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(2 replies, posted in Cop Shop)

THE DEPRESSION-ERA BAD GUYS
They grew up in extreme poverty and were criminals before they could vote; some were in prison as teenagers; most were dead before they reached age thirty. Hard times bred hard criminals. Who were they?

1.    Was the mother of several criminals who ran a gang during the "public enemy era". She traveled with her sons during their criminal careers. J. Edgar Hoover described her as "the most vicious, dangerous and resourceful criminal brain of the last decade". Those who knew her insisted she had no criminal role and "couldn't plan breakfast."

2.    After he was sent to prison at age 19, he used a lead pipe to crush the skull of another inmate who had repeatedly assaulted him sexually. He emerged from prison a hardened and bitter criminal. A fellow inmate said he watched him "change from a schoolboy to a rattlesnake." According to John Neal Phillips, his goal in life was not to gain fame or fortune from robbing banks, but to seek revenge against the Texas prison system for the abuses he suffered while serving time.

3.    Though she was present at a hundred or more felonies, she was not the machine gun-wielding killer portrayed in the media of the day. A fellow gang member later testified he was unsure whether he had ever seen her fire at officers. Her reputation as a cigar-smoking gun moll grew out of a playful snapshot found by police at an abandoned hideout. While she did chain smoke Camel cigarettes, she was not a cigar smoker.

4.    He was accused of Crimes against America and yet his downfall was a sad day in America. He was known for his constant run-ins with police and violent bank robberies. He was often viewed favorably by Oklahoma locals, who called him "the Robin Hood of the Cookson Hills." He also received another nickname, from a girlfriend at a Kansas City boardinghouse, though he came to hate the moniker. After being accused of taking part in the Kansas City Massacre, he was gunned down and killed by FBI agents.

5.    The most notorious of all, he courted publicity, and the media of his time ran exaggerated accounts of his bravado and colorful personality. He operated with a group of men who, amongst other activities, robbed twenty-four banks and four police stations. He escaped from jail twice; he was also charged with, but never convicted of, the murder of a police officer who shot him in his bullet-proof vest during a shootout, prompting him to return fire. It was his only homicide charge. Police and federal agents were informed of his whereabouts, and moved to arrest him as he exited the Biograph Theater. He attempted to flee but was shot four times and killed.

6.    He went by a name given to him due to his youthful appearance and small stature. He was responsible for the murder of several people, and killed more FBI agents in the line of duty than any other person — three. He was shot by FBI agents and died after a short but furious gun battle often termed The Battle of Barrington.

7.    He was an American gangster during the prohibition era. His nickname came from his favorite weapon, a Thompson submachine gun. His most famous crime was the kidnapping of oil tycoon and businessman Charles Urschel in July 1933 for which he and his gang earned $200,000 ransom.

8.    He was an American physician and pharmacist who provided medical care to underworld figures during the "Public enemy"-era of the 1930s. His most famous clients were John Dillinger and Homer Van Meter who hired him to perform plastic surgery on them. The surgery was a flop. [Plastic surgery—in the 1930s?]

9.    She was a Depression-era outlaw and partner of Volney Davis during the early 1930s. Although known to the press as the "Kissing Bandit" for her habit of kissing male robbery victims, she was known in the underworld as "Rabbits" for her skill as an escape artist. [Remember Patricia Arquette as the “Kissing Bandit” in the movie “Holes”?]

10.    He was a prolific U.S. bank robber. During his forty-year criminal career he stole an estimated $2 million, and eventually spent more than half of his adult life in prison. After his release, he spoke about prison reform and consulted with banks on anti-robbery techniques. [When asked why he robbed banks, he answered, “Because that’s where the money is.”]

Real video from back in the day at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Face_Nelson

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(0 replies, posted in Mama, Trains and Pickup Trucks)

Welcome to the place where you can publish your own country and western song lyrics. There's no requirement, except that you adhere to the down-home, red neck, shit-kickin' theme for all songs nostalgic, sentimental and just generally maudlin. Oh, and if it rhymes, has a good beat and makes sense all at the same time, why, Bubba--yer a perfessional!

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(2 replies, posted in Cop Shop)

Thanks, John! I found her at amazon, and I can read for free. Looks like a good resource. JP

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_ … ined%2C181

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(1 replies, posted in Mama, Trains and Pickup Trucks)

How sad--I loved that song. That was a time when country crossed over into the pop culture, and everybody could hear it. JP

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(0 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Being fairly new to the literature scene, I haven't figured out whether this is a joke or not. The prize is a mug? The Guardian's list of seventy new novels is available for voting. Seventy good books. Boy, do I have a lot of reading to do!
http://www.theguardian.com/books/series … oker-prize

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(28 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

I am so sorry. Max. We all cry with you.  JP

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(2 replies, posted in Cop Shop)

I've received a blank space a couple of times, and just figured the reviewer changed his/her mind. As  Janet says, I didn't think it was cause for concern. At least, now I know what happened. JP

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(2 replies, posted in Mama, Trains and Pickup Trucks)

Congratulations, BT! It couldn't happen to a better writer!  JP

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(1 replies, posted in Cop Shop)

How could it have happened? Who could have done it? Was it really murder? See the top ten.
What's that? You don't agree? Let's hear from you, and get the discussion going! 
JP
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/j … an-mckinty

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(342 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Having two problems;
1) I set the search criteria in reviews to pull up all regular reviews of chapter 1. I read and apply a review, then try to use the back arrow to return to my specialized list, but the screen goes gray. Back at Square 1, I have to reenter the reviews page, reset the criteria, and pull up the list again. I'm trying to read many reviews. This could take forever! I tried it without the special sort, and it doesn't happen--just goes back normally.

2) In weeding out my old messages, I had so many, I chose to delete whole pages at a time. The same thing happened, only scarier. The entire screen went gray, with no tnbw headings at all. I had to pull up another tab on the browser and reenter the tnbw site before I could do anything.

So, what's with the blank screens?  JP

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(1 replies, posted in Cop Shop)

We'll miss you, dags. Come back when things are settled, hopefully soon. We'll still be here.  JP

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(28 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Thanks, Nicholas. The contract I read was the one for Kindle Scout. Sorry, I thought Kindle was Amazon. So many things to choose from! JP

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(28 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Is createspace the only amazon entry? It seems like there are several. I get interested in Amazon, but then I read that contract with the self-renewing clause and the conditions under which an author can withdraw from a contract, and it looks scary.

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(21 replies, posted in Young Adult & New Adult)

Susan Stec wrote:

I have also seen authors try to pass something off as something it's not. This is never a good idea. They do it with covers too. It just comes back to bite them in the ass as bad reviews. I try to lay it out like it is.
Yeah, Dead Girls is not enough to be NA, but too much to be Teen or even YA. I agree with a Mature YA tag, but is there a tag like that on a Amazon?

Right. Is the NA designation recognized universally?

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(212 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Mike Roberson wrote:

I wish I could make changes to my text while viewing an inline-review.  This may be available and I just don't know it. If so please teach me.  When I see and nit or a comment that I agree with and want to change in my text, it would be so nice to be able to edit right there in the review.  Thanks for any help you can give.
Mike

Mike--I just pull up a new tab on the browser and go on site to my portfolio, then pull up the content I want to edit, so I can read the review on one tab, and make corrections on the other. That way, I can flip back and forth between tabs instead on backing up page by page from review to edit. The only thing you have to remember is to save your changes at the bottom of the edit page when you're done, or they don't take and all your changes are undone. You lose your work if you leave the edit page without saving. I know, STST (same thing, said twice) but I forget from time to time and have to start over. That hurts if you've gone though more than one review. 

I don't know if there's a more efficient way to do this. Maybe someone else does.  JP smile

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(23 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Vern--don't get mad. I asked because I thought it would be a diversion to post some of our thought in the form of lyrics, so I started Mama, Trains and Pickup Trucks group. We aren't aiming for high poetry, but the exercise of controlling word number, meter and rhyme along with meaning works to discipline an author, just as writing a drabble does. If we can have fun while we stretch our writing muscles, we might as well, don't you think? I'd prefer not to charge for the use of the gym, though. If there's no such thing as posting for free, then the cause is lost before we begin, but if there is, we'd like to try it. I don't know, what do others think about having P.E. (poetry education) on the site?

Loving niece trumps silly exchange every time.

My apologies, too, Janet.

JP

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(23 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Vern, are you saying that it costs more to post a poem than prose? and that the reason is to keep a balanced activity? and you are comparing that to artificial stabilization of currency? If I post a poem and label it "Short story," does that circumvent the artificially elevated rates? If, as I have seen, one posts a deconstructed poem (presented in prose form) and calls it "short story," will that cheat the system? And if we can cheat the system, was there ever any real reason to impose such a system?

And finally, should I get the status of Mama, Trains and Pickup Trucks changed to no points? It was meant to provide a source of amusement, not rip off hard-working writers who just want to take a little break and have fun.

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(32 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

I do my best to make my stories easy to read, because ultimately, the readers will be paying for the books I write, and if they can't make it through my book, they won't buy again.
Have a heart--help out the reviewers.
1) use correct spelling--don't rely on spell check; the dang machine spells okay, but it spells whatever damn word it chooses.
2) check what the word you're using really means--you might have been given a word that sounds like the one you really wanted
3) if you don't have a degree in writing, study--there are tons of things you don't know about your own language
4) ask for specific feedback on your writing--we don't know if you want to hear "that's lovely, dear" or "you're head-hopping again."
Do these things, and reviewers might come back to read more of your stories.

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(32 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

vern wrote:

Not the first time and pretty sure it won't be the last, but I'm going against the grain here. I just don't see adding extra points for the later chapters making any significant difference. If someone is reviewing the story merely for points, probably not the best confidence builder. Extra points for later chapters would make no difference to me; if I'm going to review it, then I'll review it regardless.

I treat reciprocal expectation the same way; if I enjoy the work it will make no difference if the author reciprocates or not. I've reviewed several with little or no reciprocation and I've been reviewed by several with little reciprocation - I'm talking entire novels here, not just a few chapters or a short story.

If I were going to pay beyond the predetermined point value, I'd simply hire a professional editor after sampling some of their work to make sure it is what I would expect for the outlay. That is not to say some on this site would not do just as good a job, but very few would if we look at it realistically. And if someone meets your criteria on site you could at least suggest a private arrangement for payment in whatever currency was mutually satisfactory - if points were all they wanted, you could simply let them do drive-by reviews ( to include copy and paste) of everything you write without even reading and stock up the credits until the payment is fulfilled. Just paying someone points from a built up stash is not going to entice very many great reviewers imo. Most of the great reviewers have (or will shortly) accumulated more points than they will probably ever need. And as said, cash could be worked out privately with anyone willing and acceptable.

From a logical standpoint, what would be the difference in actual reviews received if more points were added for later chapters. That would not mean they are going to magically read all your chapters any more than they already are; after all, everybody else is getting those extra points for their chapters too and any mass change in reading patterns is highly unlikely. Everything would still be relatively the same.  I don't see any advantage in the suggested changes, but that is just my opinion. Take care. Vern

Yes, it's true--we did have a star-rating system for reviewers, and it wound up being a courtesy to give everybody five stars (the maximum). The gesture had no more meaning than the "how are you?" we use as a conditioned greeting. The system was being phased out when I joined the site, but I do recall being thrilled with all the encouraging reviews of my first chapters, and really bummed when they dwindled down to one or two per chapter. It's the nature of the system we have and the human beings that we are to begin with enthusiasm and gradually lose that as other things in our lives distract us.

I can't think of any reward/ incentive system that will stop our being human.

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(32 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

max keanu wrote:

Endurance point, no, real money!

I'm with you, Max. lol

I thought the point value increases as the chapter numbers get higher. Was that just my wishful thinking? If it does, that is a loyalty bonus. And if it's so, it needs to be publicized.

Charles_F_Bell wrote:
j p lundstrom wrote:
Charles_F_Bell wrote:

Well then, critiquing a blank page suits your purpose perfectly. No spelling, grammar,or punctuation errors there.

Bad ideas can only be expressed poorly. This is more obvious in non-fiction than fiction but for the latter it is true but usually hidden, perhaps even unknowingly by the author who may be "educated" in bad ideas and does not know better.

One could not have made Herr Hitler's writing better, and it is certainly a moral error to critique Mein Kampf only on the basis of his turgid and impenetrable style, and Steinbeck's content problem is an issue even if expression of that content into language by grammar, spelling and punctuation is not.

Charles,
I think you misunderstood. dags wasn't proposing to criticize the subject of another's work. Such a critique, without helpful suggestions, was one item in a list of reviews she finds less than useful. There's no need to jump on everyone who just might not agree with you.

We do agree that even authors who have a wonderful command of language can write crap, and that no amount of skill will turn crappy ideas into beautiful writing. (Same thing, said twice--what do they call that?)

I do have a question, though: what was Steinbeck's content problem?

Affectionately, JP

Rather than go into the weeds on what could be an essay ("How Hitler and Steinbeck are the Same"), I'll stick to the issue that Blocking a reviewer because of his review for the reason he is obnoxious has flipside that suggests that the author/Blocker is insensitive to criticism on the basis of disagreement on content, and I think polite criticism of content is a valid criticism, even without particular authoring suggestions, and it is rude, unhelpful, and anti-social to block someone on that basis. Or for that matter, to block anyone for any reason other than truly obnoxious behavior.

Disagree or agree as far as that goes?

Yes, there is a difference between :  "How dare you claim kittens are cute and cuddly!"  and "How dare you suggest genocide!"

What do you think of blocking someone with whom you have had no interaction at all -- as some sort of pre-emptive strike? And yes, that has happened.  Or blocking without explanation on what was so wrong with the one and only review?  And yes, that has happened.

Okay, I'll forget about Steinbeck, except to answer your "How is a raven like a writing-desk?" comparison of Hitler and Steinbeck by saying they both influenced public opinion and, ultimately, government policy. I haven't read Steinbeck for decades, though, and I might find myself in total agreement if I went back and read his work again. But I probably won't--I like to do a thing once, and then move on.

You have a point about the arbitrary blocking of a reviewer simply because he/she gave you an unwelcome review. However, some of us are easily scared off when we see two people squaring off (albeit figuratively) and throwing verbal punches in the forum. Others of us just don't want to deal with people who spend their time in such a pursuit. There are justifiable reasons to block such folks.

Why are you comparing kittens and genocide?

Charles_F_Bell wrote:
dagnee wrote:

Their opinion of your subject, but nothing about about how to make your writing better.

Well then, critiquing a blank page suits your purpose perfectly. No spelling, grammar,or punctuation errors there.

Bad ideas can only be expressed poorly. This is more obvious in non-fiction than fiction but for the latter it is true but usually hidden, perhaps even unknowingly by the author who may be "educated" in bad ideas and does not know better.

One could not have made Herr Hitler's writing better, and it is certainly a moral error to critique Mein Kampf only on the basis of his turgid and impenetrable style, and Steinbeck's content problem is an issue even if expression of that content into language by grammar, spelling and punctuation is not.

Charles,
I think you misunderstood. dags wasn't proposing to criticize the subject of another's work. Such a critique, without helpful suggestions, was one item in a list of reviews she finds less than useful. There's no need to jump on everyone who just might not agree with you.

We do agree that even authors who have a wonderful command of language can write crap, and that no amount of skill will turn crappy ideas into beautiful writing. (Same thing, said twice--what do they call that?)

I do have a question, though: what was Steinbeck's content problem?

Affectionately, JP

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(5 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

Love those graphs!
They forgot when you give someone the gift of a book and they "never got around to reading it," gave it to someone else, or worse yet, they leave it somewhere and it gets hopelessly damaged.

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(4 replies, posted in TheNextBigWriter Premium)

I found a link to the writing lessons from the old site. It's still there, and it includes crazeesharon and her lessons. I forgot how much the old site had to offer in instruction. Everything was there for us to use and discuss.
Writing Tips from crazeesharon
Now available via: http://old.thenextbigwriter.com/forum/index.php