Fabulous! Congratulations, Jack! YAY!!
377 2017-10-26 22:38:57
Re: You Only Love Twice is now published! (17 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Wow! Congratulations, Bill! Well-deserved reward!
Now, it's off to the next one!!
Cheers,
MJ
378 2017-10-19 00:29:10
Re: Dialogue tags to be avoided (53 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Hi Vern!
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Within the original post, Marilyn quotes the publisher as saying "... but successful writers of quality fiction have learned to resist the temptation" [to use dialogue tags to do more than differentiate between speakers.] I am guessing people are responding to that when mentioning "examples of 'great' writers who have broken the 'rules'" within this thread.
Yes, Corra, probably that's the problem. This is ONE publisher sending me ONE list of words THEY don't want to see in a manuscript. It can also apply to anybody NOT sending them a manuscript IF you are sending a manuscript to someone else.
If you're self-publishing, this list will mean nothing to you because you don't go by 'rules' if you don't want to, so why bother going back through and taking out all your chuckles, smiles, giggles, barks, and snorts? LOL!
I threw this out because I thought somebody somewhere out there in cyberspace could use it. None of this is set in stone unless you are submitting to MCP. And even then, they allow exceptions. I do know Randall has a book published by them, and I know Bill has submitted to them. Hopefully if anyone else is sending them something, this list will be helpful.
379 2017-10-18 19:43:48
Re: Dialogue tags to be avoided (53 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
If you self-publish, I presume you can break any rule you want to. I shared the list given by my publisher because that's what they go by. Not my rules. Theirs. They made a couple of changes in my manuscript that I questioned, and we got into a great discussion similar to the thread here. By no means do they have the last say in anything except what they put on their press and spend their money marketing. The part I liked about their comment to me was 'if you can physically smile a sentence out of your mouth, then, by all means, use 'she smiled' as your tag if you want to. If you can physically laugh, grin, interrupt, intone, joke, or grimace a sentence out of your mouth, or any of the other words listed out of your mouth, then, by all means, you are special, and you should be allowed to use them.'
Not everyone will agree with them. Of that I am sure.
The other thing discussed here is the use of adverbs. I like adverbs until they overpower what I'm reading. Then it's time to stop. I think of an adverb as a three-ft. wall someone constructs across my jogging path. They're short enough to go over, but after I jump over four or five of them, I find a new jogging track. Some writers can come up with the most god-awful adverbs ever created: She stared at me DARKLY. She was OBLIGINGLY difficult. She BLESSEDLY fell asleep. She was so mad she spit FUMEDLY. She HARRIEDLY collected the eggs. She CONSTIPATEDLY sat on the toilet reading. She OBSERVEDLY watched. I don't know how the rest of you feel, but too much of an annoying thing will make me read something else. Just my opinion — what's yours?
380 2017-10-17 11:34:12
Re: Dialogue tags to be avoided (53 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
They are not saying don't use the words on that list in your book. Just don't use them in a tagline. If you use something other than 'said,' then ask yourself 'how can each word smile out of my mouth?' Or how can each word chide out of my mouth, volunteer out of my mouth... etc. Most of them cannot be done physically. As Moonshine told me, there are always exceptions, and there are places where nothing else you use can hammer that one important thought any better than a tagline.
381 2017-10-17 02:01:48
Re: Dialogue tags to be avoided (53 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
To this list I would add "paused" which was debated as a dialogue tag in another recent thread. At least most of these could actually be shown by the spoken word whereas "paused" and the like definitely can't be. I must say I used many of these and similar ones in the past, but I find only one I still have in my completed novel -- I'll probably keep it for now just for old times sake; no one wants to be perfect. Hopefully that puts me on the right track. Take care. Vern
That sounds like a good one to me, Vern. I don't think anyone can pause a sentence out of their mouth. Cause if they pause, then I assume there are no words, no dialogue.
382 2017-10-17 00:59:40
Topic: Dialogue tags to be avoided (53 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Some great notes I have received from Moonshine Cove Publishing Co., the ones who are publishing my western novel, Two Roads to Sunday. We had a discussion of which dialogue tags were unacceptable, and I asked them to send me the list they go by. This is the info they sent. Most of you probably already know this and learned it in Writing 101, but occasionally we do slip up. Or at least I do! If anyone wants the list and info, I am sharing it for you to keep a copy of:
Use a dialogue tag only when necessary, and when in doubt as to which tag to use, simply say “said.” Only in hack fiction has a person ever been able to bark, spit or smile a sentence. It’s a physical impossibility. Instead of using such body language terms as tags, we suggest making the dialogue itself convey that meaning, so that no propping up is needed, i.e. showing instead of telling. In the end, just use said.
Dialogue tags seem simple and utilitarian, but they actually have hidden traps to ensnare the unwary. Most of the problems stem from trying to make dialogue tags do more than the sole purpose they serve — helping readers keep straight which character is speaking. Trying to make tags do double duty, such as telling readers something about the character’s state of mind or tone of voice using a tag, or using them to tell about an action you've already shown, seems to hold some sort of special attraction to novel writers, but successful writers of quality fiction have learned to resist the temptation.
Here's a list to avoid.
accused — "You did it," she accused him.
acknowledged — "Yes, I heard you," he acknowledged her.
acquiesced — "You are exactly right," he acquiesced, though he didn't feel it in his heart.
added — "I'll show you when we get there," he added.
admitted — "Yes, I like puppies better than kittens," she admitted.
admonished — "Don't get out of that chair," he admonished her.
advised — "The weather forecast is for snow tomorrow," he advised.
affirmed — "We received three shipments," she affirmed.
agreed — "That does sound like a good deal," she agreed.
amended — "That's what I really meant to say," she amended.
announced — "Jeff and I are expecting a baby," she announced to the room.
apologized — "I'm truly sorry I forgot your birthday," he apologized.
argued — "But it's not the same," she argued.
assured — "I will take good care of it," he assured her.
barked — "And don't come back," he barked as she backed out the driveway.
began — "I don't know how to tell you this," she began.
begged — "Please just say you will keep this to yourself," she begged him.
bellowed — "You forgot your mittens," Mother bellowed down the street.
blurted — "I'm not who you think I am," he blurted out when she entered the room.
boasted — "We have two new cars," he boasted.
bragged — "Her scores were the highest in the class," she bragged.
breathed — "I can do this," she breathed out loud.
bristled — "I don't care if she comes back or not," he bristled.
cackled — "That's the funniest thing I've ever heard," she cackled.
cautioned — "Remember the roads are slippery," she cautioned.
challenged — "You can do this, I know you can," he challenged her.
chastised — "You should never have said that," he chastised her.
chided — "It's getting colder by the minute," she chided.
chimed — "I want to go, too," she chimed.
chirped — "I am so happy I could scream," she chirped.
choked — "He died yesterday," she choked.
chuckled — "I saw how you slid down the hill," he chuckled.
clarified — "That's not what I meant," he clarified.
coaxed — "Come on, kiddo, just one more step," he coaxed.
commanded — "Knock before you enter," he commanded.
commented — "Your drawings are perfect," she commented.
complained — "This is the hottest day of the year," she complained.
conceded — "I give up," she conceded.
confessed — "I really don't like hot pepper," she confessed.
confided — "He's got more upstairs in the dresser drawer," she confided.
confirmed — "You're headed in the right direction," she confirmed.
contributed — "There's nobody else like him," she contributed.
countered — "Then I will go in the opposite direction," she countered.
concluded — "All is well that ends well," he concluded.
confirmed — "That's the correct number," she confirmed.
cooed — "You are the cutest baby I've ever seen," she cooed.
corrected — "It's the next door down," he corrected.
countered — "I'll give you this one for that one," he countered.
cracked — "You're a nasty man," she cracked.
croaked — "I don't feel like listening to this trash," she croaked.
declared — "It's the best I've ever seen," she declared.
deduced,
defended,
demanded,
demurred,
directed,
disagreed,
discouraged,
dismissed,
divulged,
drawled,
echoed,
encouraged,
enthused,
exclaimed,
exaggerated,
exalted,
explained,
finished,
forced,
fretted,
fumed,
gasped,
giggled,
gloated,
graveled,
greeted,
grimaced,
grinned,
groaned,
growled,
grumbled,
grunted,
gushed,
hesitated,
hinted,
hissed,
howled,
inserted,
insisted,
instructed,
interceded,
interjected,
interrupted,
intervened,
intoned,
introduced,
intruded,
jabbed,
joked,
kidded,
lamented,
laughed,
lectured,
lied,
maneuvered,
moaned
mocked,
mused,
noticed,
observed,
offered,
ordered,
persisted,
piped,
pleaded,
pled,
pondered,
pouted,
pressed,
pried,
probed,
proclaimed,
promised,
prompted,
proposed,
protested,
purred,
questioned,
quipped,
rambled,
ranted,
rasped,
reassured,
recovered,
relented,
remarked,
remembered,
reminded,
repeated,
reprimanded,
requested,
retorted,
roared,
scoffed,
scolded,
seethed,
shrieked,
shushed,
sighed,
slurred,
smiled,
snapped,
snarled,
sneered,
snorted,
sobbed,
soothed,
spat,
spouted,
sputtered,
squealed,
squalled,
stalled,
stammered,
stumbled,
suggested,
supplied,
surmised,
sympathized,
taunted,
teased,
threatened,
thundered,
tossed,
tried,
urged,
ventured,
volunteered,
wailed,
warned,
wheezed,
whimpered,
whined
Hope somebody can find this list helpful.
MJ
383 2017-10-13 01:44:07
Topic: Podcast of one of my short stories (6 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I got great news today from Chicken Soup for the Soul. I write for them frequently, and today received this:
We are excited to let you know your story, Elmo Takes a Nosedive, which appeared in our Angels and Miracles book, will be featured on the Chicken Soup for the Soul podcast.
A new podcast will be available each weekday and they can be downloaded for free the same way that you get other podcasts.
There is a theme for each day of the week. Your story will be shared on 10/16/17 and will continue to be available on the app once it airs.
If you are new to podcasts you may be surprised to learn you already have a podcast button on your smartphone. You can listen to podcasts on your phone, your computer, or your iPad or other tablet.
To find the Chicken Soup for the Soul podcast, search within iTunes or your particular podcast app, or click here for podcast. If you need a little technical assistance or detailed instructions on how to download and listen to the podcast, then please click here for easy instructions.
The podcasts are about six or seven minutes long Monday-Thursday and they provide entertaining stories as well as great advice and easy-to-implement tips to improve your life. On Fridays, Amy Newmark will ask one of our to join her for a longer podcast—about fifteen minutes. If you have a large social media presence, or your own podcast, and you’d like to be considered as a guest for her Friday podcast, please let us know by e-mail webmaster@chickensoupforthesoul.com
We hope you will listen and enjoy! We would appreciate it if you would spread the word by passing this e-mail on to your friends and family so we can build an audience.
Thanks for being part of the Chicken Soup for the Soul family. You know how much we love your stories.
Happy Listening!
D'ette Corona, VP, Associate Publisher
Chicken Soup for the Soul
384 2017-10-03 02:10:36
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Apple Jacks -- milked up
385 2017-10-03 01:17:57
Re: Can you receive too much support? (10 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Marilyn Johnson wrote:I love getting reviews, but I hate somebody trying to rewrite every word I've written. Been there, don't like it. Don't get me wrong - a suggestion here and there is great and appreciated. But to highlight every single paragraph is ridiculous unless I have asked them to do it in advance."
A nice try MJ, but surely you meant...
I enjoy receiving reviews, but am less than pleased when somebody edits my words into their own. I've experienced it and it irks me. Please don't misunderstand - a few suggestions are greatly appreciated, but to focus intensely upon every paragraph is certainly not called for... unless we have entered in a collaborative development understanding.
Marilyn Johnson wrote:Last time it happened to me, I returned the review with this:...
..."I certainly don't appreciate all the time you spent grooming my Âne du Cotentin so it sounds like your Baudet du Poitou instead of mine. I am sure it was time-consuming but totally not necessary. Due to the fact that both you and I are here, on this site called The NextBigDonkeySanctuary, probably shows that neither of us has an Andalusian or an Âne grand noir du Berry in the stable...Nay, I say.
You've got to quit reading my mind, Dill! How didja know??
386 2017-10-02 22:10:21
Re: Can you receive too much support? (10 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I love getting reviews, but I hate somebody trying to rewrite every word I've written. Been there, don't like it. Don't get me wrong - a suggestion here and there is great and appreciated. But to highlight every single paragraph is ridiculous unless I have asked them to do it in advance.
Last time it happened to me, I returned the review with this: "I appreciate all the time you spent rewriting my chapter so it sounds like your voice instead of mine. I am sure it was time-consuming but totally not necessary. Due to the fact that both you and I are here, on this site called The Next Big Writer, probably shows that neither of us has a best-selling novel on the shelves of Barnes & Noble. I would like that to happen one day, but until such time, I will continue to write in my voice and expect you will do the same. My one suggestion to you would be that if my voice perturbs you that much, I think you would be better off to find something else to read. Thanks for stopping by."
387 2017-10-02 02:23:46
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Chicken and dumplings
388 2017-09-19 22:34:25
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
What in the dickens?
389 2017-09-14 12:49:09
Re: (Site Support) Blocking members, how does it work? (29 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I totally agree with Corra about this being an uncomfortable loophole. Short of pulling the heckler through the screen and boxing his/her ears in the form of vigilante justice, it appears to be something Sol will have to address.
I just realized through this thread I could go into the posts of the ones I have blocked and leave all manner of retaliatory remarks on their work, but they can't reciprocate. I can even change some of the comments I've made on previous exchanged reviews. hmmm... I wouldn't, however, do that... well, maybe...nah! Not worth the effort since we're all adults here, but maybe just one sharp jab... nah! Not my style, but ... thanks, Dill. You don't know how long I've wanted to ...
JK
MJ
390 2017-09-14 00:14:24
Re: (Site Support) Blocking members, how does it work? (29 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I don't mind people blocking me, it just seems a little skew-whiff if I can't return the favour and block them from accessing my junk in an even-handed manner.
Make your 'stuff' inactive until Sol can eliminate the problem or let you know how to block whatever's causing you grief. That way no one csn have access until the problem is resolved, then you can go back and make them visible. Just a suggestion.
Cheers,
MJ
391 2017-09-13 20:55:48
Re: (Site Support) Blocking members, how does it work? (29 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
So, if a member blocks me, it would appear that I can no longer bring up their profile in order to block them in return. If they have blocked me first, can I not block them likewise
Dill, I just checked on a particular person I have blocked, and I can still go to their profile and their posts and I can do an inline or a regular review on their stuff. They just can't on mine, apparently, so I think it doesn't work both ways. I am not sure how you go about blocking them if you can't see that person's profile. Maybe a question for Sol.
392 2017-09-11 01:59:32
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Sexiest
393 2017-09-11 00:16:14
Re: Say the first word that comes to mind... (1,634 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Baptist
394 2017-09-10 23:03:02
Re: Good job! (35 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Something I've noticed -- something I've been guilty of -- telling someone they've done a "Good job!", or patting them on the back with "Good work!", especially after you've torn their work to shreds, is patronizing. I for one won't be using either phrase again.
I know where you're coming from, but just because I point out things that are repeated throughout the story doesn't mean the writer didn't do a good job with everything else. I reviewed one the other day where quotation marks were not used throughout, and I marked them all. In addition, spelling errors in a few places, and a few more things, but I loved the story. The writer did a good job with holding my interest and it flowed well, in addition to having great characters.
I don't feel it's patronizing when you're offering constructive criticism and the storyline itself was good. Just think how much better their next one will be since you've offered your help.
MJ
395 2017-09-08 00:18:03
Re: Posting Stories and feedback (10 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Hi Norm, thanks for posting this: "I just edit over the existing online version of the chapter and carry on" I didn't realize you could do this. I will try it.
Pat
The good thing about making the changes as early as possible is you don't keep getting the same errors pointed out by the ones who come in later. With me, I post a chapter, make changes suggested by our great reviewers on here, but then go ahead and post the next chapter when it's ready. You will find your rhythm and what works best for you.
Glad to have you on board, Pat. Welcome again. Good luck with your story.
MJ
396 2017-08-31 00:30:00
Re: Thanks to TNBW - Getting ready to publish (19 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
Congrats! How awesome! Your cover is very nice, and I will check out those folks.
Wishing you the best of luck with it.
MJ
397 2017-08-29 15:28:26
Re: Describing facial expressions (13 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
he 'has a face, lovingly fashioned by God, from a potato.'
OMG! Love the subtle humor in that! Good one, Dill!
398 2017-08-28 19:06:32
Re: New! (5 replies, posted in Memoirs & Self-Discovery)
Matt, we're waiting for something from you, but so far I haven't seen anything come through with your name on it. Go ahead and take the plunge!
MJ
399 2017-08-28 12:13:03
Re: WANTED: grist for the next contest mill. (47 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
I vote for a horror story, too! To be completed by Halloween, the winner to be announced on October 31.
I like that idea, J P. Maybe relax the genre a little to include ghost story and/or horror since Halloween is approaching. I think if we make the genre reach out further, we may have more entries. I look forward to reading some great stories.
400 2017-08-27 12:51:38
Re: WANTED: grist for the next contest mill. (47 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)
(Lord knows our President would do well to stick to the teleprompter, right?)
Or learn he doesn't have to turn his whole body when he looks to the one on the other side.
I like your idea, too, John! 'Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth ...'