Sol, I agree it sounds good on paper, but I'm not quite clear on how this change is going to work. As I understand it, at present each group can decide what "credits" if any are required to post within that group. So if the above change is made does that mean one could post something in a very low credit group and then it is also posted in all other groups for no additional credits even though other groups might require more credits for posting? Inquiring minds want to know. I can see it is going to take some time to get all the wrinkles ironed out. Good luck. Take care. Vern

The credit system is the same for all groups so that won't be a problem. It does mean though that someone could do all of their reviewing in one group and then post their work in another, where they haven't contributed reviews. But that could happen under the current system also.

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(4 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Hi everyone,

I knew when we launched the site that there would be changes after we received your feedback. And we have received a lot of very helpful feedback - thank you!

The first series of changes we are going to make are to the credit system. We are going to do the following:

1. We will change the system so that you are no longer charged points for making changes to your manuscript on the site. The editing system will work the same way as on the old site.

2. The system to post to point groups will change. Right now, if you want to post to two different point groups, you have to pay the cost for each group. After the change, once you have paid points to post content, you will be able to post it to any group, point or non-points. So, point groups will just ensure that all content posted has been posted with points, it doesn't have to be points paid to that particular group.

These changes will most likely happen by the end of this week or early next week. Until then, I recommend the following.

1. If you are starting a group, start it as a non-point required group. Content posted to these groups will stay points if they were posted with points. These groups just do not require points in order to post. In the future, we can change it to Points if you want to require them.

2. If you have a Point group now and want to make it easier to post, let  me know and we can change your group to a non-points required group. Then, we can change it back once the change has gone into effect.

Thanks for your feedback. We are listening.

Sol

When we post a new work going forward, we will have to pay credit points separately for each of the groups we post to which have a credit system, including TNBW Premium, plus credit points to the site as a whole, if we want that post to be part of the credit system when it is reviewed? (And obviously, this is not optional in groups that use a credit system. To post there we must use points.)
But we could still participate in a group that costs points if we want to join for conversation. We just couldn't share work there unless willing to pay for it with credit points accumulated in that specific group. We could share it on the site as a whole though, or in other groups, of we have credit points elsewhere or want to post it without using the credit system in a Free Group.
When we review, we receive separate points earnings for any of the groups we are in where that work has been posted, and each of those groups act as separate sites, yes? But we would not receive points for (for example) The ROMANCE GROUP if we're not a member of that group, even if the work is posted in that group. We'd first have to join that group.
(Is there a way to see what our credit balance is for each group that has a point system? Or is this tallied on our profile somewhere? I see a bulk point accumulation on my HOME PAGE, but I don't understand how this correlates to all the separate groups? I don't see it on the Home Page of the TNBW Premium Group either? It says I have 2.30 points on my Home Page. I don't know what that means.)

This is close but not entirely accurate. The way the system works now, you have a central bank of points for all groups. It is not broken out by group and points earned in one group can be used in another. Even if you post in two different point groups, the content only pays the listed number of points (and not double points). And even if you post it in a Free group, the content will stay pay points.

Looking at it now, I don't think this is actually the ideal system and I am going to simplify it. Once you pay points to post it in one credit group, you can post it in any other credit or free group.

Sol

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(28 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

When I click Read at the top of my homepage, I get a dropdown: Group Content, Connections Content, Free ebooks, In-line Reviews, Published.
If I didn't belong to a group, how would I find something to read?
I'm using IE.

If you decided to delete yourself from every group, then you wouldn't really be part of the site anymore.

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(28 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

But you could do a separate page for each category, yes? You're saying "but there are way more categories now!" Which is what we are saying. smile Much to find, and no central way to find it. We have to go to each group to find new content, and then realize that there's a way there to search by genre. And then THAT's still something we have to repeat by group to find anything.

No, this is not accurate. There is a central way to find it. If you go to the Read button at the top of the page, it shows all content from all of the groups you belong to. That's what Read - Group Content means. It is all of the content posted to the groups you belong to.

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(4 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Sol, I understand your rationale for charging points to edit - to prevent gaming of the system - but I think it should be more reasonable. As it stands, and I think Don Chambers voiced this same concern, an author might tend to not edit if it will cost them points. Then the site manuscript would be unchanged, and more reviews would point out the same issues over and over again - not helpful to the author. How about a safe haven, like, say up to a hundred words of addition without accruing additional cost?

I've discussed this in another thread. We'll be removing any adjustment so that it goes back to the way it was before.

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(28 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Sol, forgive me, but it's still not the same. Wouldn't it be possible to have one page that lists all the new content in the three categories without the book covers, like the old days. Then we could could go to that and more easily look through the pickings. You could have another list with the bookcovers, but I would definitely like a list in the three main categories, condensed, all on one page.

There are no longer just 3 categories. There are novels, books, short stories, poems, scripts, articles, essays, other, and probably more to come. The  old system was nice but it wouldn't work with the expanded format. If you really don't like images we can try and create a version without images at some point.

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(1 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

As much as I was bewildered by the ranking system on the old site, I was inspired when I made a top ten list. Shelves are creative but it feels a bit lacking compared to the ranking system. It was motivating seeing my novels progress. Will there be some form of replacment for feedback?

At some point, we might rank the top Shelved books. But the message we generally received from the community is that we should move away from direct rankings. Up to the community on this.

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(28 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

But it's good to have it.  With  the forums I have to navigate to the group page where I see a list of forums, but not any indication of which have new messages.  I need another click and another wait to get to the forum.  It used to be one master page, which would tell me where I needed to look.  Now it's a click to a page that lists a few forums, but does not let me see or do anything useful with them.  (It might as well not be on that page.)  Then it's a second click and a second page load to get to that subset of forums.

You realize you can access any of your forums in one click from your homepage? On the right-hand column, under the name of the Group is a link that brings you right to each group forum. You do not need to go to the group first. In essence, your homepage is somewhat similar to the page you are asking for but only lists the last three commented threads.

That's correct. It would be expensive to have a credit group but I just wanted to let people know they could do it.

Free groups are easy to leave and join.

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(10 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

No, I don't get a second-page option. I can see the last names on the list if I scroll down the names instead of using the scroller, but I can't click on them. If I try, it sends me back to the first name on the list.

Can you let me know what type of browser you are using and the version number. On IE, you can find that by clicking on the Help menu option.

If you're not using IE, let me know and I can explain how to find the version.

I checked your account out and didn't have any problems so this is probably a browser issue.

Sol

Hi all,

I wanted to make one piece of group information clear. TheNextBigWriter Premium and TheNextBigWriter Free are not mandatory groups. If you want to drop one or both to make room for other groups, you can.

I saw some confusion about that on a forum thread.

Sol

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(10 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Sol, when I scroll down my list of connections in order to send a private message, it stops before reaching the bottom of the list.

It should allow you to see all names. Are they on a second page? If you have enough, you might have to click over to a second page to see them all. Is that the problem?

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(28 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Up at the top of the page is a link called Read. The Read/Groups Content is the same as the Read and Review on the old site. It includes content from all of the Groups you have joined.

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(8 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

I uploaded but didn't publish several chapters of my current wip when this site launched last week--today I went back to publish the first of them and spent twenty minutes navigating through the various portfolio views to try to find them.

Did you search for them in your Portfolio list? You didn't see them in your portfolio? You can search by title.

Two main things are very confusing and/or annoying about the portfolio and publishing....
1. Every time you click on a 'Post Your Writing', it takes you to the list of your projects. I find the one I wish to amend and click it. Instead of taking me into a place where I can choose what I want to do--it automatically takes you to the "update main information" page instead.

Not sure I  understand. It takes you to the first page in the Edit process. From there you can edit the basic settings or go to the Cover - Content - or Publish tab. What page would you like to be brought to instead? What is you want to edit the cover or the basic settings? Are you saying you want it to default to the content page?

In terms of those uploaded chapters, once you find them, all you need to do is go to the Publish page and publish them, if they are unpublished, or make them active. Did you have trouble doing this?

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(217 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

I'm having the same problem with messages. Tried on all my devices

Okay, we have added it to the bug list.

We're going to remove the feature that recalculates points. I want to simplify the system, not make it more complex. If the site doesn't mind having people add tons of content and not paying more points to review, I don't have a problem with it.

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(3 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Are these the books that you added? Did you add any other books?

http://www.thenextbigwriter.com/bookshe … enees-9132

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(3 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

This is a very nice feature.
However, using it seems a bit clunky right now.
On goodreads, you can simply tap the Amazon link to add it, without copying and pasting the ISBN.
Also, there seems to be a glitch - I added books to my recommended shelf, but only five books appear,;when I re-added them, I received a message that they had already been added, but they still don't appear.

Unfortunately, at the moment we don't have access to Amazon's database to pull the data directly from them. As more books are added to the site though, we will build up our own database and this will become easier. If the feature is popular we will spend more time and effort to make it easier.

Will look into the glitch.

Sol

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(217 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

bluetoothwirele left an in-line review to my poem Flight, but I can't see the review. The poem shows 0 in-line reviews but when I go to my "reviews" page I see I have 1in-line review.

I think this is a spam comment. I would just delete it.

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(260 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

You don't even need a link, just one or more options in the user's profile.  I think that would be the more confentional way to do it, anyway, and it could be implemented with a CSS control instead of whole new pages.

We'll create an all link version of the user profile for those that don't like images.

That's my question, too, njc. (Do reviewers get extra when we get charged extra?)

Also, Sol, when you've gotten some rest, can you look into the other issues I mentioned above?

Thanks again, both for answering everyone's questions so promptly, and for creating this shiny new site!!

Yes, reviewers get extra. Although if you post something that is 1,000 words, delete 500 words, and then add 250 words, you will still be charged the value of the existing post, not the 1,000 + 250.

The goal of this was to close the loophole that many writers took advantage of where they could post a work of 500 words and be charged the commensurate points and then add 3,000 words to it without costing any additional points. In this scenario, a reviewer is reading 3,500 words but only getting points for 500. Let me know if you prefer the old system. We can consider reverting to it but note that in the old system reviewers got screwed quite a bit.

That's not what happened when I made two minor changes to two of my chapters. In one, I deleted two words. I was charged 0.22 points. In another, I shortened the Chapter Title by two words. For that, I was charged 0.07 points. Not a big deal in the scheme of things, but it appears we are being charged for ANY edit, regardless if it makes the content shorter or longer, or if we even replace a word with another one.

I just tested, adding and removing content. I was charged when I added extra content but was not charged for deleting content. Please point me to the content where you were charged for deleting content.

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(260 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

There should be a notification. There will be one next week.

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(260 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

There is a bug with seeing review responses so that could be a reason you aren't seeing it. We'll have it fixed next week.