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(1 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

Welcome back! I'm going to throw my hat in the ring 3 times: The Hunting Grounds, Daughter of Aithne, and The Sword of Shadows. I don't expect to win (never do), but I think it's a good opportunity to solicit as much feedback as possible on those crucial opening chapters. Strongest Start was what brought me into TNBW in the first place, and I haven't missed a round of it since.

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(4 replies, posted in Fantasy World Builders)

Hi Rhiannon! I'm a little behind on my review quota right now, but I'll definitely put this on the list & get to it soon.

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(4 replies, posted in Fantasy World Builders)

Hi Rhiannon! Goodness, I should probably take this message down; I've actually, for the moment, decided to drop the prologue altogether for this novel, and simply start with chapter one. So, for the moment, the prologue's not available (though much of the rest of the novel is...) Sorry about that! If I change my mind going forward, I'll let you & everyone else know.

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(5 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

How exciting, Janet! Congratulations. smile

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(5 replies, posted in Romance Inc.)

Well said, everything you write here.

The nice thing about fiction is that it's fiction. smile We can move our characters through the landscape of their worlds without having to worry about legalities of contracts and the muddied waters of morning-after regrets. ("Feminists" being a very broad term, I could actually point to some feminists who have argued our obsession with defining the legal limits of consent vs. rape, which has led to extremes such as signing contracts before getting into bed, is influenced more by our puritan culture than any woman-centered understanding of the nature of sexual violence.) I don't think bad sex should qualify as rape. (Though it might be kind of fun, if we could take a man to court for being inept in bed...That'd give Judge Judy something to talk about!) The fact that this sort of thing is happening is a reflection, I think, of our failure at teaching young people about the realities of sex. It's not always good, and often it's downright awkward. As you point out, if the couple doesn't take the time to establish some real intimacy - getting to know each other and each other's bodies before going all the way - sex is pretty well guaranteed to be unsatisfying. At least for the woman. Can't speak for the men.

The difficulty of rape in real life is that most often, no one else is there when it happens. So one has to choose whose word to trust, and since the burden usually falls on the victim to prove the guilt of her attacker, it makes the legal aspects very sticky, and the emotional aspects downright awful.

But our characters are never alone when they have sex; the author is there, and the readers are there. We walk with them through the whole development of the relationship. As authors, we can present the situation in such a way that it is clear to everyone whether the sex is consensual or not.

Now that I think about it, this is actually a good opportunity, to address through our fiction some of those muddy waters. Who knows? We might even help a reader or two understand better what it means to actually know someone before going to bed with them, and how to better recognize and express what she wants in the moment she wants it. That'd be kind of cool.

Delusions of grandeur, perhaps. But you never know. smile

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(5 replies, posted in Romance Inc.)

I know that in campus environments, the most recent policy approach has been "Yes means Yes." Having a clear affirmative on the part of both parties is the best way to avoid any misunderstandings. Under the "no means no" criteria, for example, silence or drunkenness could be misinterpreted as a "yes", because after all, he or she didn't ever actually _say_ no.

There are still a lot of gray areas here, but from a writer's perspective, I think the important thing is that the characters in question are given a moment when they conscientiously decide "This is what _I_ want." I don't see any issues with being persuaded into the moment (if we don't allow persuasion, all seduction would be off limits!), although coercion, in my mind, would move one into a rape category. Presumably, coercion would not be a question of "what I want" but rather of "what I feel like I have to do, or else..."

The implications of a fragile mental state are, in my mind, context dependent. Honestly, sometimes if you're in a fragile mental state, the best thing that can happen is a good bout of sex! But there are obviously other situations where fragile mental states can lead to situations of coercion. Again, I would say these have to be considered on a case-by-case basis, and going back, perhaps, to that criteria of what the character wants in that moment for his or herself. Also, is there the presence of a power differential in a relationship? (e.g., professor with student, boss with employee, etc.) If there is, that can also open the door to situations of coercion.

Good question!! And complex. I know I haven't covered all the bases here. I'm interested to see what others have to say.

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(7 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

amy s wrote:

Anyone have any advice on a good program for setting up a website?

Not an expert on this, but I've found wordpress very user friendly, and there are a variety of templates to choose from, so you're pretty likely to find one that suits your needs.

If you're looking to build a site from scratch, I wouldn't know what to recommend. I'm a template person myself; couldn't manage a web site without them.

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(7 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

Great advice here. I've tried various social media networks. My favorite is Facebook; it's the place where I feel I can engage with people the most. Twitter seems good for getting the word out, and for finding useful tips on writing and publishing, but not so much for actually interacting. Twitter does host some fun pitch contests, PittMad and SFFPit are two that I've participated in. These can get you connected to agents, authors, and other writers as well.

My blog is hosted on wordpress, which is nicely set up for making new connections across the board.

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(2 replies, posted in Romance Inc.)

Happy New Year to you, too! I took a very long break over the holidays, and am looking forward to seeing everyone's stories, and writing a bit more myself, in 2016.

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(12 replies, posted in Romance Inc.)

I'm with KHippolite. I've never had any patience with books that don't grab me from the get go, though I usually allow up to 3 chapters before deciding whether or not to toss the novel.

Even so, I do run into the occasionally novel that starts out well and then suddenly takes a dive half ways through, or (even worse for me) totally cops out at the end. Maybe you're just having a run of bad luck, or maybe you are becoming a more critical reader as a result of fine-tuning your "editor's eye" on tNBW. Either, I wouldn't worry about it. Time spent reading a bad novel is time wasted, imho. Life's too short for that. Hopefully, you'll find something you can sink into and enjoy again soon.

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(1 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Basic)

Sounds like fun! I've sent you an email & look forward to your reply. smile

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(1,528 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

njc wrote:

Note to Karin Rita Gastreich:

In a review you called out

As Merran practiced her lessons with her father, her mother was in the kitchen, past the chimney that served the kitchen and the upper floors, past the stair and cupboards and storeroom on the other side.

Melayne had gotten a bargain

On the text marked, you asked me to put the mother's name, Melayne, in after 'mother' as an apposative (as I just did earlier in the sentence).  After considering this serveral times, I believe it would be worse than what I have now.

Consider the text from 'Merran practiced' through 'mother'.  There are nine words and six references to persons:

  • Merran

  • her (lessons)

  • her (father)

  • (her) father

  • her

  • (her) mother

The appositive would be a seventh personal referencee in ten words.  Moreover, it would be a new name at the end of that long string, and the reader would have to slow to learn it..

'Melayne' appears at the front of the next paragraph, and it's the first personal reference after the mention of Merran's mother.  If the description of the building's layout did not intervene, it would be the next word after 'kitchen'.

If I seek any change, it will be to move that text, or some of it, somewhere else.

Hi njc -
This is totally your decision. Don't ever feel like you have to justify to me when you choose not to follow one of my suggestions. (Lord, if I spent time justifying every suggestion I rejected from all my reviewers, I'd never get a manuscript done!) Everything I write is for you to take or leave as you choose. YOU are the author. You know your story, and your preferences for that story's delivery, better than anyone. If what I suggest helps, use it. If not, throw it out and don't look back.

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(24 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

Ceridwen wrote:

Hey, girl: I'll give chapter 1 of Eolyn a look this week. My focus will be tightening, as you already mentioned. Just to let you know to expect something by way of suggestions/review, just not fast.

Thanks, Ceridwen! There is also a prologue, if you have a chance. I feel like several reviewers have either skipped or missed that. Thanks in advance for your help. No rush at all on this. Hope you're in for a good week!

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(5 replies, posted in Romance Inc.)

PByrd wrote:

Let's twist this to what do women notice first about a guy. Here's my summary:

1. looks (dress sense, grooming, body, skin, hair, eyes) - yes, women take in all this at once
2. smile (teeth),
3. demeanor (mannerisms),
4. accent (voice),
5. posture,
6. smell,
7. who he's with

http://www.uncoverdiscover.com/facts/th … pression1/
http://thoughtcatalog.com/alice-l-carte … -admit-to/

I have to admit, that's pretty much my list. Grooming is absolutely paramount for me.

I'd also add what he talks about. And whether he listens when others are talking. I guess you could sum all that up in 'the way he interacts with the people around him'. Or does that all come down to demeanor?

Hey, while we're on the subject, those of you who have used Wattpad, what's been your experience there? I've been thinking about trying it out, whether or not I do this contest.

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(24 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

For those of you interested in how it all began, I've begun posting the opening chapters of the second edition of EOLYN onto tNBW, in preparation for rebooting the series early next year. Here's the link:

http://www.thenextbigwriter.com/posting … tion-21560

EOLYN is the first book in the Eolyn Chronicles series, though it was originally written as a stand-alone novel with no conscientious intention of writing any sequels. DAUGHTER OF AITHNE, which I've been workshopping on tnbw for the last several months, is the third book in the series. Both the first edition of EOLYN and the middle book, HIGH MAGA, are currently available from Hadley Rille Books, on Amazon, Barnes&Noble, etc.

I don't plan any major changes for the second edition of EOLYN, but I am switching around the opening chapters a bit, and trying to tighten up things in general. As always, I'd appreciate a pair of fresh eyes. And also, it occurred to me that some of my regular reviewers might like to learn more of the backstory of the main characters. Thanks in advance to anyone who has a chance to look at this.

Pura Vida.

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(5 replies, posted in Romance Inc.)

Maybe times have changed. My grandfather used to say the first thing he noticed about my grandmother was her legs. I always got a kick out of that. They met in the 1920s, mind you. And Omi was definitely a flapper. wink

I have a WIP that might work for this, but I don't think it'd be done by the Sept 21 deadline. Do they run this context periodically? I might try it on the next round. Thanks so much for the heads up.

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(83 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

The prophecy in which their presumed destiny was revealed might well be wrong. Whether destiny can be changed by actions in the present depends on the rules of the world your characters live in.

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(10 replies, posted in Romance Inc.)

I've got nothing to add here, except I agree with everything already said. No cat fights over guys. Women fighting each other for other reasons and/or "higher" motives is okay, especially if women in combat is part of the culture (as often happens in fantasy). But no guy is worth going to blows over with another woman, imho. If I were to hit a chapter with that sort of fight, I would put the book down and not pick it up again.

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(8 replies, posted in Romance Inc.)

Janet R - I don't write science fiction, though I may try my hand at it someday. There's a lot of overlap, though, between science fiction and fantasy; maybe not in subject matter, but in approaches to world building & story telling. And of course, the audience. Many readers of sci fi are also avid readers of fantasy.

The Campbell Conference, which is the one I went to, is hosted every year by the Center for the Study of Science Fiction at the University of Kansas. They are very much focused on science fiction, but they welcome fantasy types as well. It's a small conference; pretty much everyone who attends is an author or teacher/professor or both. It's a lot of fun, especially because it's so small, and everyone is very friendly. The conference includes a mass autograph session at the KU book store that is well attended; I even managed to sell a few books, which was nice.

Truth is, I don't read a whole lot of science fiction, but Kage Baker's "In the Garden of Iden" might qualify as science fiction-romance crossover. With a heavy dose of historical fiction as well. Actually, having had a look at your work, I think you might like it. 

Janet T - So exciting that you're in the final countdown to release! Which novel is coming out in September?

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(8 replies, posted in Romance Inc.)

Wow, Janet, you have been busy! Best of luck with your new home.

I attended a science fiction conference in Lawrence, KS, this weekend; about 45 min from my home in Kansas City, MO. It was a small conference with a lot of great authors. We had some very interesting round table discussions. And, of course, I added several books to my TBR list. Now I'm back home relaxing & trying to catch up with everyone that I owe reviews to on tNBW. Think I'll cozy up with a book and read a little before calling it a night.

Tomorrow I have my weekly flamenco class, which I'm really looking forward to. Olé!

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(15 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Congratulations! Well done, all of you. smile

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(24 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

njc wrote:

Even in =A song of Ice and Fire=, you can say of an event or an act "This is good," or "Tnis is bad."  Often it doesn't work out that way, but ylu can see it should have.

I definitely disagree with this. It's true of some events in the series, but not all. Martin is a master of moral ambiguity. The more amoral (="bad") a character is, the better off they are in his world. Which would make "bad" the new "good" in Westeros.

At any rate, I am not trying to recreate Martin's world. (Way too dark for me!) There is "good" and "bad" in Daughter of Aithne -- MUCH more so than in ASoIaF, but these don't always align with the moral compass of our world. What's important is how each individual character perceives a "good" act versus a "bad" act, and how these perceptions evolve as the central conflict plays out.

I've made use of all your feedback to rework the prologue, and am very happy with the result. Thanks again!

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(24 replies, posted in Fantasy/Magic & Sci-Fi)

njc wrote:

Moral indeterminacy: I guess it comes down to the reader's ability to decide, rightly or wrongly, whether s/he is with or against the protagonist.  I'm not saying that can't change in the course of the story (it can) but you--or at least I--need to make that decision.

We have a person making a vicious attack as a snake--but in the course of a rescue.  Only--it's not a rescue.  It's a kidnapping.  I should change my mind twice, or at least have the sense that I need to learn more.  I don't get that, for whatever reason.

Postscript:  Maybe my sense of being morally adrift would be answered by making Eliasara's reactions stronger and more prominent:  Rescue?  No, this is not what I want!  Add a tinge of moral horror to her distrust.

YMMV and IMO, fershure.

Yes, I definitely understood what you meant by this in your critique (or at least, I think I did).

I think, rather than making Eliasara's reaction stronger, moving deeper into Ghemena's pov would be the answer. I am also, in the rewrite, giving more of a voice to Ireny and Nicola. This will make it clear (I hope) that they firmly believe they are doing the right thing, and call into question whether Eliasara's doubt is justified. Knowing how the story develops later, I think that's the safer way to go. Also, if I make Eliasara's reaction stronger with no counterbalance for the magas, my sense is that this would increase the "moral indeterminancy" rather than decrease it.

Thanks again for all your input. It's been very very helpful!