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It's been too long for me to remember what happens when you join.  But I see so many new members coming onboard, posting their hard work, and receiving no reviews.  That's discouraging.  The main culprit for no reviews is their post doesn't pay points.  Though I personally don't need points because I have more than I will ever use, some of us do need them.  No need wasting a half hour doing an in-line review if you don't get rewarded for doing so.

Is there anything a newbie receives that lets them know how the point system works and why it's important to post in a group that pays points?

I'd like to get away from the groups anyway.  Not sure how effective they are.

Just my opinion.

To all new members:  Before you post your first piece, please join a group that pays points for reviews.  Like the Premium Group.  It's free to join.  Then on your posting page, make sure to check that group.

Most members on here review for points.  They need those points to post their own work. 

It's not too late if you've already posted something and didn't join a group that pays points.  Join the group, then repost.

You will get help with your writing this way.

MJ

YEAR:  2017
SEASON:  Winter
MONTH:  OCTOBER
STATE:  Georgia
COUNTY:  Macon
LOCATION DETAILS:  To be kept confidential
NEAREST ROAD:  Hwy. 96
OBSERVATION REPORTED BY TWO MEN:  We were cooking a hog mid-day on a smoker, and across the road in a big field about 300 yards away, there was a huge hairy creature standing beside a white oak and looking at us.  I grabbed my phone and took a picture, and then it disappeared.  My father-in-law and I walked up to examine the area after it was gone.  There were tracks, and judging by a mark on the tree, the creature was estimated at 8 feet tall.  The owner of the property says he sees it all the time.  He has nicknamed the creature ‘Sol.’

vern wrote:

with the absence of Sol for several months to date,

Has anybody heard from Sol?  Is he sick?  Out of the country?  Too busy for us?  Expired?  Exhausted? 

Why don't we have a contest to see who can write the best story of what has happened to Sol.  Is he on an exotic vacation?  Did he join the army and is fighting in some foreign country?  Did he run away from home?  Why?  Did he come down with a tropical disease?  Is he climbing the Matterhorn?  Spying on Russia? 

200 words.  Where is Sol? 

Grand prize:  Recognition and the thrill of victory.  Or maybe by that time Sol will have come back to life and let us know who the winner is.  Else we will have to decide for ourselves.

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Santa

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vern wrote:

Here (just bringing back up for MJ)

You are indeed a gentleman and a scholar.  Thanks for finding it for me! 

***


Sewing

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vern wrote:

It comes down to "There are no concrete rules" for creative writing other than to use common sense. If something can be shown/explained/etc. without the use of a word which is often repetitious with most writers, then use a little "creativity" to rearrange the sentence into another way of saying the same thing (perhaps better) without making it shout out, "Look at me; I didn't use was here." And the debate goes on.... Good thing IS, we have a new addition to the country. Alabama just voted to rejoin the union. Take care. Vern

I agree about the concrete rules, and common sense should prevail.  So many better words can take the place of WAS, and I try to mix it up so I don't use 'to be' words frequently.  If my sentence will sound unnatural without one of those buggars, I use it and go on about my business.  Ain't got time for sich nonsense when the creative brain sets out to work.  Write it while the writing's good.

And for the record, nah, let's don't let Alabama back in until after the 2020 election and see if all of them can turn true-blue.

vern wrote:

I think we're swimming in quicksand. Take care. Vern

I hope not.  But you may be right,

Suin, I agree it has gotten very quiet around here lately.  What has happened??  Anyone???  Are we on automatic pilot? 

The strongest start contests have always been wonderful for building new members.  People join because they want to enter the contest, and many of them stick around.  I would love to see some new faces come in.  The few new ones we've gotten recently don't stick around for long for some reason.  Maybe a new contest with a deadline 4 or 5 months out would help. 

We need new blood.  In 2008 when I posted Dance in the Rain, on the first chapter I received 72 reviews.  72.  The book had 30 chapters, and I got a total of 964 reviews on it.  That's the kind of stuff that helps us build our writing skills because I received some excellent suggestions and ideas.  I learned from it.  Today, if a chapter I post gets 5 or 6 reviews, I feel fortunate.  It's discouraging to new writers when they post something and get 1 or 2 reviews.  I think the contests are the answer to building it back.

I also think a far-fetched contest won't really do it.  I vote for a simple one that anyone can enter.  Not a particular genre, but something like the strongest start. 

SOL ??? 

smile

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j p lundstrom wrote:

I guess the thing that bothers some people is the repeated use of the same verb over and over, when there are other perfectly good words, and often more precise, that a writer could use. In your passage above of 181 words,you used Was-6 times, I’m (a contraction of I am) twice, and Is—8 times for a total of 16. (16/181 = almost 9%)  So, 9% of your writing is the same word.

Think of it: if 9% of your writing were a word like spaghetti, or conundrum, or supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, people would say "Can't this guy think of another word to use?"

Color me flabbergasted!  J P, you astound me sometimes!  Love your answer. 

I need to go to my portfolio and start adding up be, am, is, are, was, were, been, being.  And maybe I'll grab all the other no-no words like appear, become, feel, grow, look, seem, remain, smell, sound, stay, taste, turn.  Gotta get myself a percentage! 

You make me laugh, J P!  smile

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"To be" verbs sound weak and wordy.  Example:  The books at the library ARE excellent.  The librarian WAS knowledgeable. The room WAS clean. The card file IS the best I have ever used. (25 words)  ***  Now take away the 'to be' words and replace with something like:  The library boasts of excellent books, a knowledgeable librarian, cleanliness, and the best card file I've ever used. (18 words).

Our friend WAS the driver of the car:  Our friend drove the car. 

Here's another example I found online:  The restaurant’s parking lot IS narrow. THERE ARE not very many parking spaces and those that ARE available
ARE too cramped.  Change to:  The restaurant suffers from a narrow parking lot with only a few cramped spaces.***  The new sentence took away 'to be' verbs in addition to 'there are' which slows down the reading process and makes the writing clunky and wordy.

Was falls into the 'to be' category.  Though grammatically a word, it comes off as weak.  Way too many good, strong verbs available. 

I'm guilty!  I admit it.  I use 'to be' much more than I should.  I'm going through the 12 steps myself.

Rachel (Rhiannon) Parsons wrote:

The logistics would need to be worked out, but there are writers here who have series, repeating characters, and that inspired me.  Best in cross-over.  Like you have your characters in some other writer's world, or vice versa? You know, like Kdot's characters in a Lieutenant Beaudry novel?

I think we're to the point now that whatever subject Sol chooses would work. 

Sol?????

SolN wrote:

Interesting ideas. I'm going to continue following this thread and we'll launch a new contest by the beginning of next week.

Sol, this was back in August.  Did I somehow miss the contest, or have you just not come up with a good one yet? 

I personally think it's a good way to draw in more writers to this site. 

Anybody else ready for a new contest????

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Norm d'Plume wrote:

Welcome. Here is a quote from a post my Marilyn Johnson that you may find useful: The one thing I would suggest is when you post your first chapter or story or poem, make sure to post it in a group that pays points to the reviewer, like the Premium group.  If you're not a member of it yet, may I suggest you join that one before you post.  You will get more reviewers if they get points for their review, which they will use to post their next piece.

Well, thank you, Norm!  I was surprised to see my name.  Nonetheless, new folks sometimes don't get the points idea.

Craig, will you be posting your children's book here on this site?  I look forward to reading it and maybe sharing ideas with you.

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Thanks for posting that, Memphis Trace.  Very nice reminder of what we have to be thankful for. 

I would add additional thoughts of my own:  I'm thankful we haven't been attacked with a nuclear bomb yet by North Korea because of Resident Trump's foolish mouth and inability to see the error of his public name-calling and childish tweets.  I am thankful the curtain is about to fall on his Residency in the White House, as well as the Trump Mafia who have taken over, including his daughter and son-in-law.  I am thankful there are still sane people in this country not willing to let this fool run rough-shod over us as were his intentions from the beginning.  I am thankful there are people who oppose the Republican tax cut, giving a person like myself an additional $800 (WOW!) of spending money per year, while giving Resident Trump an additional $25 billion per year. 

All in all, things could be worse.  Hopefully Mueller is about to wrap up his investigation and arrest the entire Trump clan, including Junior and his brother, Cadaver Boy. 

Fingers crossed, and wishing everyone here a blessed and happy Thanksgiving! 

MJ

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Fabulous!  Congratulations, Jack!  YAY!!

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Wow!  Congratulations, Bill!  Well-deserved reward! 
Now, it's off to the next one!!

Cheers,
MJ

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corra wrote:

Hi Vern! smile

Within the original post, Marilyn quotes the publisher as saying "... but successful writers of quality fiction have learned to resist the temptation" [to use dialogue tags to do more than differentiate between speakers.] I am guessing people are responding to that when mentioning "examples of 'great' writers who have broken the 'rules'" within this thread.

Yes, Corra, probably that's the problem.  This is ONE publisher sending me ONE list of words THEY don't want to see in a manuscript.  It can also apply to anybody NOT sending them a manuscript IF you are sending a manuscript to someone else. 

If you're self-publishing, this list will mean nothing to you because you don't go by 'rules' if you don't want to, so why bother going back through and taking out all your chuckles, smiles, giggles, barks, and snorts?  LOL! 

I threw this out because I thought somebody somewhere out there in cyberspace could use it.  None of this is set in stone unless you are submitting to MCP.  And even then, they allow exceptions.  I do know Randall has a book published by them, and I know Bill has submitted to them.  Hopefully if anyone else is sending them something, this list will be helpful.

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If you self-publish, I presume you can break any rule you want to.  I shared the list given by my publisher because that's what they go by.  Not my rules.  Theirs.  They made a couple of changes in my manuscript that I questioned, and we got into a great discussion similar to the thread here.  By no means do they have the last say in anything except what they put on their press and spend their money marketing.  The part I liked about their comment to me was 'if you can physically smile a sentence out of your mouth, then, by all means, use 'she smiled' as your tag if you want to.  If you can physically laugh, grin, interrupt, intone, joke, or grimace a sentence out of your mouth, or any of the other words listed out of your mouth, then, by all means, you are special, and you should be allowed to use them.' 

Not everyone will agree with them.  Of that I am sure. 

The other thing discussed here is the use of adverbs.  I like adverbs until they overpower what I'm reading.  Then it's time to stop.  I think of an adverb as a three-ft. wall someone constructs across my jogging path.  They're short enough to go over, but after I jump over four or five of them, I find a new jogging track.  Some writers can come up with the most god-awful adverbs ever created:  She stared at me DARKLY.  She was OBLIGINGLY difficult.  She BLESSEDLY fell asleep.  She was so mad she spit FUMEDLY.  She HARRIEDLY collected the eggs.  She CONSTIPATEDLY sat on the toilet reading.  She OBSERVEDLY watched.  I don't know how the rest of you feel, but too much of an annoying thing will make me read something else.  Just my opinion — what's yours?

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They are not saying don't use the words on that list in your book.  Just don't use them in a tagline.  If you use something other than 'said,' then ask yourself 'how can each word smile out of my mouth?'  Or how can each word chide out of my mouth, volunteer out of my mouth... etc.  Most of them cannot be done physically.  As Moonshine told me, there are always exceptions, and there are places where nothing else you use can hammer that one important thought any better than a tagline.

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vern wrote:

To this list I would add "paused" which was debated as a dialogue tag in another recent thread. At least most of these could actually be shown by the spoken word whereas "paused" and the like definitely can't be. I must say I used many of these and similar ones in the past, but I find only one I still have in my completed novel -- I'll probably keep it for now just for old times sake; no one wants to be perfect. Hopefully that puts me on the right track. Take care. Vern

That sounds like a good one to me, Vern.  I don't think anyone can pause a sentence out of their mouth.  Cause if they pause, then I assume there are no words, no dialogue.

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Some great notes I have received from Moonshine Cove Publishing Co., the ones who are publishing my western novel, Two Roads to Sunday.  We had a discussion of which dialogue tags were unacceptable, and I asked them to send me the list they go by.  This is the info they sent.  Most of you probably already know this and learned it in Writing 101, but occasionally we do slip up.  Or at least I do!  If anyone wants the list and info, I am sharing it for you to keep a copy of:

Use a dialogue tag only when necessary, and when in doubt as to which tag to use, simply say “said.”  Only in hack fiction has a person ever been able to bark, spit or smile a sentence. It’s a physical impossibility. Instead of using such body language terms as tags, we suggest making the dialogue itself convey that meaning, so that no propping up is needed, i.e. showing instead of telling. In the end, just use said.

Dialogue tags seem simple and utilitarian, but they actually have hidden traps to ensnare the unwary. Most of the problems stem from trying to make dialogue tags do more than the sole purpose they serve — helping readers keep straight which character is speaking. Trying to make tags do double duty, such as telling readers something about the character’s state of mind or tone of voice using a tag, or using them to tell about an action you've already shown, seems to hold some sort of special attraction to novel writers, but successful writers of quality fiction have learned to resist the temptation.
Here's a list to avoid.

accused  — "You did it," she accused him.
acknowledged — "Yes, I heard you," he acknowledged her.
acquiesced — "You are exactly right," he acquiesced, though he didn't feel it in his heart.
added  — "I'll show you when we get there," he added.
admitted — "Yes, I like puppies better than kittens," she admitted.
admonished — "Don't get out of that chair," he admonished her.
advised — "The weather forecast is for snow tomorrow," he advised.
affirmed — "We received three shipments," she affirmed.
agreed — "That does sound like a good deal," she agreed.
amended — "That's what I really meant to say," she amended.
announced — "Jeff and I are expecting a baby," she announced to the room.
apologized — "I'm truly sorry I forgot your birthday," he apologized.
argued —  "But it's not the same," she argued.
assured —  "I will take good care of it," he assured her.
barked —  "And don't come back," he barked as she backed out the driveway.
began — "I don't know how to tell you this," she began.
begged — "Please just say you will keep this to yourself," she begged him.
bellowed — "You forgot your mittens," Mother bellowed down the street.
blurted — "I'm not who you think I am," he blurted out when she entered the room.
boasted — "We have two new cars," he boasted.
bragged — "Her scores were the highest in the class," she bragged.
breathed — "I can do this," she breathed out loud.
bristled — "I don't care if she comes back or not," he bristled.
cackled — "That's the funniest thing I've ever heard," she cackled.
cautioned — "Remember the roads are slippery," she cautioned.
challenged — "You can do this, I know you can," he challenged her.
chastised — "You should never have said that," he chastised her.
chided — "It's getting colder by the minute," she chided.
chimed — "I want to go, too," she chimed.
chirped — "I am so happy I could scream," she chirped.
choked — "He died yesterday," she choked.
chuckled — "I saw how you slid down the hill," he chuckled.
clarified — "That's not what I meant," he clarified.
coaxed — "Come on, kiddo, just one more step," he coaxed.
commanded — "Knock before you enter," he commanded.
commented — "Your drawings are perfect," she commented.
complained — "This is the hottest day of the year," she complained.
conceded — "I give up," she conceded.
confessed — "I really don't like hot pepper," she confessed.
confided — "He's got more upstairs in the dresser drawer," she confided.
confirmed — "You're headed in the right direction," she confirmed.
contributed — "There's nobody else like him," she contributed.
countered — "Then I will go in the opposite direction," she countered.
concluded — "All is well that ends well," he concluded.
confirmed — "That's the correct number," she confirmed.
cooed — "You are the cutest baby I've ever seen," she cooed.
corrected — "It's the next door down," he corrected.
countered — "I'll give you this one for that one," he countered.
cracked — "You're a nasty man," she cracked.
croaked — "I don't feel like listening to this trash," she croaked.
declared — "It's the best I've ever seen," she declared.
deduced,
defended,
demanded,
demurred,
directed,
disagreed,
discouraged,
dismissed,
divulged,
drawled,
echoed,
encouraged,
enthused,
exclaimed,
exaggerated,
exalted,
explained,
finished,
forced,
fretted,
fumed,
gasped,
giggled,
gloated,
graveled,
greeted,
grimaced,
grinned,
groaned,
growled,
grumbled,
grunted,
gushed,
hesitated,
hinted,
hissed,
howled,
inserted,
insisted,
instructed,
interceded,
interjected,
interrupted,
intervened,
intoned,
introduced,
intruded,
jabbed,
joked,
kidded,
lamented,
laughed,
lectured,
lied,
maneuvered,
moaned
mocked,
mused,
noticed,
observed,
offered,
ordered,
persisted,
piped,
pleaded,
pled,
pondered,
pouted,
pressed,
pried,
probed,
proclaimed,
promised,
prompted,
proposed,
protested,
purred,
questioned,
quipped,
rambled,
ranted,
rasped,
reassured,
recovered,
relented,
remarked,
remembered,
reminded,
repeated,
reprimanded,
requested,
retorted,
roared,
scoffed,
scolded,
seethed,
shrieked,
shushed,
sighed,
slurred,
smiled,
snapped,
snarled,
sneered,
snorted,
sobbed,
soothed,
spat,
spouted,
sputtered,
squealed,
squalled,
stalled,
stammered,
stumbled,
suggested,
supplied,
surmised,
sympathized,
taunted,
teased,
threatened,
thundered,
tossed,
tried,
urged,
ventured,
volunteered,
wailed,
warned,
wheezed,
whimpered,
whined

Hope somebody can find this list helpful.

MJ

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I got great news today from Chicken Soup for the Soul.  I write for them frequently, and today received this:


We are excited to let you know your story, Elmo Takes a Nosedive, which appeared in our Angels and Miracles book, will be featured on the Chicken Soup for the Soul podcast.

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There is a theme for each day of the week. Your story will be shared on 10/16/17 and will continue to be available on the app once it airs.

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We hope you will listen and enjoy! We would appreciate it if you would spread the word by passing this e-mail on to your friends and family so we can build an audience.

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Chicken Soup for the Soul

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Apple Jacks -- milked up

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Dill Carver wrote:
Marilyn Johnson wrote:

I love getting reviews, but I hate somebody trying to rewrite every word I've written.  Been there, don't like it. Don't get me wrong - a suggestion here and there is great and appreciated.  But to highlight every single paragraph is ridiculous unless I have asked them to do it in advance."

A nice try MJ, but surely you meant...

I enjoy receiving reviews, but am less than pleased when somebody edits my words into their own. I've experienced it and it irks me. Please don't misunderstand - a few suggestions are greatly appreciated, but to focus intensely upon every paragraph is certainly not called for... unless we have entered in a collaborative development understanding.   

Marilyn Johnson wrote:

Last time it happened to me, I returned the review with this:...

 
..."I certainly don't appreciate all the time you spent grooming my Âne du Cotentin so it sounds like your Baudet du Poitou instead of mine. I am sure it was time-consuming but totally not necessary. Due to the fact that both you and I are here, on this site called The NextBigDonkeySanctuary, probably shows that neither of us has an Andalusian or an Âne grand noir du Berry in the stable...

Nay, I say. 

NAY!

You've got to quit reading my mind, Dill!  How didja know??