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Welcome to the site!!!

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I've just checked it. It's cool. Nice article about the lead poisoning.

Congrats.

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Gacela

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How about: Thinking it a prank, she and her husband Zeke Katz, struggling hedge fund manager, decide to ignore the message.

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Gacela

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Well... it depends whether any topic is being discussed.

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CJ:

The problem is there are no other chapters where Oxford and Buchanan interact, except for a very short moment the day Buchanan arrives at the school first time ever. At that point, there is evident tension between the two of them. Fast forward to the very last chapter. They meet again there, like Obi Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader. They've turned into enemies and it seems it happened so because it is convenient for the plot. From my standpoint, it looked quite far fetched. So, I decided to write this short chapter where they clash again.

Also, as I noted before, I think it's not right that Oxford exists for the sake of Helga. Why should she have fallen in love with him if he's only her appendix with no personality at all? So, this short chapters shows part of Oxford's personality: he holds his ground in front an abusive boss, he is devoted to his work as a responsible person should, and he shows a strong personality. Helga fell in love of all those qualities. 

Kiss,

Gacela

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Suin:

Thanks for your observations. I agree with you. The chapter is not needed at all to advance the plot.

However, I wanted to show Oxford out of context, that is, away from Helga. I was wondering why she fell in love with him. Then, I recalled why I fell in love with somebody years ago. It was because of his personality. He had a strong one. He used to stand in front of people who tried to abuse not only him but other people too. On top of his charm (he had a lot, just like your Hugh) he always stood his ground.

The only purpose of this chapter was to show Oxford standing his ground in front of Buchanan. By this time, Oxford is fed up with Buchanan, who behaves like a bully, is tyrannic and disrespectful. Oxford makes Buchanan wait because he feels it not proper to summon him like Oxford were Buchanan's servant. In the office, Oxford's attitude is challenging. A young man showing an older one who is a bully he's not afraid of him.

Having said the above, do you think the chapter works?

Kiss,

Gacela

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Norm d'Plume wrote:

Can someone please tell me if the paragraph below is showing or telling. It's written from the POV of someone outside the scene who is watching this on video. I was just told this is telling.

Soon, weapons fire targeted the Marines from three sides as Classiarii forced their way through other hatches. The Marines were hopelessly outnumbered. In response, Colonel Montford stood up and walked purposefully into the heaviest stream of oncoming fire, taking out one Imperial after another until they blew off his left arm at the shoulder. Undaunted, the heavily muscled man continued firing his crisper with one hand, yelling wildly as he moved relentlessly forward, his eyes bulging from their sockets. Blood gushed from his wound. The Marines rose and followed his lead, causing the enemy to fall back in fear. Montford’s troops chased them down the passageways as the colonel dropped dead to the deck.

Thanks
Dirk

Here are my two cents:

I will start with the terminology. Above, Vern stated anything on a written page is “told” as opposed to anything on a movie screen that is “shown”. This is absolutely true. Thus, we writers cannot show anything unless our books include pictures, drawings, or photographs. Everything we write is a narration, therefore, everything is “tell”.

The above said, the word “show” is used in the expression “show don’t tell” looking forward to highlighting a writing style currently in fashion, not necessarily the act of “showing” as defined by a dictionary. This writing style is nowadays being forested based on the assumption the readers prefer it—an arguable assumption that can be discussed at length in another thread.

According to Patricia C. Wrede’s (author of The Enchanted Forest Chronicles) blog (2015)  “ …’show’ generally means ‘dramatize.’” Furthermore, “‘Telling the reader’ means giving the reader the conclusion they would draw, without giving them any of the actions or thoughts or descriptions that would lead them to that conclusion. That is, rather than saying that George is both mean and a miser, the writer ‘shows’ him complaining about his restaurant meal in order to avoid leaving a tip, turning the heat down on a bitterly cold day, kicking a puppy, etc.”

From my standpoint, and according to Wrede’s definitions, which I consider valid, the paragraph Norm d´Plume is quoting is a combination o “show” and “tell” elements:

“Soon, weapons fire targeted the Marines from three sides as Classiarii forced their way through other hatches”, is SHOW, because the narration is being dramatized.

“The Marines were hopelessly outnumbered.” This is telling. No elements are provided to draw the same conclusion (e.g., amount of soldiers on each side).

“In response,” This is telling, because the reader has no means to reach the conclusion Montford is acting “in response of”.

“Colonel Montford stood up and walked purposefully into the heaviest stream of oncoming fire, taking out one Imperial after another until they blew off his left arm at the shoulder.” This is showing, even though “walked purposefully” can be considered telling. There are ways to dramatize “walked purposefully”, like “strode stomping his feet”, “his gaze fixed on the enemy”, “shoving away the people on his way”, which would help the reader to conclude that he “walked purposefully”.

There’s no pure “show” and there’s no pure “tell”, even though you can have a higher number of either element in a paragraph/scene/chapter/novel leading to conclude that it is a “show” or “tell” story.

My personal conclusion is that Norm d’OPlume’s paragraph is “show”. It would be “tell” if it would be written in the following way:

“Outnumbered, the marines were attacked from all sides. In response, Montford retaliated, even though he lost an arm. The marines followed him and the enemy withdrew.”

Because there’s no dramatization, “tell” is shorter than “show”. IMO, nobody writes a 100% show or 100% tell story, even though, nowadays, stories tend to have a higher “show” component than, let’s say, 50 years ago. The reason why there are no “pure” show or tell stories is because both writing styles have their right moment in a story. E.g., “Two months passed” is tell. As a writer, you are not interested in narrating in detail what happened during two boring months, and neither is the reader. You fast-forward the story from February to April because the next event relevant to the story cannot take place until the winter is gone and the weather has warmed up a bit.

Whether you show or tell depends on the circumstances. You can tell “John is angry” or show that he is angry because you narrate he’s kicking the furniture, yelling, cursing, and throwing objects out of the window. You can tell Jane blushed, or show she felt her face hot and, when she saw herself in the mirror, saw her cheeks red (in the latter case, the reader will think, “Oh, she blushed!”).

“Show” also involves description. “A nice cottage,” is telling. Describing it was a little, perfectly well painted cottage in the middle of a forest, that it had a chimney that heated it to a comfortable temperature (you can show even more by indicating it was 23°C), that the furniture and the linens were in good condition, and that it was clean and few disturbing sounds could be heard in the night , is showing. The reader will then conclude: “Oh! What a nice cottage”. Whether there’s enough room in your story to describe everything, is another pair of shoes. Too much description may be boring. Too little may hinder the reader’s ability to properly picture the settings.

IMO, the reason why so many how-to books and writing gurus insist in “show vs. tell” is because, as I started in my first paragraphs, there’s the impression XXI century readers prefer the “show” writing style, or, stories with a higher number of dramatized scenes and richer description. Whether this is true or not, is debatable. Time will tell if the “show” style is really superior. In past times, too much dramatization or too much description was considered info dump and discouraged.  Now it’s the other way around. A matter of taste.

Kiss,

Gacela


Reference:
Patricia C. Wreder. (2012, July 15). Show vs. Tell [Blog post]. Retrieved from http://blog.apastyle.org/apastyle/2016/ … style.html

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I'd rather prefer a to-do list. It may even have a section where to indicate the chapter number and a link to go directly to that chapter's edition. Also, it would be fantastic it you could link one or more comments to the to-do list.

I imagine a to-do like this one: check SolN (drop down box where I selected SolN's name) comments  to chapter 4 (drop-down box to select the chapter and drop-down box to select the comment).

Once a reviewer/chapter/comment is selected from the drop-down box, it must work as a hyperlink.

Of course, the to-do reminder mustn't restrict the user to selecting reviewer's/chapters/comments. The above must be a fast way to add to-do items linking them to chapters and comments, but there must be a free-text are where one can write whatever one wants.

Dunno if the above is possible, but it's my wish list.

Kiss,

Gacela

My only concern about writing using different POV's is the voice--I am myself  struggling with this issue in the novel I'm writing now. If the voices aren't different, then the value added is little. Okay, you gain something because, for example, you narrate a scene from the POV of the only character present. Hadn't you do it that way, the reader wouldn't have learnt about that particular scene. That said, the voices must be different lest the POV-character personality be lost. If the different POVs "sound" similar, the final taste is not that the story was narrated from the perspective of different characters, but that it's the same author "faking" the different characters. While that is actually the case, it must seem it's otherwise.

Kiss,

Gacela

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I was one of the ones who suggested the contest's topic, and I don't think it's too challenging. I'm already working on my submission.

I agree that a full locked-room mystery might require more than 5000 words, but I'm pretty sure something interesting can be written within the required limit. Sherlock Holmes short-story average word count is 8230 words (source http://www.christianpeccei.com/holmes/). Okay, it's 3230 more words than the contest, but, from my standpoint, it means a decent thing can be done with only 5000. If the average were, for example, 23000, then I'd be worried about writing a decent thing using only 5000.

I think the actual challenge is writing the locked-room mystery. As Vern said, we're an imaginative bunch. Let's see how imaginative we really are.

Kiss,

Gacela

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Hope the League of Blondes doesn't sue me.

In the middle of the night, two blondes come half drunk out of a pub. Suddenly, blonde A grabs blonde B's arm.

Blonde A: "Hey, look out! You almost step on shit."
Blonde B: "It's not shit. It's blackberry jam."

Blonde A stoops, dips a finger into the suspicious product, and takes the finger to her mouth. "Yuk! No. It's shit. It's salty."
Blonde B dips the product too and tries it. "You're drunk! It's sweet. It's blackberry jam. There even are blackberries pieces. What do you think are the little rounded things mixed in it, genius?"
Blonde A dips the thing again and takes the finger to her mouth again, giving an argument why she thinks it's shit. Blonde B does the same, arguing it's blackberry jam. They continue doing so until they eat all of it.

"Do you know something?" Blonde B says still licking her finger. "I think you're right. It's shit. Yuk!"
Blonde A. "I told you. It's good we didn't step on it."

It it three chapters narrating the battle? I can't recall how many. I checked in my book (Walter Scot Complete Works) and found chapter XXVIII talked about the battle, but I didn't check how many chapters the battle spans.

Kiss,

Gacela

Sure, I'll check it!

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They say a Ph.D. in philosophy is only good for bartending. They might be right.

You are in Second Life? I should have guessed, because your image clearly is a SL avatar.  I'm in SL too, even though I'm not often on line. But if you are there, I'd love to attend your philosophy lectures. Let’s contact!

In Snow Crash, there is a virtual world much like SL, called the Metaverse. The story takes place in the real world, and only some parts of it in the Metaverse. However, it is implied tons of people hang in the Metaverse. Snow Crash characters dive in the Metaverse deeper than people dive in SL because they use googles, meaning they can only see what's going on there, divorcing from RL for a while. You cannot teletransport in the Metaverse, you need to use a mean of transportation such as a car, a bike, or use the monorail. There are clubs, and pubs, and you can have your own house, or rent one. Pretty much like SL.

I strongly recommend Snow Crash to those fond of cyberpunk or, at least, fond of technology and gadgets. The story takes place in a near future (no specific year is mentioned). Technology is much like the one we have now: laptops, mobiles, tablets, etc. iPhones are not mentioned, because they haven't been invented when the story was written and the author never envisioned smart phones. There’s other technology that doesn’t exists, but that might, like scanners capable of learning your underwear brand, how much change you’re carrying in your pockets, and the like.

The society is quite different, though, and this is the very interesting part of the story. According to Snow Crash, central governments had yielded their power to corporations (an ever-present element in cyberpunk literature). Governments had even yielded territory. California is no longer part of the USA. Instead, there are franchises, extension of land where people live and work, property of quasi-national entities--for practical purposes, independent countries. Like "Mr. Lee's Greater Hong Kong". Some are as small as a cul-de-sac. Some are as wide as half Los Angeles. Highways are private property. Once you leave the highway and enter a franchise, you must pass through migration and customs. Security is outsourced, so the police are outsourcing companies hired by the quasi-national entities (e.g. "The Enforcers", “The Meds”). If you're arrested, you are taken to a jail that is franchise, and trialed at a judicial franchise.

The story is about Hiro Protagonist,  an unemployed hacker, and his friend, 15 year-old Y.T., who works as a courier. Since it takes hours to drive L.A. permanently jammed highways, and the author never thought of email, the only way to make sure mail, and anything else, is delivered fast within Los Angeles, is hiring a courier. The couriers, usually teenagers, go everywhere on their skateboards, without worrying about traffic.

The story involves a crazy millionaire a la Donald Trump who tries to rule the world, and Hiro Protagonist and Y.T. saving the day, aided by Los Angeles Italian Mafia, another franchise dedicated, among other dirty businesses, to delivering pizza in less than 30 minutes or it is free. In the latter case, the mafia godfather, Uncle Enzo himself, would call you to apologise for your late pizza delivery.

I've already read about 2/3 of Snow Crash and I strongly recommend it. The plot flows a bit slowly, and it is because the rich world building. The story is heavily sarcastic and a deep critique to our modern society. I'm sure that, particularty you Rachel, will enjoy this story a lot.

Kiss,

Gacela

The page depends on the edition, but check around chapter XXVIII. Those chapters narrate the battle.

In terms of explaining how a battle works, and the different activities each person takes care of, as well as how each character perceives the battle itself, I'd suggest you to check Ivanhoe's narration of the siege of the Castle of Torquilstone.

Kiss,

Gacela

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Dear Suin:

You’re right. I write the way you do. I have first a general idea of the story, mainly how it starts and how it ends, and more or less a blurry image of what’s going on in between, and then I start writing. I fine-tune the story once the first draft is complete, filling gaps and holes, and maybe even modifying already-written chapters, accommodating them to any change made. So, the “Where Heaven and Hell Meet” first draft you read is still subject of changes and fine tuning.

My characters don’t talk to me either, as Rhiannon’s characters talk to her. Typically, I craft the story as I commute. It’s a 30-minute drive from home to my work (and another 30 minutes back) when I’m in Mexico and a 40-45 minute drive when I’m in New Jersey, so there’s plenty of time to imagine—I also listen to audiobooks while commuting, currently I’m listening Snow Crash.

I asked because, back in November, you told us you were kinda stuck with The Best Laid Plans, and that was the reason you were devoting your time to Being Fifteen second part, and to The Girl by the Canal (which I still need to read). So, I wondered whether you had a general plan of The Best Laid Plans or whether you were inventing the story as you wrote it. Mainly, I was curious, because I always wonder about other author’s creative process.

Kiss,

Gacela

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This is a thread to comment The Best Laid Plans by Suin

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You own a bookstore Norm???

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Look, you can get a decent cover artwork for $40, and top masterpiece for $200.

While some authors on TNBW think a good author doesn't need an editor, and an excellent one not even a proofreader, I hired both for $400 (a 60000 words story, they charge by the word).

If you don't know how to format the ebook, you need to hire somebody. I did it myself, so I don't know the exact cost, but it's such a simple task it can't be over $50. Say, $100 to be on the safe side. Formating a print-on-demand book is as easy as.

And that's pretty much it. You're ready to self-publish. The marketing effort is another story. Advertising can be expensive, but I don't think the difference between less than $1000 and $10000 or $5200 goes to marketing. There's a separate thread in TNBW with marketing tricks and their cost, but nothing justifies the high prices mentioned in the article.

Generally speaking,based on what I've learnt from other sources, the article states true facts about the development of the self-publishing industry. However, it seems to me the author was paid to introduce the names of a coupla "agencies" in the article. Had he done enough research, he'd have found one of the reasons self-publishing has gone viral is because how affordable it is. That the author missed such an important point proves to me he/she wanted to advertise the said "agencies".

In the past, when only brick-and-mortar bookstores exists, printing, and distributing, physical books was so expensive self-publishing was a luxury few authors could afford. Nowadays, Kindle self-publishing is soooo very affordable anybody can--whether anybody can be successful is a matter of a separate thread.  I can't imagine a serious blogger missing such a fact .

Kiss,

Gacela

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Because they charge way over the actual cost of the services. The article mentions Girl Friday Productions charging from $10000 to $30000. My goodness! That's enough to start your own editorial house. She Writes Press charges $5200 plus 20% to 40% of the profit. It they have already charged $5200, why taking 20%  to 40% of the profit? They have invested nothing; they are not entitled to further profit.

Amazon takes 30% of the profit (the author's royalties are 70%), because self publishing with them is for free and they are entitled to charge for the platform's maintenance. But why should a company that has already charge you for the publishing process receive part of your money?

Kiss

Gacela

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I'd like to highlight that those companies mentioned in the article that charge thousands for the different self-publishing services, are scammers. I've already self published and the amount I invested is not even close to what the article says those companies charge. Okay, my marketing effort has been little, but it's still to be seen what is those companies marketing proposal and if it's worth the stratospheric price they're charging.

Kiss,

Gacela

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And it's always the same person derailing the threads!

Dear Sheriff:

I might know a bit of Spanish basically because Mum's Mexican, and I currently commute between Puebla (about 100km away from Mexico City) and Raritan (NJ) every two weeks. Dad's French, which means I also speak French. I write it very bad because we moved out of Paris when I was 4. So, anytime you wish to add dialogue in Spanish to any story, or a short speech like in this case, feel free to contact me. I'll be more than happy to translate it properly. E.g., I corrected all the Spanish dialogue in Lucy Crowe's (TBW c.e. jones) novel "Maypops in September".

If I'm allowed some publicity, I freelance professional English-Spanish translation, if you ever need to translate anything from English into acceptable Spanish, even your grand-kids homework  smile

Kiss,

Gacela