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I wouldn't bother with trolls infesting our forums. It's happens everywhere and, for some obscure reason, there's people who enjoy trolling forums (or, should I say fora?).

My suggestion is that we simply ignore them and their account is closed, as it has already been case this this Dallas Wright, whomever he'd been. On the other hand, good discussions sometimes move away from the original topic and it doesn't mean they're bad discussions.

If you people don't mind, I'd like to go back to the place where the discussion was diverted by a troll and keep on with it on friendly terms.

Sadly, Herbert's son prose, and even plots, is/are quite inferior to Herbert's own, meaning his sequels and prequels pay poor homage to Herbert's work. Even the way he explains the events around the Butlerian Jihad is kinda poor, if you ask me.

On the POV subject, I'm a fan of head-hopping, even though I don't use it myself because, currently, YA readers don't expect it and don't like it (the current fashion, in 20 years it might be otherwise). One of my favourite authors, Alexandre Dumas, used to head-hop a lot and his stories wouldn't have worked had he done otherwise. Head-hopping in a short story, within 2500 words, it's not impossible but requires a great amount of dexterity, which I think anybody around here may achieve. It's just matter of trial and error.

Kiss,

Gacela

PS. Sol, would it be possible for you to remove Dallas Wright's posts from this thread so people may continue the discussion without them annoying us?

Kiss again,

Gacela

I'm in the same dilemma. My editor, sadly, passed away last May and my novels is halfway being edited. Any recommendation? Any editor with whom any of you have worked before?

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Gacela

I think that publishing a story, as any other business, requires some investment and there's a return of such investment. In the pharmaceutical industry where I work, a 10-year ROI is seen as a successful one, but I'm not sure about writing. I mean, how much time is it consider fair for a writer to wait until a published book (either fiction or non-fiction) turns from a box-office flop into, I wouldn't say a best-seller, but at least into profit?  No clue. 

Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I've read that, even if you've been published by a prestige publishing house, they do little marketing and advertising for you book, unless you're Stephen King or somebody from his lot. That's the reason why so many published--and even successful--authors have their own websites, and do the signing think, and do talks, and all the stuff. So, even if you've been published, you need to develop marketing skills otherwise it's likely your book will never be widely known--or even known.

Meaning being a published writer is not an easy task. It's a lot of stuff beyond the obvious--writing and editing the book itself. Unless you do it for the sake or art and don't care about doing any business. I have a cousin who is supposed to be a painter. Fortunately for her, she has a rich husband, so she doesn't do it for living. She's an abstract painter and, if you ask me, her paintings are crap. Her last great idea was to paint an abstract canvas she cut in 100 smaller pieces that she framed and put on sale on the internet. Each piece is numbered so, if she ever gets famous and you buy one of the 100 framed pieces, you can claim you own Number 74 of Beyond the Eternity (true name of the whole canvas). Each small piece looks like something finger-painted by a 3-yo kid (she gave me one for free and I hang it on my bedroom's wall each time she comes to visit my family). So, she clearly does it for the sake of art, because she invested not only on the canvas, the paintings and the brushes, but also on framing the 100 cut pieces and has make no profit yet--so far she's sold like 5 or 6 and given away for free like 20.

So, if somebody here is like my cousig, then there no prob. Just write the story, publish it on TNBW, get some feedback, and keep on. Or publish it on one of those sites where amateurs publish their stories  for every body to read them and like them, and you're done. But if you are serious, then money needs to be invested, at least, on editing and marketing (assuming the publisher invests on the cover artwork and on making it available as a printed book and en e-book).

Me? I want to see to see my work seriously published (as it was the case with Amber Eyes) even if don't make large sales, but I DO want to improve as a writer until I write a best seller.

Kiss,

Gacela

Rachel:

I was wondering whether you're some kind of clairvoyant because you were narrating what happened to me just to weeks ago. LOL!

By the way, while I enjoyed Wonder Woman a lot (first DC movie I actually enjoyed; the previous ones were crap, Batman vs. Superman on top of the list with a three honourable mentions), what I disliked is that it took place in WWI. Everybody knows Wonder Woman started in WWII! Why is DC always shitting on themselves?

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Gacela

I must be through a run of bad luck because, in the past 12 months, I dated two different chaps and in both cases they turned to be not the wrong one, but the very wrong one. Both relationships started too fast--which was partially my fault for allowing it--and ended up badly. I'm no longer a teen so I ought to learn how engage in a positive relationship.

I also need to kill a ghost from the past, and maybe then it'll be easier for me to start something positive. But sometimes we grab these ghosts like Titanic survivors grabbing a lifesaver in the sea. Only we're floating in freezing water and the lifesaver is not a good idea unless we let it go and swim like the devil were after us, until we reach the Carpathia.

Sigh!

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Gacela.

Congratulations Jack. Well deserved!

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Gacela

Suin:

Did you finally sent your story to an agent? Don't forget to update us.

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Gacela

Great job, Rachel, congrats! It seems everybody in our group is publishing.

Are you self-publishing or did you sell it?

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Gacela.

Congratulations!!!! This is a great achievement.

Kiss,

Gacela

No, no, no!  I didn't mean that. I but it's my fault you got it wrong because I had the idea in my mind, but never explained it. I'm just like my own character Melissa, LOL!

I was thinking of "throwing in occasional words or phrases of actual Italian" just like Dan Brown did, but avoiding Dan Brown's mistakes by asking a native speaker to translate them. That was what I did for Lucy Crowe whose character was a Latino living in the USA. Hence, he spoke words in Spanish from time to time.

Kiss,

Gacela