776

(309 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

Ah. Thanks. I forgot you were talking about matter.

777

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I tried coming up with a scene involving all the fired energy somehow quantum tunneling through the shield and quickly realized I don't know enough of the science to know if I'm writing crap or not. Can't have a dialogue (various questions and answers the reader might expect) without more knowledge.

My search today for forms of energy did give me an idea, though, which a lot of soft sci-fi folks ought to be able to understand. I can add an additional form of energy to the story (call it hokey energy for now), which is what the dreadnought fires through the superweapon, but it's very energy-intensive to convert energy output from the dreadnought's reactor into hokey form, which is why the superweapon drains the Hercules so severely of power.

Hokey energy can pass right through an EM energy barrier (shield) unhindered, but the shield causes hokey energy to transform into other forms of energy, 35% of which (an EM frequency?) continues on to strike/damage the ship behind the shield with an incredibly powerful punch, able to smash all the way through a destroyer's 10 or so decks. The remaining 65% would, ideally, transform into another form of energy (visible light?) that I can bleed off harmlessly into space. Assume the shields are projected about one foot out from the hull.

Anyone know if a massive release of visible light against the target hull from a one foot distance could ever cause any kind of damage to the hull, or is it just one big-ass flashlight?

Also, anyone care to suggest a part of the EM spectrum that I can hit the ship with using the remaining 35% of the converted energy. I couldn't find anything online about what part of the spectrum is fired by star destroyers.

Thanks

778

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Kill me now.

I wanted to find a complete list of all forms of energy, but that seems to be an impossible challenge on the internet. Depending on your query, the search results list websites that answer that question seemingly based on the website author's whim (common answers included two (potential and kinetic), 6 or 7, 10, and 13 or 14). Wikipedia (bless their souls) lists 14, which is one of the most complete I could find, and the heading is just right for the table, which is described as "some forms of energy" (emphasis mine).

For laughs, I asked Copilot for a list, and it gave me an incomplete one. I had to tell it several times that the list was incomplete. It did eventually go off and look for more, returning with an apology and further entries to the list. I can't wait until more AI-driven web pages make a total mess out of all search engines. Imagine trying to do school homework in the near future with all that AI garbage coming up in the search results.

The most complete list I could get came from Copilot, which the AI clearly took from multiple sources describing different kinds of things and just threw them together. Total crap. The AI can't distinguish things that don't belong in the same list. Part of that, though, is there doesn't seem to be much standardization in terminology. Some sites call them types of energy, others use forms of energy, and one or two used classes of energy. The line breaks were added by me. I think the first seven belong together, as do the next two. The rest I'm not sure.

Kdot, when you posted earlier that all the types are known, were you referring to the first seven, the basic two, or something else?

Mechanical Energy
Thermal Energy
Nuclear Energy
Chemical Energy
Electromagnetic Energy
Sonic Energy
Gravitational Energy

Kinetic Energy
Potential Energy

Electrical Energy
Elastic Energy
Ionization Energy
Radiant Energy
Motion Energy
Magnetic Energy
Electrochemical Energy
Chemiluminescence
Internal Energy
Geothermal Energy
Hydropower

779

(309 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

Quantum tunneling through the shield is perfect. Thanks for that.

Data_Babble=ON

Now what would cause the blast from the shield defier (the superweapon) to tunnel en masse through a defensive shield, rather than simply slamming into the shield like ordinary weapons fire would? For story purposes, the defier itself requires a huge quantity of energy to fire (e.g., perhaps 100 times as much as a heavy supernova cannon). That quantity of energy makes it dangerous for the firing ship to shoot since it takes every spare bit of energy a dreadnought dare redirect into the weapon, including most of the energy from the ship's neutrino reactor running at 15-20% beyond its safety limit.

However, hitting St. James's destroyers with that much tunneling energy passing unimpeded through their shields would most likely destroy the ships in one shot each. The other battles in the story require many supernova weapon strikes against a single location on the target to knock out that location's shield and breach the outer, gorillium-plated hull (say, 10 hits from a supernova). The superweapon I'm trying to replace (the mattergy cannons) can punch all the way through the hull of an unshielded ship and out the other side, but it requires 2-3 mattery shots to destroy a ship.

So, 10 supernova strikes to breach the the hull, maybe 15 strikes to punch through the inside of the fairly thin "blade-like" main hull, and at most 10 more to punch through the far side of the outer hull. So, for the mattergy cannons to do the same thing requires that weapon to fire the equivalent of 35 supernovas at one point on the hull, whereas the shield defier requires about 3 times that to fire. The question then is, what do I do with the rest of the energy that goes into firing the defier, where only 1/3 reaches the target (equivalent of 100 supernovas to fire the defier - 35 supernovas to punch completely through a ship's hull, which is the story requirement = 65 supernovas worth of energy that needs to go somewhere else.)

I could see the excess, focused energy causing the tunneling effect needed to pass through St. James's shields, but 65 supernovas worth? Seems like a lot, but I'll roll with it. After all, the defier is somehow causing the fabric of spacetime to change such that mass quantum tunneling of energy through energy occurs at that location. Convenient side effect of firing such a powerful weapon, huh? :-)

Data_Babble=OFF

So, does it pass the smell test? Or am I serving up garum sociorum, a Roman-era delicacy made from rotting fish?

Kdot wrote:

She's obviously curious why I'm just standing there staring, so I venture "Are you (X)?"
She replies, "No, that's my mom."

Yup, saw that coming. :-)

781

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Thanks, NJC. I'll look it up in the morning.

I assume they saw each other more than once. Or that at least he was keeping his eye on her and hubby. After all, these were the first humans. Everyone would have been curious, and Satan would have been jealous of their special relationship with God.

Also, she still looks exactly as she did back then. I'm assuming her glorified body looked as she did when she was created. Otherwise, you would have a lot of glorified geriatrics in wheelchairs.

Better yet, remove Satan's comment to Romano at the end of book one that God's minions were forbidden from interfering. However, then I'd have to find a reason why Phanuel, the Archangel of Judgement, doesn't blow Connor's cover. Maybe Phanuel simply chose on his own not to interfere, knowing that God and Satan were in the middle of a final challenge. Moses and Elijah are both supernatural humans (they "could" be the Two Witnesses from Revelation), and they suspect something is up with Connor, but they're not entirely sure what until the end of book one. Eve is supernatural as well since the only way she could return to Earth is as a glorified human. Since I need them all to interfere to some extent, I can't allow Satan to prevent interference by humans. Maybe God insists "only angels" won't interfere, or he sneaks that detail past Satan by volunteering that angels will not interfere until Judgement Day.

One minor issue is that Revelation's Two Witnesses in Catholicism represent the Church's witness to the world of Christ's divinity. There are no supernatural beings involved, except in some Protestant denominations. I added them to the book to poke a little fun at the Left Behind series, which tries to interpret everything in Revelation literally, except when it's impossible to do so (e.g., the dragon sweeping stars from the heavens). So, Moses and Elijah are just a couple of human kooks who have special powers, not the real Moses and Elijah returned to Earth. I may use them to represent a common Protestant interpretation of Revelation throughout the books, although I'll have to hint more clearly that that's what they are. I'm thinking at some point in book one I should have them appear, sitting on a bench and reading either a Left Behind book or a Protestant Bible, or one of each.

784

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I don't think such a weapon satisfies my story requirements. Firing the weapon just a few times drains the ship of energy, including all the reserves stored in atreidite. To continue firing, you have to be willing to drive your neutrino reactor beyond its safety limits. I'm talking about a reactor big enough and powerful enough to power the needs of an entire dreadnought (the Hercules).

The weapon I've currently defined requires that the Hercules somehow converts the energy into some state/phase that allows the fired weapon's quanta of energy to pass through the shields and thereby slam St. James's destroyers as if they had no shields, pretty much crippling all three ships with just a couple of shots each.

785

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Kdot wrote:
Dirk B. wrote:

Naturally, this would cause hard sci-fi fans to vomit, but my target audience is space opera fans.

Don't target hard sci-fi... this is not that story. Space opera is your market.

Hard sci-fi is 100% about the explainable. Everything else is magic. A story gets very little wriggle room outside the unexplainable.

Story: We change matter-energy to a previously unknown state
Hard-sci-fi: What's the name of the state?
Story: A new state. One that fits [X] requirement.
Hard-sci-fi: But [X] is impossible according to our current understanding of the universe
Story: Extrapolate: Some new rule current rules cannot explain
Hard-sci-fi: Well, current rules cannot explain it. It's magic

That's why I said my target audience is space opera fans. Right now, I'm just looking for a place to slip in/bolt on property X to superweapons fire that allows it to pass through shields but not matter. It's a replacement for mattergy, which I always knew I would toss from the story once I came up with something better. It'll only be used in chapter one. I just need to be careful that my cacas doesn't outright contradict well-known facts about physics.

I definitely should have taken physics in high school and university, though. I could have done a minor in physics or even math, although I don't recall if I even knew about minors back then.

786

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Actually, I was referring to energy, not matter. "State" is probably a bad term for energy. Since the fired energy beams are just photons, I'm hoping to add some non-existent "phase" that energy can be in, which has yet to be discovered. I'm going to have to dig into photons, though, to see where I might be able to add some B.S. property or phase to it. My previous writeup had the fired energy come and go from our dimension based on something the weapon did to the energy.

787

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After way too many hours wasted on the opening battle's superweapon, I decided the weapon can alter the fired photons in some way (e.g., forcing them into some previously unknown state) which can pass around other electromagnetic particles unimpeded (e.g., shields), but are stopped by matter (e.g., a ship's hull), causing the latter to go boom! Am I done?

Of course, this assumes that sci-fi weapon blasts are simply a lot of photons.

Can anyone tell me if this impossible weapon is even remotely close to real physics? Naturally, this would cause hard sci-fi fans to vomit, but my target audience is space opera fans.

It's an interesting idea. But excluding women from the definition of minions seems a little too obvious a mistake for one of the greatest (former) angels to make. A better way to do it may be to give Eve instructions that she is to do everything Satan asks (i.e., "not interfere", as Satan demanded). So, she can be there as long as she does what he tells her. She wouldn't agree to kill someone, but God already knows that about Eve, without even looking forward in time. So, He's free to tell her, do exactly what you're told.

SPOILER ALERT: Just so I can stop dancing around this topic, Connor's soul is that of Adam, and his companion is the glorified form of Eve.

I'd love to place Eve into Connor's inner circle, there to watch over him and to simultaneously work against the Unholy Trinity while pretending to be part of the conspiracy all along. That would give her a great role. She could wear a Mission Impossible-style mask that looks like Dr. Lombardi for the decade+ that she's known De Rosa and been part of his conspiracy; she'd also have to disguise her voice, but she's had a few thousand years to practice that. The reason Satan doesn't recognize he's dealing with a glorified individual in a mask is because Eve/Lombardi is able to hide the glorified element of herself using limited powers Eve received when she was glorified. Sort of like Emperor Palpatine was able to stand before Jedi and hide his true nature.

Since Satan told Romano at the end of book one that God's minions were forbidden from interfering as part of the rules agreed to between God and Satan, I'll need to figure out an exception for her that doesn't break the rules.

The original problem is the lack of strong female characters in my Connor series, except of course for Connor's mother, Detective Campagna. She's the Princess Leia of my trilogy (ie, no other major female character in the whole trilogy).

The rest of what's written above is just me brainstorming/writing up potential solutions to the problem.

Kdot wrote:

I seem to have a recurring problem with the Connor series in that there simply aren't enough strong female characters.

Given the massive headaches you already have to deal with, this one may be something you simply lean into / roll with.

That's what Tylenol is for. smile

I think the best solution is for Connor's former companion to come to Earth in her glorified body. While there is nothing in Scripture that says humans would ever do that, it would be less offensive than adding yet another reincarnated being.

If I were to make it Dr. Lombardi, then she's in the story from book one, and I can make her a more prominent character, dropping hints that she's more than she seems. Although it would be odd that she and Satan didn't recognize each other as supernatural beings, especially since she would look the same as she did when she lived millennia ago (except young again).

The other alternative is to introduce a new character from book two on. Although I wouldn't reveal her true identity until the end of book two or somewhere in book three, she could be there to assist Connor in some TBD way. He wouldn't fully recognize her from his former life because his soul doesn't fully awaken until the end of book two.

I also need to find a meaty role for Romano and Antonio. I may get rid of Antonio permanently after book one.

peterwilliam is another. Has a post in premium too.

Quandary. I seem to have a recurring problem with the Connor series in that there simply aren't enough strong female characters. The biblical figure who serves as Connor's soul, had a female companion, and both played important roles in the events of the distant past. Since the male figure returns as Connor, I considered giving him a girlfriend, who happens to be his former companion. I didn't care for that much since it's a huge coincidence (although God could have arranged it that way), and it would add yet another reincarnation to the story, which further deviates from Catholicism. And I can't really think of an important role for her. She'd be worse than useless if I simply shoehorn her into the story without a real purpose of her own.

Connor does have a girlfriend early in book two, but Connor keeps her around primarily to annoy Satan (since Connor is supposed to be Christ). Made worse by the fact that she's into goth, with an outrageous look. And they have sex regularly. And Connor is intentionally not very discreet about her. Tsk. Tsk. I don't see turning Ms. Goth into an important character since one of her purposes is for De Rosa to send her away, to be replaced later by someone even worse.

I do have Dr. Lombardi, who headed the Papal Research team in book one, who I could bring back and increase her importance. In the next draft of book one, I can leave her as is but make her the head of the demon-hunting team at the end, replacing De Rosa, after his true identity is revealed. Still nowhere near as important as Campagna.

Also, I have yet to think of an important role for Father Romano.

And I definitely have to bring Connor's biblical companion into the story. She was present back then and equally responsible for the disaster that occurred. To avoid another reincarnation, I could bring her into the story in her "glorified" body, which (some?) Christians believe we'll all get.

Returning characters include:

Connor
Maria Campana
Satan/De Rosa
Father (Bishop) Romano (exact role is TBD)
Pope-in-Exile Nnamani
Antonio the ghost (his exact role is TBD)
Moses & Elijah (their exact roles are TBD)
Dr. Lombardi

EDIT: One possibility is that the female biblical figure is already on Earth in book one. In fact, she could be in her glorified form as Dr. Lombardi, which would have been what she's looked like thousands of years ago. I would then either keep Connor from seeing/encountering her so he doesn't recognize her from the past, or I could rely on the fact that Connor's soul still hasn't fully awakened.

alexwatson too.

Ditto for Marry09

George wrote:

I might be wrong, but I imagine that most people would say - Satan has sex with a woman through a zombie man, therefore evilness is passed to the kid. Especially, if the kid is the AC. Are you over thinking this? The spiritual side of Connor should be powerful to manipulate the physical world.

I should have my head examined. Having spent at least 1.5 pages of this thread arguing why DNA -based powers are the best solution for Connor, I keep thinking about George's suggested alternative above.

What if I simply ignore the fact that there is no physical element (DNA) to explain Connor's powers but rely instead on the heinousness of his conception to transfer some of Satan's evil and powers spiritually? The evil act is Satan using a dead body to rape Campagna, thereby making Connor at least spiritually descended from Satan, even though Connor contains no actual demon from his conception.

Advantages:
- Connor is more demon like, rather than a human with modified DNA for his powers
- Connor truly inherits something from Satan, making Connor at least partially evil, which is a part of his nature he then needs to overcome as well
- Connor would have as part of his corrupted nature the "element" that makes him the Antichrist (a human with a partially evil spirit)

Issues:
- this is a handwavy solution that makes no effort to explain how some of Satan's evil can pass from Satan through Campana into Connor
- what does it mean for a human to be spiritually descended from Satan? Does this mean Connor's spirit somehow becomes demonic, even though Connor is no actual demon; his DNA is human as should be his spirit
- if I consider the heinousness of the act something that corrupts Connor's spirit in the womb, I then have to do one of the following:
1) I have to explain the difference between a soul and a human spirit; Satan corrupts Connor's spirit but not his soul, two concepts that many Christians, as far as I can tell, generally don't distinguish; most times only the soul is mentioned, although technically we have both, at least in Catholicism; or,
2) I can tie the corruption to Connor's soul and not even mention his spirit; the tricky part of this approach is that Connor's soul is already serving multiple purposes in the story; it's actually the soul of an ancient being, the soul is reshaped into two distinct personalities (Connor vs the biblical character) during the course of the story, it's what allows Satan to transfer his powers to Connor via the soul, and Connor's powers are then driven entirely by his soul.
- Problem is, how does the transfer of evil affect the biblical figure who shares his soul with Connor? This same question applies even if I place the evil into Connor's spirit rather than into his soul; also, is Connor's spirit the same as the biblical figure's spirit?
- there would be no ability by Satan to manipulate Connor's DNA to imprint into Connor a strong bond/dependence upon Satan.

Just the process of writing this up shows how many issues/questions have to be addressed. Trying to distinguish soul from spirit is a complexity I prefer not to add to the story. And having the soul serve all of the aforementioned purposes is "purpose overload" in my opinion.

I think I'm still much better off with a DNA based solution. It's far less complex. George, in case you're wondering if all of the above issues really need answers, they do since many of those issues will definitely arise in the story I have planned. And the answers have to make sense and be consistent with answers to other issues. To me, the complexity outweighs the advantages.

George wrote:

I might be wrong, but I imagine that most people would say - Satan has sex with a woman through a zombie man, therefore evilness is passed to the kid. Especially, if the kid is the AC. Are you over thinking this? The spiritual side of Connor should be powerful to manipulate the physical world.

And of course! This is just brainstorming!

I forgot to answer this. I'm not overthinking this. It was an easy decision and a simple, elegant, and complete solution. I chose human DNA as the way to pass on superpowers to Connor. If I had made it spiritual powers, then how would that have worked (see my previous posts where I discuss other possible options and the challenges with them)?

My way ensures that Connor gets his powers from Satan, is also human, and is not inherently evil. The fact that Satan used his powers to animate a zombie and rape Campagna, inseminating her with zombie DNA, does not in any way explain how evilness could have passed to Connor. Answer: It didn't. He's human, he sins, he's under Satan's powerful influence as a child, but he is not intrinsically evil. Any human in Connor's place would have almost certainly turned evil, but Connor is partially protected by his ancient soul, which has the benefit of having lived in Old Testament times and has a strong sense of right and wrong, even while only just beginning to reawaken.

Since Satan altered the DNA in the zombie sperm, I choose to refer to Connor as part demon and as having inherited his powers from Satan. Technically, he "inherited" nothing from Satan in the way we think of inherited, not even anything demon like. But it's as close as a demon can come in my story to creating a human offspring.

Although there are a number of ways to pick apart my solution as not being biblical, my story is on a different timeline that does not require me to arrive at the same outcome as our version of Revelation. Within my story's universe, it holds together with all the other elements of my universe. And if offers a simple explanation of how all this is possible without handwaving.

This is the best I can come to explaining my reasoning to you, George. If you don't buy it, we'll have to agree to disagree. And there's plenty more to disagree on, including how a soul could have multiple personalities and reincarnation of the ancient biblical figure.

In case anyone is interested, the identity of the biblical figure is given in the final chapter of the first draft. Can you find it? I practically hit the reader over the head with it, although readers won't realize that until they learn Connor is a reincarnated being.

I never said he was free from sin. He sins just by being part of the conspiracy. I said he wasn't inherently evil from birth. He's a human like any other, but with supernatural powers woven into his DNA by Satan, who also wasn't evil from the start. However, Satan's manipulations of Connor's DNA included imprinting Connor with a very powerful (and unnatural) bond toward Satan, which Satan then exploited, trying to mold Connor in Satan's image, at a time when Satan had removed Connor fom his family, who would've given him a loving upbringing with a totally different set of values. Connor has to overcome all that if he's going to destroy Satan, a being he loves because of the imprinting and because Satan was the only person who ever told Connor he loved him.

In the case of Connor and the biblical figure (bf), I think both have agency, although there are clashes. Connor dominates in book one, begins to lose a little control of decisions at the end of book one (failed to smother the pope), continues to lose control as bf awakens throughout book two, a crisis point is reached that probably requires both to settle their differences and work together (details TBD), after which a blended whole can move forward. I had been thinking that each would continue to exist, though, with one or the other yielding control as dictated by the scene/plot, especially when certain unique strengths are called for that only one of them has. Naturally, if there is a switch in the personality in control, I would need to make that obvious to the reader.

In order for them to reach a compromise, I should probably have a scene where they talk to each other directly (via thoughts), although it seems kind of weird at the moment. The other option is to not show it at all and merely have one of the personalities report the agreed upon compromise. I lean toward the former since I think the conversation would be interesting to both read and write. I'll have to write it to see what works best.

Regardless of the exact details, I definitely need to have some form of clash play out since there are two personalities in one soul, where one dominates at the beginning while the other awakens and fights for some level of control.

I don't think readers will side with bf since Connor is the only personality present in book one, and is the only apparent personality throughout most of book two (who looks to be having growing mental health issues, presumed by other characters to be the result of Satan's manipulations of an otherwise decent kid). I probably won't reveal the presence (and identity) of bf until the end of book two. Not sure yet.

Good grief, there is a lot to think through.

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