Topic: Still stumbling around

Thanks to all who reviewed my short story "Devoutly to Be Wished." I'm working on replying but am still stumbling around on how to do it exactly. Hopefully I'll get it in the next few days.

One feature I miss from the old site is the ability to see new postings in all categories (novel, short story, poetry) on one page, like the old home page. I feel like I'm doing more hunting and pecking here and feel I'm going to overlook postings of those not on my contact list.

Maybe this will resolve itself as I get used to the new features or perhaps I'm simply overlooking something.

Paul

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"One feature I miss from the old site is the ability to see new postings in all categories (novel, short story, poetry) on one page, like the old home page. I feel like I'm doing more hunting and pecking here and feel I'm going to overlook postings of those not on my contact list."

I agree with this completely!!!!

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Hi Paul. I also miss the feature where we could see all new postings in all categories. It's taking me a while but I think I finally have the hang of replying to reviews.  I have yet to figure out how to submit my new novella chapters to the free group site.  Sigh.  Irene aka kyla

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I haven't been on the site for some time and when I logged in it was like my old house burned down and a whole new house had been built. I feel like I came home in the dark and the power is off. I too am feeling my way through what has happen here. Paul you're not alone. By the way you got a great first name.
Paul McCall

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Love the site! Saw bugs that others have mentioned, but they are minor... so far. I'll stumble around, like everyone else, until the light goes on overhead in those "Ah-Ha!' moments.
Using Web Developer (in firefox), one can see the terrific amount of work that went into this site!

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skeptikoi wrote:

Thanks to all who reviewed my short story "Devoutly to Be Wished." I'm working on replying but am still stumbling around on how to do it exactly. Hopefully I'll get it in the next few days.

One feature I miss from the old site is the ability to see new postings in all categories (novel, short story, poetry) on one page, like the old home page. I feel like I'm doing more hunting and pecking here and feel I'm going to overlook postings of those not on my contact list.

Maybe this will resolve itself as I get used to the new features or perhaps I'm simply overlooking something.

Paul

I, too, agree.  I haven't even been able to find all my group members' and connections' new postings, much less find, and be captivated by, new authors.  It just makes me dizzy, and then my feet go to sleep.  I'm doing more hunting than reading and reviewing!  I do remember stumbling over a button somewhere that said "see all," but I haven't found it again.  Ommm...ommm...   JP

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Up at the top of the page is a link called Read. The Read/Groups Content is the same as the Read and Review on the old site. It includes content from all of the Groups you have joined.

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Ah.  A little hard to find.  Still only 13 items per page, so if I'm away for a few days I have to click again and again.

But it's good to have it.  With  the forums I have to navigate to the group page where I see a list of forums, but not any indication of which have new messages.  I need another click and another wait to get to the forum.  It used to be one master page, which would tell me where I needed to look.  Now it's a click to a page that lists a few forums, but does not let me see or do anything useful with them.  (It might as well not be on that page.)  Then it's a second click and a second page load to get to that subset of forums.

When you're not in the same building as the servers, page loads sometimes take a while.  Sometimes they need to be retried.

Consider this a wish: a page one click away from home that shows you all your forums, with the ones with unread messages at the top.  The restcan be organized by group.

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Question for Sol: When you make something available on 'the internet', does the reader have to click on something acknowledging that the work's copyright is held by the author?  If not, might any work made visible in that way later have its copyright challenged?  Does the site put up any warning to the author?

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njc wrote:

Question for Sol: When you make something available on 'the internet', does the reader have to click on something acknowledging that the work's copyright is held by the author?  If not, might any work made visible in that way later have its copyright challenged?  Does the site put up any warning to the author?

There is a note at the bottom of your posted writing that say copyrighted by you (your username)
Also, you don't have to make your work public to the internet. I have mine available only to my connections and groups. That way everyone who is a member of TNBW Premium can see it as well, but it's not just out there for anyone. (At least that is my understanding of how that works)

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The notice is not the same as the agreement when you join.  Yes, I know that you don't have to open it to the internet, but I see that people are doing it and I'm concerned about whether that's wise.

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But it's good to have it.  With  the forums I have to navigate to the group page where I see a list of forums, but not any indication of which have new messages.  I need another click and another wait to get to the forum.  It used to be one master page, which would tell me where I needed to look.  Now it's a click to a page that lists a few forums, but does not let me see or do anything useful with them.  (It might as well not be on that page.)  Then it's a second click and a second page load to get to that subset of forums.

You realize you can access any of your forums in one click from your homepage? On the right-hand column, under the name of the Group is a link that brings you right to each group forum. You do not need to go to the group first. In essence, your homepage is somewhat similar to the page you are asking for but only lists the last three commented threads.

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Not on the mobile interface, unless I'm confused about which is 'home'.  Which might be.

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"Up at the top of the page is a link called Read. The Read/Groups Content is the same as the Read and Review on the old site. It includes content from all of the Groups you have joined."

Sol, forgive me, but it's still not the same. Wouldn't it be possible to have one page that lists all the new content in the three categories without the book covers, like the old days. Then we could could go to that and more easily look through the pickings. You could have another list with the bookcovers, but I would definitely like a list in the three main categories, condensed, all on one page.

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Sol, forgive me, but it's still not the same. Wouldn't it be possible to have one page that lists all the new content in the three categories without the book covers, like the old days. Then we could could go to that and more easily look through the pickings. You could have another list with the bookcovers, but I would definitely like a list in the three main categories, condensed, all on one page.

There are no longer just 3 categories. There are novels, books, short stories, poems, scripts, articles, essays, other, and probably more to come. The  old system was nice but it wouldn't work with the expanded format. If you really don't like images we can try and create a version without images at some point.

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But you could do a separate page for each category, yes? You're saying "but there are way more categories now!" Which is what we are saying. smile Much to find, and no central way to find it. We have to go to each group to find new content, and then realize that there's a way there to search by genre. And then THAT's still something we have to repeat by group to find anything.

I suggested creating genre home pages for each genre on another page somewhere, but then I felt I was being too critical & deleted it. I do think there needs to be some way to more centrally find new postings -- even if it's a drop-down for categories which leads to a separate page of new listings for each genre.

I COMPLETELY agree that the images for new listings are too much, and a list without them would be preferable. The three latest postings for each of the forums is great, but a page committed to all our forums, with the latest (say) ten listings for each, and a way to click from there directly into the forum would be even better. Less clicking! Would be a wish. smile

Only my thoughts.

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When I click Read at the top of my homepage, I get a dropdown: Group Content, Connections Content, Free ebooks, In-line Reviews, Published.
If I didn't belong to a group, how would I find something to read?
I'm using IE.

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But you could do a separate page for each category, yes? You're saying "but there are way more categories now!" Which is what we are saying. smile Much to find, and no central way to find it. We have to go to each group to find new content, and then realize that there's a way there to search by genre. And then THAT's still something we have to repeat by group to find anything.

No, this is not accurate. There is a central way to find it. If you go to the Read button at the top of the page, it shows all content from all of the groups you belong to. That's what Read - Group Content means. It is all of the content posted to the groups you belong to.

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When I click Read at the top of my homepage, I get a dropdown: Group Content, Connections Content, Free ebooks, In-line Reviews, Published.
If I didn't belong to a group, how would I find something to read?
I'm using IE.

If you decided to delete yourself from every group, then you wouldn't really be part of the site anymore.

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SolN wrote:

But you could do a separate page for each category, yes? You're saying "but there are way more categories now!" Which is what we are saying. smile Much to find, and no central way to find it. We have to go to each group to find new content, and then realize that there's a way there to search by genre. And then THAT's still something we have to repeat by group to find anything.

No, this is not accurate. There is a central way to find it. If you go to the Read button at the top of the page, it shows all content from all of the groups you belong to. That's what Read - Group Content means. It is all of the content posted to the groups you belong to.

Ah! I didn't see that space. We can hunt by genre there over the groups as a whole! That's a find! Sorry for missing that. Nice and accessible on the drop-down menu too. smile But what about site-wide content? Since how many groups we can join is limited to five (I think?) we are potentially missing out on a lot of new content.  Is that just no longer a part of the new site going forward? More focused on groups than the whole? If the latter, it seems (in my humble opinion) that the number of groups we can join should not be limited. Especially now that the point system in groups is changing....

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Is there a way to see all the comments at one time on an in-line review? I'd love to be able to copy the chapter with those showing. It would be so helpful in editing.

Right now, no. But I have added it as a future enhancement.

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Sol,

Favor to ask.  Please increase the clock before the mandatory logout.  I just worked an hour on a really good review, the clock kicked me out and the review was lost as I was forced to log in again.  For writing and editing online, this will cause a lot of lost work.  While taking the time for a decent review, I've just wasted an hour of my life. 

Thanks in advance.  Now I have to go back and do that review again.

A

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Why is there a clock for logout? The old site didn't have that. I agree that it's a pain having to relog in all the time to try and read and leave reviews. If there has to be one, I agree we need to increase the time.

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Favor to ask.  Please increase the clock before the mandatory logout.  I just worked an hour on a really good review, the clock kicked me out and the review was lost as I was forced to log in again.  For writing and editing online, this will cause a lot of lost work.  While taking the time for a decent review, I've just wasted an hour of my life.
Thanks in advance.  Now I have to go back and do that review again.

We are working on it. Hopefully will be resolved in the next day or two. Sorry you lost a review.

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amy s wrote:

Sol,

Favor to ask.  Please increase the clock before the mandatory logout.  I just worked an hour on a really good review, the clock kicked me out and the review was lost as I was forced to log in again.  For writing and editing online, this will cause a lot of lost work.  While taking the time for a decent review, I've just wasted an hour of my life. 

Thanks in advance.  Now I have to go back and do that review again.

A

Aha! So that's one of the problems! Yes, love to see that clock get clocked! However, now that I'm using Chrome, my browser isn't crashing and I can do my work from the laptop.

I don't know how you possibly keep up with all of this, Sol, but I sure appreciate it.