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(17 replies, posted in Close friends)

Dear Suin:

I was afraid you had abandoned the site! I tried to upload this review and your works were blocked because (the message said) you haven’t renewed your membership.

Okay, hands on:

1.    First of all: you have a story to tell. Moreover, you have great characters who drive their own stories. If you ask me, you’re a better character-driven writer than a plot-driven writer. It means that you write better stories when your protagonists shape the events rather than the other way around.

Take “Being Fifteen” as an example. Alicia drives the story. She is always in control and everything taking places happens because of her, because she set the events in motion. In “The Best Laid Plans”, Sarah is not in control. She marries Hugh because Hugh and her mother press her to do so. She can’t prevent Hugh from kidnapping her. She can’t escape afterwards. She has no opportunity to decide whether to get pregnant or not (even though she did decide not to have an abortion—the only time she was in control). In a nutshell: events drive her.

The second part of “Being Fifteen” you were writing was also character driven, for Alicia was, once again, in control of whatever was taking place around her: her actions, the reactions of those around her (even many grown-ups’ reactions), etc.

Conclusion: if I were you, I’d concentrate on character-driven stories rather than on plot-driven stories.

2.    Let’s focus on The Best Laid Plans. At first, I found Sarah annoying because she allowed others to decide for herself (Hugh, Claire, her mom, etc). This is because I prefer strong female characters, the same reason why I found Dafne do Maurier’s second Mrs. De Winters annoying. Don’t pay attention to me. Sarah is a perfect character and it fits your story perfectly well.

3.    Now, let’s go to the part where Gacela suggests some changes. Your story runs amazingly well until Sarah is kidnapped. Before that point, the story is strongly character driven. Not necessarily main-character-driven for other people are shaping Sarah’s life (Hugh manipulating her; her mother, fascinated by Hugh and eager to see her married rather than a single mother; Alicia, causing Jack and Claire to break looking forward to Jack approaching Sarah, etc.).

That Sarah is not driving her life, but that other characters are, is totally okay and in line with a character-driven story. That said, there are chapters where Sarah is in control of her own life (the part where Sarah struggles deciding whether to travel to the UK to have an abortion and finally misses the ferry, is superb!).

The weak part of your story (in my humble opinion) is after Hugh kidnaps her. After that point, the story is plot driven. Hugh’s personality is no longer important, but the fact he’s some kind of drug lord or mafia bloke (it doesn’t maters which), keeping her locked up. Sarah only suffers and suffers and is incapable of doing anything. Her parents hire a PI, a character who enters, and leaves, the stage without changing the plot a bit (you can well write him off and nobody will miss him, not even Sarah’s parents). When Sarah finally escapes, it’s because she’s aided by a thug who has no reason to do so, because she has one of those rare moments of inspiration when she decides for herself, because Hugh chickens out like he had never done before, and because Jack decides to walk in front of her building (in search of her, let’s grant you that point) in the right moment, and event with a  probability lower than the moon falling from sky.

After that point, like a falling house of cards, a number of events take place and you ask your reviewers whether the last chapter is easy or not. My opinion: of course it’s easy, because it lacks is background. Everything is solved only because you wanted a happy ending. You concentrated only in Sarah missing for years and forgot that Alicia’s and Claire’s lives cannot change only because many years have passed. Clues of what the future would be should have been hinted before, way before.

4.    I bet you’re thinking I haven’t given you any suggestion yet. Well, here it goes: rewrite everything after Sarah is kidnapped. Moreover, forget about the kidnapping and about Hugh and concentrate on the other characters. Make them evolve from that day when Jack was with Sarah and she little by little started to “return”, and on, and show the reader that you can, masterfully, make your characters drive your plot.

5.    I’ve been largely thinking about the title: “The Best Laid Plans”. At first, I thought you were referring to Sarah’s plans about being a ballerina, but then I decided you meant much more. Like in Les Mis, the title refers to more than one character (Jean Val Jean is not the only miserable one in Les Mis, but every character is a miserable one in their own way). The best laid plans were not only Sarah’s: each character had perfectly well laid plans that went wrong—and please don’t think I’m meaning their stories didn’t have a happy ending, but that nothing ended up as originally planned. Sarah quit ballet. Claire never married Jack. In fact, Claire discovered she was lesbian when it seemed she was the straightest girl in the world and would end up a housewife. Alicia, the rebel, the rock star, was the one who ended up enjoying being a housewife. Alicia married Declan and not Matt. Et cetera.
Certainly, the best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry. Your title refers to all your characters, not only to Sarah.

6.    Remember I told I had this feeling you should narrate Alicia’s story along with Sarah’s? Now I’m sure you should narrate Sarah’s, Alicia’s, Claire’s, and Jack’s stories. You’re wonderful for that. You’re gifted! You can write each one’s story, showing how each of them shapes each one’s future, until the best laid plans go awry. If I were you, I’d change Sarah’s story. Dump Hugh after he runs away the first time. It doesn’t matter whether he’s a drug lord or anything else. By the time he abandons Sarah the first time, his literary function has been fulfilled (if you wish, by the end of the story, Sarah may read on the newspaper Hugh was found dead, possibly killed by thugs belonging to a rival drug cartel—it’s not important). After that point, you can write about Jack and Sarah threading their lives until (if you like the damsel-in-distress story) Jack finally helps Sarah to overcome her situation. In parallel, you can write about Alicia and her discovering that, in the end, being a rock star does not satisfy her. Also, about Claire’s journey towards discovering her own sexuality.

Alternatively, if you don’t wanna make this story soooo very long, write separate stories featuring Sarah and Claire, but don’t just dump the ending of such stories in Sarah’s final chapter as you did. It doesn’t work. What you need to do, even  if you don’t want to incorporate Claire’s and Alicia’s stories into this one, is to hint, through every-day life events and details, what is gonna happen in the future. You have a golden opportunity to hint Claire is lesbian after Jack and she break. Also, you have to introduce Grainne into Claire’s life, not just drop her like you did in the last chapter. Why Grainne? Why not some other girl/woman in the world? I would answer because Alicia, a mutual friend, introduced them, maybe right after Claire and Jack broke because, Alicia, perceptive as she has always been, read between lines and guessed Claire and Grainne would, in the end, match (even if, at first, Claire marries a bloke).

Elaborate on Sarah, on her discovering her own children, on Jack helping her to come back and overcome the trauma of Hugh’s disappearance, until they discover they are a match. Pepper it with news on Alicia and Claire, and how their lives are progressing. Mention Declan. Mention Claire’s marriage dissolving. Mention Grainne. Write about lives that match what you previously hinted, and then give the reader the happily ever after ending that is a plausible outcome of the previous events.

7.    If I were you, I wouldn’t worry about the word count. If your story is a good one, any agent/publisher will take it, despite an abnormal word count. On the contrary, if you squeeze a good story into a particular word count only for the sake of it, you may end up with a good story turned into a bad one that no agent will take, despite it fitting the usual word count for this literary genre. Unless you wanna write very commercial stuff, the kind people read while commuting in the underground and discard in a rubbish bin once finished.

8.    Once again, you have wonderful characters and you’ve mastered character-driven stories like few people in this site have. My advice is that you stick to that and rewrite this story changing the plot-driven (and thus weak, IMO) parts to stronger character-driven parts. I’d also recommend you to write Claire’s and Alicia’s stories—maybe separate books but all of them part of the trilogy “The Best Laid Plans”.

Kiss,

Gacela

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(16 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

I've just voted.
Good luck!
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Gacela

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(36 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

I wonder why anybody would be willing to supress a punctuation mark that makes a statement clearer. Somebody above said the Oxford comma is distracting.

Distracting????

My goodness, it's not like it's wearing a clown suit and playing a fiddle, on a roof! It's only a comma, within a list of items, and the comma is clearly signalling that the last two items are part of the list individually rather than collectively.

Whether the latter is many times evident by itself and thus the Oxford comma can be avoided, is a different kettle of fish. Because I'm a beginner, I prefer to be on the safe side, so I always use it. It hasn't ever distracted me so much I totally forgot what the story was about.

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Gacela

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(8 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Same here. Bill's method is the only one available, but you shouldn't have problems republishing any chapter. If you do, talk to Sol.

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Gacela

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(7 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

It's okay that the dialogues are in English because it's supposed the characters are speaking Italian. It's like when you read a translation of the Three Musketeers. They live in France and are supposed to be speaking French, but you're reading it in English. But no reader complains or expects the dialogues in French! So, don't worry about that part.

As for using certain words (like the police titles) in the native language, it certainly gives the story a local flavor that many readers enjoy. So, go for it. To prevent the readers from not understating the meanings, I've read stories where the foreign words are translated the first time they appear. For example:

"John knew he had to talk to an Agente Scelto--a senior constable."

You only mention it once and rely on the readers memory who now know the translation. No biggie.

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Gacela

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(19 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

That's a very interesting  proposal.  While I have  a backup of everything I have posted here,  I don't have a backup of the comments I've received  from readers.   I'm not aware that there's a way  to actually export the comment  to your PC. Sol,    are you there?
 
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Gacela

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(19 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Bet the hacker finally found some weakness in the site's code. It's amazing how much time those  blokes invest in activities as unproductive as hacking a site like TNBW. It's sad they don't use that time in productive activities, but children will always be children.

Kiss,
Gacela

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(14 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Congratulations, it's an outstanding job.

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Gacela.

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Thanks, Marilyn. Quite interesting. It's amazing that words like catastrophe, that are part of our everyday vocabulary, were invented by the Bard. Cool.

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Gacela

Sol:
How is that done?
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Gacela

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(16 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Congratulations Denise. We're so very proud of you!!!!!

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Gacela

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(63 replies, posted in Close friends)

Suin:

Yes, I'm posting new chapters of the same story: Where Heaven and Hell Meet. I sent the whole manuscript to my editor and she returned it with gazillions of observations, which is what an editor stands for.

One of her main observations was that the story lacks of more chapters where Patrick, Melissa, and Helga/Athens share time together. This chapters are needed because Helga, a selfish, spoiled, and crafty brat, needs to grow and come of age (the objective of the plot) thanks to Melissa's and Patrick's friendship. She was right, it was a hole in the plot because Helga had no reason to care for any of them. By turning into their friend and learning to appreciate them, and finding them valuable, Helga should find a reason to stay with them and, finally, to go and save Melissa. Athens is an spoiled and selfish brat too. She was a popular girl who cared for nobody, but she'll sacrifice her life so Helga may save Melissa and Patrick. both girls will grow thanks to their friendship.

However, the only way to highlight that friendship, and to show how Athens/Helga bond with M and P, is through coexistence (if this the right word in English). I mean through spending time together and discovering each other.

My editor also suggested to reduce the amount of chapters about the Brotherhood, concealing them as a last-minute surprise.

So, I'm writing new chapters and re-writing some old ones. Also, I'm removing many related to the Brotherhood and Mr. Buchanan.

The bad news is my editor passed away recently (it was very sad, she was 38). Si now I need a new editor. If somebody knows one, I'll appreciate if you can send me his/her contact info.

Kiss,

Gacela

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(4 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!

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Gacela

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(2 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Thanks, Temple. The author is really advertising a coupla of her books, but the comments are interesting regardless. What's the book you've got? The one advertised? Would you recommend it?

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Gacela

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(4 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Try yWriter6, it's quite useful and it's 100% for free (you may decide to make a contribution, but it's not mandatory to get the software).

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Gacela

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(78 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

I think this is the right time to consider this thread closed.

Suin made a useful contribution by pointing at a professional editor who, on his website and for free, analyses the first 1000 words of stories uploaded by writers, highlighting weaknesses—or strengths—agents and publishers care about.

Suin laid a tool—and an editor—that can be used—consulted and even hired—by those TNBW writers who prefer to do so.

Thank you very much Suin. As a community of writers, we appreciate all input that help us to improve and grow, providing points of view that broaden our horizons.

Rah, rah, sis-boom-bah!

Kiss,
Gacela

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(78 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Charles_F_Bell wrote:
Mariana Reuter wrote:

Charles:

People like Suin are likely to be discouraged from making open suggestions and sharing their discoveries within the worldwide web if their post are to be derided.

There was no derision of Suin explicit or implicit in:

Yes, and thank you for that, but is there any objective standard by which one can judge his opinions having any value?

For certainly I respect her as a writer.

There was deserved sarcasm towards you and your cheerleading for partisan purpose precisely because of the way you write and behave in public forum.

No more questions, your Honour. I'm sure I've made my point in front of the jury about the witness's uncalled and unnecessary aggressiveness. In view of his past record and continuous offenses, the Crown requests the maximum sentence.

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Lady Mariana Reuter

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(78 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Charles:

No one opted to comment because most of the TNBW authors know your comments are usually destructive and loaded with heavy and uncalled sarcasm (like the Rah! Rah! thing you did).

Recently, writers have complained about the lack of forum threads and open discussion. One of the main reasons are Charles F. Bell's expected, aggressive critique. People like Suin are likely to be discouraged from making open suggestions and sharing their discoveries within the worldwide web if their post are to be derided.

While I agree at first you tried to open a discussion, your well-earned reputation didn't encourage further comments. Proof of it was your Rah! Rah! upon a comment thanking Suin for sharing the website. What was it's purpose? Show how stupid the rest of us are? Like Dagny said, do you think we're that naïve? That amateur?

As a TNBW member, and with all due respect, I strongly suggest that you refrain from participating in forum discussions unless you plan to avoid all sarcasm and behave in a respectful manner.

Kiss,

Gacela

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Suin:

This is excellent, Suin! Thanks for sharing. I read several of his comments on other people's work and they make a lot of sense. I also read his comments on your own work. I'm impressed! His opinion on your opening chapter was high. Congrats!

I've always thought that one is an excellent story worth being published.

Kiss,

Gacela

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(260 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Blessing Okebugwu wrote:

Hello, good morning please I need to get my book published for an ongoing competition, please I need your help to read my book Smashed by the axe



Hi, Blessing,  welcome to the site!

My recommendation is that you start reviewing other writer's work. In that way,they will reciprocate.

Start in chapter 1 of any story you review for many writers in this site don't appreciate reviewers jumping in the middle of a story. It makes sense because reviewers jumping in the middle of a story lack a lot of information about the plot and the characters' development, important for providing value-adding comments.

Kiss,

Gacela

Quite interest indeed.

Thanks for sharing!

Kiss,

Gacela

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For the Merriam Webster dictionary, climbing is something that can be done either up or down. What seems to define a "climbing" operation is the usage of hands for grasping/clutching/holding.

Definition of climb
climbed; climbing; climbs
intransitive verb

2 a : to go upward or raise oneself especially by grasping or clutching with the hands climbed aboard the train

3 : to go about or down usually by grasping or holding with the hands climb down the ladder

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Gacela

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JeffM wrote:

By the way, you're writing fiction, correct?
Fiction writers often write:  love kills, hatred kills, greed kills, pride kills - etc.
In the same metaphorical vein, poverty can kill.

Heck, the more I think about it, the more I think you should play it up metaphorically.

"The hand of poverty choked my parents."

"Poverty strangled my parents to death."

I love these quotes!!!!

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Gacela

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jack the knife wrote:

I'm surprised Temple wants it spelled out. One writes, "Poverty claimed another victim," and the reader can make the interpretation -  helped, perhaps, by the description of the victim when discovered, but not necessary, since we should already have a context in the story.

I agree. To explain too much is an over-killing, even though if you're a purist, nobody actually dies from poverty. IMHO, being too explicit, unless required by the plot (because, for example, you as an author want to point that somebody specifically starved to death), assumes that either the reader needs too many explanations because they don't understand (AKA the reader is stupid), or the reader is gonna frown because the author is not purist enough (I don't think that might happen with "die of poverty")

My conclusion: "die of poverty" is explicit enough and any reader understands the death, in the end, came because of one of the many problems poverty represents: diseases, starvation, lack of proper shelter, etc...

"Die from the effects of poverty" is a bit more proper, but I still find it snob and assuming the reader either needs clarification or is too smarty-pants.

Kiss,

Gacela

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(4 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Basic)

Sol:

You need to check those vulnerabilities again. The hacker is having a great time exposing them. Dunno why, or exactly how they profit from attacking us, but they're certainly back.

Kiss,

Gacela