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bottom line
n
1.  (Commerce) the last line of a financial statement that shows the net profit or loss of a company or organization
2. the final outcome of a process, discussion, etc
3. proclaims an ultimatum
4. the most important or fundamental aspect of a situation
Cambridge English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © Cambridge Press Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003

WTF?

It started with;

How do you get to your 'bottom line’ ultimatum from that?

As you said;

Fair enough; the majority of the social minded writers from the old site have left. This is a different community, a different sprit and a different format. Times change and things move on. That is accepted.

This thread started with a few people reminiscing about the previous site...  until post number six when you jumped in with the following…

But hold on!!!  The thread speaks for itself and nobody actually mentioned or suggested anything whatsoever about making changes to the forum structure of the new site until you piped up out of nowhere with the comment; “I think it would be a mistake to return the focus of this site back to a centralized forum”

And with that random and out of context 'troll' comment people get played as you sow the seed for the entire ensuing debacle that you vociferously complain about.

Weird. Like one of those arsonist firemen who start the fires they love to hate to fight.

Your game is up. You state "This is not a social site..." Within a social discussion that you can't wait get involved in. But true to form you prove unable to discuss, because your opinion has to dominate and provoke confrontation. According to your MO, the next phase is for you to play the wounded party.

There is none so queer as folk.

Applying what you state is the main ‘purpose’ (objective) of this site within your first comment, to your second comment , then I hope you gather lots of feedback and it begins to have the proposed effect upon your writing.

Superhero Origins Competition Page

[Bug?] The status of the competition (on the contest overview page) on 18th Sept, says ‘Competition Open’ Whilst the deadline is specified elsewhere on the same page as 13th Sept.
Cheers!

Only a few cases and that over a number of years. With a wealth of community sprit, camaraderie  and laughs. The old tNBW was one of the friendliest, welcoming and vibrant writer communities to be found on the web anywhere at the time  -- in the face of that, why would you focus on a couple of little negative nibblets?  In terms of disruptive factors found in any Internet community or interactive site, the old tNBW suffered remarkably few incidents of trolls or disgruntled members.

In comparison the new site is devoid of character and I'm stunned at how few of the old site stalwarts have survived the transition.

Anti-social then?

Yes, I suppose you are correct, the new site is a place to post writing and pickup critique --the serious stuff. Not a place that is conducive for writers to hang out, chat, joke, jape, wind-down from the writing and be social. Obviously the old site was never meant to be like that either; I suppose it just happened along the way; a bi-product.

I'm not complaining BTW, it is what it is; a vast functional improvement, more clinical in its objective. A product that the customer is welcome take or leave upon their own volition.

Wow. you should buy stuff from me. For I am indeed the Certified King of all you don't know and all my products are solid gold and packed with protein (no trans fat, MSG or sugar - honest). Oh, yeah and I was at Woodstock, so you can add my experience of that to the value of my product.

You did have some great stuff there! You had some great funny stuff there too. Remember the old ‘Nonsense Café’ Forum with your 'that's when the fight started' and those old writers-word-games and stuff?

http://old.thenextbigwriter.com/forum/v … .php?id=33

Maybe I’m missing something via my unfamiliarity with, and a failure to navigate this, the new tNBW site’s forums, but to me it feels like the new site is a little formal, stiff and devoid of interactive fun stuff compared to the previous.

Hi Sol

On the old site there was no 'group containers'.It seems that I CAN re-publish my old-site published works to the 'thenextbigwriter BASIC group' on this site; but if I want to re-publish it to the 'thenextbigwriter Premium group' then I am required to pay points again in order to do so. Does the 'No one should have to pay double points' statement only apply to the re-publishing of pre-published work to the Basic Group?

Cheers!

The suspension of disbelief? The degree of which the quality of the story telling induces, being the X-factor.

If our characters are believable, then they live and anything is possible when the quality of writing supports those characters.
I read the Ken Follet’s the century trilogy, which is a serious investment in terms of time and effort. Over the course of the 20th century it follows a handful of families from different nations. Somehow family members are all interwoven in all of the major historic events of the era. The coincidence factor is completely off the scale; billion to one odds over and again. And yet it is an extremely successful series of novels and a decent read (if I say so myself).

Once we believe, we’ll believe anything. (Les Misérables, Moby Dick? Try the Old Testament of the King James Bible for the wildest and most irrational plots within any literature).

On the other hand I’ve read works with a totally plausible plot/storyline that I’ve put down part way though because I’ve lost my belief or never believed from the off. A wooden character, a cardboard cut-out character will do that for me as quick as you like.

Yes, yes.... I totally agree with your disagreement... and this is where I know I'm never going to be a writer, because I always seem to fail to convey what I mean.

Irrespective of however the situation really is or whatever is the reality or actual fact of the matter; I (me personally) feel like a fraud and that is what blocks my confidence within my own writing.

It is like someone with acrophobia, a height or risk of falling may be minimal, intangible or imperceptible to the average person but the vertigo, the sensations of spinning and dizziness, the fear that the sufferer feels are real and unstoppable even though the situation is imperceptible and the ailment inconceivable to the vast majority of the non-suffering population.

I’m not saying that ‘this is the way it actually is;’ I’m saying ‘I know it is irrational, but this is the way it is for me’.

I fully understand his concerns (I understood the first time you stated this and can see the direct link between writing music, lyrics, fiction and poems -- they all follow the same creative process in terms of invention and composition).

I've been put off creating fictional stories for the same reasons your husband has been put off writing music. I read an awful lot and when I write, even though I've put a lot of conscious effort into making it original, I still feel fraudulent because in essence, everything has been done before. There are only a certain amount of words and phrases and there is not a story that is not like another 10 or 2,000 in one way or another.

The trick is (of course) not to worry about it. But even knowing that, some of us are ruled by a self-conscious pedantic attitude (even if it is a subconscious influence).

Yesterday I started to write an entry for the Superhero competition. It is way out of my natural genre scope and I thought that unfamiliar ground would provide an exercise in making my writing fresh (i.e. if I don’t read the genre then I'd be less likely to fall into the ‘common genre cliché mode’ that can occur when authors write a type or class of story). What I forget is that genre fan readers actually expect the platitude of the common formula – often which is the hook or attraction for them).
   
Anyway, I read back what I’d written and although I thought it an original plot and prose, as I wrote, I was mortified to notice similarities to other works (written and film) that must have surreptitiously influenced my train of thought as I created the story. When read objectively, my work seemed to me like a borrowed and rehashed ‘same-old’ churned out story.

I can see where you husband is coming from.