to which the comment appertains.

Maybe the surest solution would be to allow comments to overlap.  That would complicate both the capture and selection mechanism, but (especially with X-line format) I can see solutions.

This is a regular source of frustration to me as a reviewer.  Nor can it help the writer reviewed that I have to explain in the comment that the comment applies to text other than than highlighted.

Postscript:  The problem occurs even if I only extend the capture to the end of the paragraph.  I have to stop it after the penultimate word, whereup on the capture is extended to the last word--but not to the period ending the sentence.

This is a recurring pain in tender places.

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dagnee wrote:

... IT'S A PAIN IN THE ASS WHEN I AM ON MY KINDLE AND HAVE TO WAIT AS IF I AM USING DAIL UP ONLY TO GET A TIMED OUT MESSAGE. I USE MY KINDLE A LOT.

Can you try it with different carriers?  Are you using public WiFi or an access point from a carrier wired/fibered to your home or workplace?  Every clue you can gather is valuable.

Network problems in general are a PitA, especially because few computer systems are designed to help you find where the network problem is--and most networks hide rather than helping.  Good network diagnosticians earn the beaucoup bucks.

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No.  I read the piece in full before I comment.  Otherwise I'm commenting without knowing the work or chapter in full.  I don't want to call anything out until I'm immersed in the author's voice.  I want to be able to recognize foreshadowing.  I want to place comments that fit the whole work.

And sometimes I want to speak first about how I'm having trouble with a character's voice throughout, or about continuity from previous chapters, or about the limits of my expertise.  These and many other comments are best placed up front, not on the first word of the text.

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(1,528 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

In the next few days, I plan to catch up on a passel of reviews and do some badly needed fixes on early chapters.

After that, I have two big things to work on: Erevain's chapters, which are changing quite a bit, and the long-story arc, which you won't see immediately.  Both Merran and Jamen will get some time studying with Kirsey too: Merran because she can use it and Jamen ... well, Kirsey will find some latent talents there.  But there's a lot to do on the way.

I still have to finish the head-amp in the hope of selling the spare turntable, I've got two computers to get running again, and the other work will be never-ending.