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Back to the subject of the thread....
Although I was somewhat flippant within my first post, it turns out that I was actually very near the truth. Within a binder I found this quote from an old author of note, Jane Austen.
Jane Austen wrote: I like to maintain a high ratio of female characters within my writing. I feel this provides me with far more scope for my characters to be irrational, illogical and emotionally flawed. You can have them distracted from key aspects of the plot by; say a new petticoat or an impending visit to the haberdashery shop. There is the opportunity for humourist sub-plots where they’ll get lost by reading a parchment map upside-down or baffled by (or fumbling with) technological devices like a spinning-wheel or circular saw. The image of a female character running in her bustle is also great imagery as is their inability to invent anything or park the horse without gross inefficiency and episodic behaviour.
corra wrote:Dill Carver wrote:I was being a complete arse. It used to be my permanent role ...
I don't think something can "used to be" your permanent role. You're either a permanent arse or you're half-arsed. I've always believed you to be half-arsed.
See, now you are the arse. Baton passed and all that...
Elisheva Free wrote:Sorry. I'm a very literal person.
-Elisheva
s'alright -Elisheva, you’re okay. Mighty fine.
I was being a complete arse. It used to be my permanent role upon the previous iteration of this site.
I haven’t been around in a long while and was just looking for a pulse; waving the red rag. I knew that I’d invoke a few pilgrims and an innocent or two, but I was fishing; seeing if I couldn’t raise one of my old hard-bitten tNBW lady friends to smack me down verbally.
I suppose they’ve all passed away by now. For they were all very old with shrivelled hearts and other peoples hair and teeth; and yet I loved them dearly.
'Vern the Wise', site transition survivor; he’s heard it all and seen it all before. Several times.
At least nothing changes on good old tNBW! Where literary and literally are as ever, indistinguishable.
Elisheva Free wrote: I actually work on computer systems on yachts
Are your employer’s mad? Everyone knows that it means awful bad luck to have a woman on a boat!
There isn’t even an accurate alarm term coined for a female falling overboard!
And computers on yachts; are you sure? They obviously can’t afford a proper means of propulsion; you'd think they’d splash out on an engine before they blow their cash on a PlayStation.
Voodoo_Magic wrote:Hi everyone,
....I'm wondering if you all had some tips on dialogue.
I can outline stories pretty well, but when it comes to actually writing for people I tend to have issues at times. Are there any tricks/websites to visit that you can think of to send my way? Thanks!
~VM
Read and read some more. Read the classics and paperback best-sellers within your genre of interest. Take note of your favourite sections as and when you encounter them (i.e. the dialogue that works well/flows well within whatever you are reading). Understand how the dialogue is constructed within the narrative. Emulate that style of composition within your own writing.
Elisheva Free wrote:. I am literally the only female in my department (Technical Support)...
That'd be handy for blokes tea and coffee breaks. Do you know your male colleagues by their names or do you identify them as 'milk, no sugar' and 'black with two please.'
Elisheva Free wrote:I do believe I am a decent driver...
Of course you do. Most women believe they a good drivers (or singers, dancers, or cooks etc.) but as we know, belief is a substitute for fact (here I'd cite religion as an example, any one them).
Elisheva Free wrote:That's not to say that I don't yell at my boyfriend every time he leaves the toilet seat up, but hey! The stereotypes have to start somewhere.
Do you think you could break out of your stereotypical conditioning and consider for once just how annoying and inconsiderate it is when women persistently leave the toilet-seat down?
Norm d'Plume wrote:I have binders full of women to choose from.
How did you get the women into the binders? Hole-punch or staples through the head? If you'd pickled them in jars, they'd be easier to browse.
Anyway, well done you! It keeps them off the roads.
njc wrote:Dill Carver wrote: .... My wife once exclaimed (of the car) that 'if it were invented by a woman then it'd be a far better machine."
I remember we contemplated that for a while and then burst out laughing as we simultaneously realised that no woman has ever invented anything.
Not true. The invention of the circular saw is attributed to a Shaker woman who was spinning and watching the wheel when she looked out at the men sawing wood. I'm sure she wasn't the one to build it, though..
Only in the USA though. In Europe the circular saw was invented by a Greek called Archimedes (287-212 BC). It was reintroduced and used extensively throughout the Roman Empire between 27 BC and 264 AD. In China variants of the circular saw have been around since pre-history, but the one preserved in the Chongqing Science and Technology Museum dates from 97 BC
Janet Taylor-Perry wrote:You've received some good advice.
Thanks!
Mariana Reuter wrote:I have to admit that I'm hopeless parking my car. I fit in the stereotype.
Kiss,
Gacela
I fear it is more of a gender based affliction than stereotypical trait Mariana. My wife once exclaimed (of the car) that 'if it were invented by a woman then it'd be a far better machine."
I remember we contemplated that for a while and then burst out laughing as we simultaneously realised that no woman has ever invented anything.
dagnee wrote:Dill Carver wrote:Personally I like to maintain a high ratio of female characters within my writing. I feel this gives the writer far more scope within the plot for characters to be irrational, illogical and emotionally flawed. You can have them distracted from key aspects of the plot by; say a new handbag or damage to their hair-do. There is the opportunity for humourist sub-plots where they’ll get lost by reading a map upside-down or baffled by (or fumbling with) technological devices. The image of a female character running in high-heeled shoes is also great imagery as is the inability to park a car without gross inefficiency and episodic behaviour.
I hope this was meant to be sarcastic.
We all live in hope nowadays.
Oh, and thanks for proving my point.
Janet Taylor-Perry wrote:What does it mean as a writer when you're proofing and start to cry over a scene you wrote?
I should think it differs dependant upon the circumstance. If it were memoir or non-fiction then I'd think it could be natural. If it is over a fictional scene they'd just invented then I'd say that the writer is emotionally dysfunctional
Personally I like to maintain a high ratio of female characters within my writing. I feel this gives the writer far more scope within the plot for characters to be irrational, illogical and emotionally flawed. You can have them distracted from key aspects of the plot by; say a new handbag or damage to their hair-do. There is the opportunity for humourist sub-plots where they’ll get lost by reading a map upside-down or baffled by (or fumbling with) technological devices. The image of a female character running in high-heeled shoes is also great imagery as is the inability to park a car without gross inefficiency and episodic behaviour.
Is there still a link back to the old TNBW forums? There was, but I've lost it. If the old forum archive still exists and anyone has that link and can post it; I'd appreciate it.
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